What in your opinion is the BEST bloom boost currently available?

[acridlab]

Top shooter with the rest of the h&g package is awesome, best all around growth I've ever gotten. But after searching for a few years now, I swear nothing has quite touched the results I get with big bud overdrive bud candy trio..
It sucks cuz I do not like the company at all, but Damn those goof balls can make some nutes..

 

[SativaBreather]

never bothered with bud candy but most my best results have come with BB and OD

 

[Fields~of~Green]

How do you use the bb od SB

Is it the liquid big bud you use?

 

[theherbalizor]

I used to use Big bud then follow onto top shooter.

I personally prefer Superior Potash to Big bud these days.

I remember using the full AN line up for a 4 x 600w grow. And at cost / trade price it cost me more that £300 more than the full H&G range. Yield was ok but I found flavours to be a little on the dull side.

 

[SativaBreather]

How do you use the bb od SB

Is it the liquid big bud you use?

liquid yes mate
BB wks 2,3,4,
OD wks 5,6,7

I used to use Big bud then follow onto top shooter.

I personally prefer Superior Potash to Big bud these days.

I remember using the full AN line up for a 4 x 600w grow. And at cost / trade price it cost me more that £300 more than the full H&G range. Yield was ok but I found flavours to be a little on the dull side.

I wouldnt use the full range, the full range comprises a load of shit you dont need

I like carboload, voodoo juice, b52, BB and OD

Not a fan of top shooter, used it on last crop thought quality was reduced
lower buds were fatter but there was less resin production and as I have said previously it extends flowering time which is not what I want

 

[zamzia]

liquid yes mate
BB wks 2,3,4,
OD wks 5,6,7



I wouldnt use the full range, the full range comprises a load of shit you dont need

I like carboload, voodoo juice, b52, BB and OD

Not a fan of top shooter, used it on last crop thought quality was reduced
lower buds were fatter but there was less resin production and as I have said previously it extends flowering time which is not what I want

I was going to ask the same. Thanks

 

[KONY]

Doesnt really matter what brand or product you use.... cannabis requires n,p,k, ca/mg and few micros.
There is no magical product to boost bloom production. You need happy plants for that.

 

[Fields~of~Green]

The headmasta and superior potash used to be good but they changed the formula I think as it used to be 1ml per ltr
Think they have been watered down now anyone using them at the moment ?

 

[TheRealHash]

High P bat guano

 

[theherbalizor]

The headmasta and superior potash used to be good but they changed the formula I think as it used to be 1ml per ltr
Think they have been watered down now anyone using them at the moment ?

I still use them. No change in dilution rates, 1ml per litre. Seen no change in finished product.

 

[Dank Demon]

I still use them. No change in dilution rates, 1ml per litre. Seen no change in finished product.

I still use them as well in the cupboard and I am still happy with them

 

[acridlab]

Doesnt really matter what brand or product you use.... cannabis requires n,p,k, ca/mg and few micros.
There is no magical product to boost bloom production. You need happy plants for that.

I used to believe that,, but after trying many nute lines, I know for a fact that u get way different results. Flavors aromas growth,, u name it..they can have identical npk.. but the buds will not b identical.. it's all in the quality of the npk that the companies use,, and how they are cheated or not, etc..

 

[Fields~of~Green]

Most important

Climate then good healthy clones followed by nutes

Climate plays a massive part in yield and health of the plants

 

[papaduc]

Just trying to find out which 1 product adds most yield and enhances buds the most...

Liberate yourself from questions like this. Or waste your time going round in circles.

Besides the fact that nobody knows and every opinion is an anecdote, the minerals are all the same. Yes one company can bullshit you about how their particular nutrient works better because... but they use the same basic cheap elements and mark them up massively with promises of massive harvests.

The bottom line and irrefutable truth is that if any of these bullshit products actually worked anywhere near as well as they're said to do, even average growers doing average grows would be hitting numbers people not using them wouldn't be able to achieve. But they're not. Why?

If any technology or breakthrough in plant feeding had happened it'd break ground on what can realistically be achieved above and beyond what you will with a basic bloom feed and pk adjustment. It hasn't.

The only reason I found this thread is because I'm just shopping now and I'm on the green's website looking at some bits and bobs, and this Plant Magic platinum stuff is on the front page so I had a look to see what it was. It's 3-13-26 NPK with a lot of sulfur and amino acids and humates... on the face of it it looks like potassium sulphate and potassium phosphate with some extras...

not a bad blend it looks like.
Until you see the fucking price!

£90 a liter!?! What? What the fuck?

There is nothing, I guarantee you, nothing, whatsoever, in that bottle which justifies even a quarter of that price. It's a company which, like AN, I won't support because rather than bucking the trend for taking basic minerals and putting on huge mark ups to rip off people who should, but don't have no idea what basic ingredients make these things up, have bought right into it and are now maybe right there with AN in being the very worst at it.

To put it into perspective, the Sulfur, potassium and phosphate sources in that £90 bottle of overpriced shit can be had for less than £5 for the three combined, and that's based on the highest grade minerals. While the humic, otherwise known as "increased uptake magic" - the purpose of which, btw, is very dubious to say the least in a hydro chemical feeding process - can be had in a tub big enough to dilute and put into well over 100x1L bottles at the concentrations they'll be using, for maybe another tenner on top.

There's only one thing you need to experiment with when it comes to flower boosting, and that's what ratios of NPK work best. You'll only find that out by trialling them alongside each other on the same grow and seeing the results.

Outside of that you're venturing into the effect of growth regulators and hormones. And then the trial is the same vs a control group.

 

[SativaBreather]

I get what ya saying and Im gonna reserve judgement till I've tried it properly myself, but I will say all my mates are going mental for it and it is very concentrated rangin from 0.4-0.7ml/l so it'll last a long time

my mates are saying insane resin production and increased weight, but as I say Im gonna give it a go. Bit unfair to compare PM to AN though, also where you getting the NPK ratios from? I was told directly by Olly at PM its a 9/18

 

[nigel420]

liquid yes mate
BB wks 2,3,4,
OD wks 5,6,7

How much per mil mate?

 

[papaduc]

it is very concentrated rangin from 0.4-0.7ml/l so it'll last a long time

The numbers tell you how concentrated it is, and it nowhere near justifies that price. I see that pm do that with quite a few of their products and I think they use gimmicks as part of the sales pitch when charging such an extortionate amount for something which shouldn't cost any more than a tenner at most - that they're more concentrated than other brands so it's worth it.

my mates are saying insane resin production and increased weight

I've read a lot of testimonials from people who use pm coco who rave on it even though it even though their plants are showing signs of n toxicity. When I pointed it out and explained to them what it was, they understood.

Like reviews on anything, people have to know what they're looking for.

The thing is, even if they are getting increased weights or better looking product, then it equals more people in the camp who say double the potash vs phosphate + sulfur is a better bloom booster than just pk13/14...

So either make it yourself for almost nothing, or buy a cheaper version. It really is a piece of piss to replicate the same ratio yourself for a couple of quid a liter.

It's the main reason they say there's all sorts of other shit in there, because then it gives that mystery element to it... R&D.... scientific research... vitamins and amino acids.. because you can't quantify that and there is no legal obligation for them to tell you what, if anything, there is in there or how/where it is sourced. It all adds to the placebo factor.

If they just put the main basic ingredients on the side, they would never be able to answer the obvious question anyone with a bit of nous should ask: "why so feckin much"?

Bit unfair to compare PM to AN though

Not when they're charging £90 a liter for cheap minerals it's not mate. If they didn't do that I wouldn't compare them negatively with anyone and I wouldn't even be saying this. I've got nothing against anyone except companies who put such a massive markup on something so cheap

also where you getting the NPK ratios from? I was told directly by Olly at PM its a 9/18

From the green's website mate.

 

[SativaBreather]

liquid yes mate
BB wks 2,3,4,
OD wks 5,6,7

How much per mil mate?

2ml/l

 

[SativaBreather]

The numbers tell you how concentrated it is, and it nowhere near justifies that price. I see that pm do that with quite a few of their products and I think they use gimmicks as part of the sales pitch when charging such an extortionate amount for something which shouldn't cost any more than a tenner at most - that they're more concentrated than other brands so it's worth it.



I've read a lot of testimonials from people who use pm coco who rave on it even though it even though their plants are showing signs of n toxicity. When I pointed it out and explained to them what it was, they understood.

Like reviews on anything, people have to know what they're looking for.

The thing is, even if they are getting increased weights or better looking product, then it equals more people in the camp who say double the potash vs phosphate + sulfur is a better bloom booster than just pk13/14...

So either make it yourself for almost literally nothing, or buy a cheaper version. It really is a piece of piss to replicate the same ratio yourself for a couple of quid a liter.

It's the main reason they say there's all sorts of other shit in there, because then it gives that mystery element to it... R&D.... scientific research... vitamins and amino acids.. because you can't quantify that and there is no legal obligation for them to tell you what, if anything, there is in there or how/where it is sourced. It all adds to the placebo factor.

If they just put the main basic ingredients on the side, they would never be able to answer the obvious question anyone with a bit of nous would ask: "why so feckin much"?



Not when they're charging £90 a liter for cheap minerals it's not mate. If they didn't do that I wouldn't compare them negatively with anyone and I wouldn't even be saying this. I've got nothing against anyone except those whose only purpose for such a markup is to get money out of people who know no better.



From the green's website mate.

well from what I hear mate there are new European labelling laws coming out next year so companies will be forced to say precisely whats in the tin

 

[milkyjoe]

The numbers tell you how concentrated it is, and it nowhere near justifies that price. I see that pm do that with quite a few of their products and I think they use gimmicks as part of the sales pitch when charging such an extortionate amount for something which shouldn't cost any more than a tenner at most - that they're more concentrated than other brands so it's worth it.



I've read a lot of testimonials from people who use pm coco who rave on it even though it even though their plants are showing signs of n toxicity. When I pointed it out and explained to them what it was, they understood.

Like reviews on anything, people have to know what they're looking for.

The thing is, even if they are getting increased weights or better looking product, then it equals more people in the camp who say double the potash vs phosphate + sulfur is a better bloom booster than just pk13/14...

So either make it yourself for almost literally nothing, or buy a cheaper version. It really is a piece of piss to replicate the same ratio yourself for a couple of quid a liter.

It's the main reason they say there's all sorts of other shit in there, because then it gives that mystery element to it... R&D.... scientific research... vitamins and amino acids.. because you can't quantify that and there is no legal obligation for them to tell you what, if anything, there is in there or how/where it is sourced. It all adds to the placebo factor.

If they just put the main basic ingredients on the side, they would never be able to answer the obvious question anyone with a bit of nous should ask: "why so feckin much"?



Not when they're charging £90 a liter for cheap minerals it's not mate. If they didn't do that I wouldn't compare them negatively with anyone and I wouldn't even be saying this. I've got nothing against anyone except companies who put such a massive markup on something so cheap



From the green's website mate.

My favorite...its pharm grade. And that matters why? Keep on asking why lo g enough and bullshit exposes itself