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The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

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Dreambig

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Hey backyard farmer I don't know if you stated this already or not but does your soil have nutes in it? Is the growth that you show in your pictures all from using the aea products or does your soil have a good part to do with it? Are you running a control plant ? Or doing anything that would show the difference between what a plant would look like without the aea products?
 

Backyard Farmer

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Dreambig , I do have a control row.

It's not in a good spot to take pictures of and post on ICMag, I can promise you, the difference is drastic.

My soil is balanced to Albrecht ratios.

The growth is due to the Biological Advantage ... You're not going to see them move like this with out all the bells and whistles.
 

milkyjoe

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I will absolutely second the aea/tainio stuff being amazing. 25% yield difference for me indoors and really different quality. I do not have an outdoor control because I did not want to waste a spot.

I too shoot for albrecht ratios in the soil. I did not add extra N ferts and have had to add very little in addition to the biology. Dont want to sound like a commercial or knock any other product. And I don't want to claim to be a better grower either...no way am I. But the stuff flat works
 

Backyard Farmer

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We did a randomized block design to determine the control.


The indoor results are ridiculous


Milky I did a 2oz kelp 1 oz PhotoMag at day 49 , after going off the kelp Via foliar since day 21....I was at 1oz indoor. I tried 2oz per your recommendation in the black out early on, but noticed the same stacking from 1 oz versus 2. But 2 oz later in flower with PhotoMag seems like it's going to give them a nice boost to finish on
 

Smoke&toke8

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Things are off to a great start, As is everybody's garden I see.
Heres some nice shots of the morning
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reppin2c

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SmokeNtoke those are some beasts. How big did you go in? Are you worried about your plants running out of mojo by finish?
 

Smoke&toke8

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SmokeNtoke those are some beasts. How big did you go in? Are you worried about your plants running out of mojo by finish?

I had them in 10gal pots they were about 4ft tall when the went in.
they will grow just as strong all the way till the end of oct. should just about touch one another by the time there ready.
 

Bo Hasset

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So, is the Sea-Crop available from Biodiversity the same Sea-Crop that gets so much attention in this thread? I found a stash of these sea-Crop bottle that I got as promotional freebie while I was rummaging around my box of samples AKA "the box full of shit I like to test out/fuck up a single plant". I did a quick search through this thread to find the Sea-Crop manufacturer's name and couldn't find it, and a Google search gives me multiple product listings. In other words, I'm cornfused.

http://www.gobiodiversity.com/products/index.html

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Awaiting an order of sea crop from seacrop.com and sea 90 off amazon to see what it's all about. Should be able to foliar my next dep with it, running the same high quality, low-yield genetics and hoping to push their numbers and quality further. Peyote, peyote mangobiche, and peyote taskenti.

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Bo Hasset

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Took a dab and coughed so hard I ended up in a tree....

West Coast DOG

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Nice, BYF. Very nice.

I have 1 8-ft tall "mother" (started in December from clone and took all of 25 cuts from it for cloning) in a light dep that is about 5 weeks from finishing and it is just exploding daily.

I gave away a gaggle of clones and had a good chunk eaten by my cat, but the 4 that I have in 300 gallon smarties are some of the fastest vegging plants I've ever seen. I put most everything in on May 27/28th and then June 1/2. There is so little information I could find on the DOG that I was hesitant to give it the 4 spots in my 24 plant garden that I did give it, but now I'm kicking myself daily for not doing 1/2 the garden.

On one row I have 4 pots with 2 Bubbas on the far left and then 2 DOGs on the far right. I took the cuttings for the Bubba on 2/1 and they were growing away in 10-gallon pots by the 14th. I started them earlier than anything else b/c IME they've just always been the slowest to veg in the garden. They were 4 feet by the time I put them in their final resting spot. The 4 DOGs were 1ft clones at most from my greenhouse w/ supp lighting when I put them in. The DOGs were a mere 5 inches shorter than the Bubbas as of this morning... and I'm a fan of the crimp, super crop and/or weaving branches thru trellis which normally slows vertical growth a bit.

I'm fucking loving this plant and have it pegged to be my top DOG from this garden (pun intended).
 

TheRealHash

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So, is the Sea-Crop available from Biodiversity the same Sea-Crop that gets so much attention in this thread? I found a stash of these sea-Crop bottle that I got as promotional freebie while I was rummaging around my box of samples AKA "the box full of shit I like to test out/fuck up a single plant". I did a quick search through this thread to find the Sea-Crop manufacturer's name and couldn't find it, and a Google search gives me multiple product listings. In other words, I'm cornfused.

http://www.gobiodiversity.com/products/index.html

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It's the same stuff
 

FatherEarth

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bulk soil, build your own...

bulk soil, build your own...

I know its a bit late for this season but I was searching the net and stumbled upon a potential soil resource. Serving Medford, Ashland and looks like Arcata as well.. Buy a premix or build your own soil. They sound like it might be a nice outfit.


Has anyone used these folks before?

http://oregonsoils.com/


Build your own get a quote here:
http://customquote.bulksoils.com/


FE
 

milkyjoe

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FE...I used a similar company called build a soil. He was willing to send produts like compost to logan labs along with a few test blends so we could hit albrecht numbers. It would be good if you could talk him into that.

Once upon a time coot told me oregon was known for high Mg. It will come through in compost so be damn careful about any mag adds. Also ask about neem meal and crab shell...both excellent with that compost. If I remember right coot goes 1/3 peat, compost and pumice. 7 lbs neem, crab and kelp. Also a bunch of basalt or that glacial dust...I am thinking like 128 cups. Others have found 10 pounds of gypsum useful. All comes down to how good that compost is. His choice of quality amendments was nothing short of genius though...big respect to coot
 

Mcgruff

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First off BYF don't ever compare a grower like yourself to TomHill or Fillthepotmore those guys are both geniuses that have taught me and so many others here so much. They introduced these products to the community and then moved on. You're a joke.

Every other post you make is just a list of all the AEA crap you sprayed on your plants that day and how much they loved it "Yo I mixed a bunch of Sea Stim, Photomag, and man juice and fed my plants they totally love it." The difference between introducing a product and being a salesman for a fertilizer company is extensive. You have crossed the line. You might as well work for Advanced Nutrients you could be the next Urban Grower!!

Nobody wants BYF to be part of this thread anymore, all he does is hawk the crap that AEA gives him for free to sell their product. Everybody who actually posts pictures and tries to help people out is leaving. Is there a mod or someone that wants to address this. Or maybe he could just go home with his tail between his legs??
 

yortbogey

To Have More ... Desire Less
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EVERYone.... is entitled to there opinion.... it's called freedom of speech...

IF U do not agree, or would rather not see.....
all U do is go too U'r profile setup and place anyone that is bothering U or posting comments U disagree with....on IGNORE...

then U never have too hear things U don't believe in or want to hear about....

that being said it is a small mind that can't embrace change....
BUT it also is a PITA for sum-one to constantly blow smoke ....

all this being taken into consideration..... plz play nice
 

Bo Hasset

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It's 8:30 AM here in California, where I assume an overwhelming percentage of this thread's regulars reside, and instead of tending to plants/gardens people are slinging their dicks around and shit-talking to someone on the other side of a computer screen they are likely to never meet. Use whatever products you deem fit to grow what you need to... or don't. This forum is for an exchange of ideas and opinions. Not pissing and moaning because someone swears by AEA, Taino, GH, Fox Farm or Afghani Goat Piss (don't knock it... shit is FIRE). I only came inside to see if my question from last night while i wait for a 300-gallon cube to fill up from my well.

Meanwhile, I'm none the wiser to why Sea-Crop seems to be branded by several different companies. Could someone explain this to me like I'm a 5-year w/ down syndrome? I'd like a solid answer before I go spraying away with half the Pacific Ocean in my backpack sprayer. And if anyone tells me UTFSE I'm coming to your garden and shitting on your most prized plant.

Thank you, and this post was brought to you by:

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redlaser

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I'd say the reason you see Sea-Crop made by others is that there is no patent on it yet. Not sure it's truly unique anyway as there are similar products by other companies. 12% salt in seacrop seems excessive, but it's something I haven't tried and others have good results with. Honestly not knocking Seacrop, but trace elements are trace elements unless they are chelated, and where they come from doesn't matter as long as they are present.
 
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Luther Burbank

Things do seem to have gotten off its normal pace. There has been too much dick waving going. Tom left for his own reasons, but he's been back on a few times this summer.
 
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