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stoney917

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Damn prop things are lookin great...R those asteroids are from the original beans... theres a sweet mango pheno n grape phenos to be found to... my spicy haze pheno came down 20 wks... hope ur hazey girl is more like the ziggy cut..
 

milkyjoe

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Milky,

I'm not entirely against inorganic methods, just prefer organic. I've been trying to build microbe populations on the leaf surface in an attempt at competitive exclusion against botrytis, but after the last two years I'm starting to think that its not worth the time. I'm definitely in the camp that maintaining good health is the best approach now. Hypercap seems like a really good 1/2 punch. Are you combining it with the other products you're using?

The formula I have settled on for foliar per gallon is:
2 ounces hypercap
1 ounce of photomag, sea stim, sea shield, sea stim, pht k
1/2 ounce micropak
3 grams albion ca
1/4 tsp micro 5000
5 drops pepzyme

The trick to beating mold (although your enviroment is much more coducive than mine) is to: a) build a really thick phospholipid layer (energy) b) build complex carbon chains (enzymes...so ultra trace minerals) and c) maintain cellular ph as close to 6.4 as you can.

Hypercap definetly helps with 2 of those.

I have not looked at leaf microbes. But I am providing support for the microbes weekly.

Oh yea...the silica and oils in sea shield also help
 
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Sub one of the sea shields for crop? Curious what the EC of your solution is, I'll find out in an hour…

The feel of the foliage after using these products is weird. More durable definitely. Calcium, from what I've read, will also help lay down more pectin. Something fungi have to try and enzymatically poke a hole through if they want to infect.
 

milkyjoe

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One theory would be the phospholipid layer protects the pectate layer. Ie if it is thick and tough enough fungi cannot penetrate to the pectate. Thst waxy look is sn indicator. It takes a lot of energy to get to thst point though.
 

Hemphrey Bogart

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Just wanted to stop in and thank all you guys for helping me help my plants this year. The growth looks awesome this year so far.

Milky, did I read in here that you foliar all the way through flower? If I'm remembering wrong, please forgive me...

I'm just curious what you foliar with while the plants are in flower...and aren't you worried about mold?

Thanks again for all your help guys!

HB.
 

milkyjoe

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Just wanted to stop in and thank all you guys for helping me help my plants this year. The growth looks awesome this year so far.

Milky, did I read in here that you foliar all the way through flower? If I'm remembering wrong, please forgive me...

I'm just curious what you foliar with while the plants are in flower...and aren't you worried about mold?

Thanks again for all your help guys!

HB.

Within a week of harvest. It is the mineral nutrtion that protects plants from insects and disease...at least imo. When you stop feeding plants the minerals get scavenged from the leaf for the flower. When that hsppens ph in the sap drops and disease becomes inevitable...you are racing the clock at that point.

You are also starving the essential oils and causing them to oxidize.

Taste...well imo all you got to do is convert nitrates to complete proteins and taste improves. Taste test a high mineral low nitratr veggie vs low mineral veggies sometime
 

Bulldog420

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You guys with your tree shots got me thinking. Ordered up a drone that holds a go pro, and has GPS return if you loose your signal. Should be epic.
 

Gry

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How odd, I am on page 685 of 688 pages and can find no other posts. Not seen that on here before, but I do not think I have ever been on a thread that was this long.
 

Madjag

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It's a long story but a year or two ago the Mods erased several pages that had a lot of conflict and name-calling going on.

Apparently the forum software doesn't correct itself nor did any of the Moderators.
 

cheezhead

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HOLY COW

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watering every day, approx 20-40 gallons in my mounds. this heat is about to get serious time to bust out the sprinklers again and make it rain!

WOW! That's some watering! I'm waaay under watering my ladies...

If you don't mind me asking...Yes4Prop215 when you are "just watering" do you give it right out of the spigot and give em plain non pH'd water? I couldn't imagine adding macro/micro nutes using that much water everytime, I'd think it'd break the bank!
 
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It's looked that way to me for at least a couple years with those spare invisible pages.
 

Dreambig

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This is from July 5th. The two blue dream 5gs are growing fast and didn't trigger like I thought they would. All the crosses I got from rare dankness are growing quite well also. Starkiller (skywalker x rd2),
501 og (skywalker x rd1), Leroy tk (triangle x rd2), scotts og ( triangle x rd1)
I think I'm gonna run out of room in here, the plants are on 8 foot centers 300 gallon pots. If I could redo it I'd have 500-600 gallon mounds or pots and give the plants 12-15 foot centers. You guys out in calli are lucky. Here in CO we have to give em cover due to weather and shorter season. But I'm not complaining I love this place.


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Dreambig

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I thought I would be able to pm and or leave visitor messages when I hit 50 post but I can or atleast I haven't figured out how to so if you see this message I growmyown the material I used for the greenhouse was solarsoft 85 panels for the roof and about halfway down the sides, then I used clear super strong woven poly for the bottom half of the sides. I also put up wire on the bottom half to keep most of the critters out. I've got two vents, 2 sides that roll up, and 2 exhaust fans. When it's 95 outside I'm hittin 105-110 inside if there's no breeze.
 

somoz

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gotta figure out a way to top dress all this dusty stuff without it sending plumes of dried slaughterhouse blood everywhere. YUCK…

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mix the desired amount of your dry amendments into either castings/compost/manure/etc and topdress with that

makes for an easier process and cleaner boogers
 
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