plant food bank?? are there any for broke mmj growers?

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

I was getting stoned one day thinking about trying to figure out what I'm gonna do for my future nonprofit career when it hit me; plant food bank. just like a food bank for people but for medical growers who are on a tight budget due to disability or whatever.

Are there any that you know of and if so, can you tell me how they operate so I can use it for a guideline. What do you guys think?

I think it's gonna change the world for the better!

 

[RoadRash]

I was getting stoned one day thinking about trying to figure out what I'm gonna do for my future nonprofit career when it hit me; plant food bank. just like a food bank for people but for medical growers who are on a tight budget due to disability or whatever.

You mean, a food bank where the food goes only to growers ?

Or, a food bank of plant food - people freecycling their grow supplies e.g. if they move or something ?

Or - a clone bank ?

Or - all of the above.


All of the above sounds good, but Jeez, LEO could throw a wrench in the works.

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

I'm talking about a bank of nutrients, soil, hydro accessories, anything pertaining to growing only accessible by medical patients that have a low income or have a temporary devastation/financial setback occur who would want to plead their case.

I'm pretty sure it's not something that can be set up into a legal nonprofit where people could get tax write offs for donations like at goodwill but you can set up something for people to use and donate. I was just curious if this has been done before by someone and if not, encourage others to set one up in their town. I'm sure many locations like collectives or markets would be interested in doing this. it not only serves a good cause but people coming in to donate might potentially buy something.

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

bumpity bump bump. good idea for all. spread the love people. forming a collection of plant growing stuff for people who need it gleaned from the unwanted stuff of others or even generousity!! ran by a volunteer who could check to make sure people who are gleaning are well meaning lol.

 

[RoadRash]

I'm talking about a bank of nutrients, soil, hydro accessories, anything pertaining to growing only accessible by medical patients that have a low income or have a temporary devastation/financial setback occur who would want to plead their case.

i think it's a good idea, like freecycling, for cannabis equipment tools & supplies.

sometimes when people move, they have a bunch of lights etc. and it's not always practical to take it along.

it would be great to have a place where you can donate it and it goes to 'good folks'.

 

[FNN]

I was getting stoned one day thinking about trying to figure out what I'm gonna do for my future nonprofit career when it hit me; plant food bank. just like a food bank for people but for medical growers who are on a tight budget due to disability or whatever.

Are there any that you know of and if so, can you tell me how they operate so I can use it for a guideline. What do you guys think?

I think it's gonna change the world for the better!

you give people plant for free?
Or you want make money?

In first case its charity, and gj man.
In second, mb I dont understand, but not much easy go and buy in market??

 

[Ont_Grow_Guy]

I think its a great idea.

When I made the switch to organic supersoil I had a whole shelf of bottled nutes that I had zero use for. Luckily I was able to gift most of the stuff to people in my area, so it all went to good use instead of in the garbage.

Im sure in communities that have larger amounts of med-growers, it would be very useful to many people to have a place to make donations for growers in need

 

[Snow Crash]

Everything a poor Cannabis grower needs is Sunlight, dirt, and water. And on the planet earth... there's kind of a lot of that shit just laying around.

If we're talking indoor growers:
Why are they paying for electricity they cannot afford? If they qualify for your low-income rate wouldn't any money the spend on cannabis impact their already overwhelmed budget?
I believe it would be smarter to simply provide these people with safe access to clean and effective medicine that they can use right away, rather than putting them through the trouble and hassle of a 10-14 week grow with the risk of failure (as you said, some will be disabled) which even if successful still may not fulfill their needs.
Running educational seminars would be a better use of your time and energy. Clone sharing should not be centralized due the the risk of contaminating strains. Mites are a huge issue, so it's better to allow growers to network. Give them the place to do it and let the network of growers do the plant exchange 1-on-1.

Handouts are a crutch. Knowledge is the cure.

 

[hush]

I can see this idea feasibly working out if done co-op style, but you will potentially run into supply issues from time to time, and then you have to worry about who gets what little supply there is. Also, how do you weed out people who are just cheap bastards? Who is going to weasel his way into the co-op, take his allotment of nutes, and then go back to his 500 light warehouse with the goods? It's unfortunate, but that will happen.

I also think this supply issue would be better circumvented if organics were focused on. That way, there could be some ongoing vermicompost and compost setups, some tea-brewing, that sort of thing.

Good luck.

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

I can see this idea feasibly working out if done co-op style, but you will potentially run into supply issues from time to time, and then you have to worry about who gets what little supply there is. Also, how do you weed out people who are just cheap bastards? Who is going to weasel his way into the co-op, take his allotment of nutes, and then go back to his 500 light warehouse with the goods? It's unfortunate, but that will happen.

I also think this supply issue would be better circumvented if organics were focused on. That way, there could be some ongoing vermicompost and compost setups, some tea-brewing, that sort of thing.

Good luck.

that is an amazing idea! I too was curious about keeping it stocked and that would work splendid.
As far as to abuse of the system, that will happen and is sad. I was hoping brainstorming on icmag would help and it sure has.

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

Everything a poor Cannabis grower needs is Sunlight, dirt, and water. And on the planet earth... there's kind of a lot of that shit just laying around.

If we're talking indoor growers:
Why are they paying for electricity they cannot afford? If they qualify for your low-income rate wouldn't any money the spend on cannabis impact their already overwhelmed budget?
I believe it would be smarter to simply provide these people with safe access to clean and effective medicine that they can use right away, rather than putting them through the trouble and hassle of a 10-14 week grow with the risk of failure (as you said, some will be disabled) which even if successful still may not fulfill their needs.
Running educational seminars would be a better use of your time and energy. Clone sharing should not be centralized due the the risk of contaminating strains. Mites are a huge issue, so it's better to allow growers to network. Give them the place to do it and let the network of growers do the plant exchange 1-on-1.

Handouts are a crutch. Knowledge is the cure.

I'm not talking about plants for free.

For example, I have an aunt that is disabled with fibromyalgia and is married to someone who makes low wages. Their combined income is $28,000 per year. The cost to purchase is $10g avg and will be going up to almost $20g after recreational starts and they shut down the all the medical collectives. People can still congregate in a medical community and right now, I haven't heard anything definitive but it's looking like they are taking away the "competition" by shutting down access to buds, tinctures, anything to medical patients and forcing them to purchase from the recreational stores that are opening. Basically, we might not be able to get the prices we once were and the quality is going to go down. the only way that people who need good clean meds is to grow them. so back to my aunt, purchasing pot is far more expensive than growing it. she uses a 1000w hps to bloom and uses flouros to veg to save electricity. money to pay the bill is not the issue but afterwards, she has a very limited budget to pay for growing expenses and also medical bills. so when she has an outbreak of mites, purchasing a bottle of stuff is an unforeseen expense and forces her to choose between other needs just so she doesn't have to be in pain constantly. Plus you know the husband likes to smoke too.
so I don't think by handing her some nutes I'm handing her a crutch. she simply has a hard time affording things to grow sometimes due to "life". People who have the physical capabilities to work are capable of finding another way to make money. She can't work and her husband works 5 days a week and does side work landscaping when he can.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

I agree with Hush's idea of a community compost dedicated to these growers that need the extra help. You might consider offering consultation services and even a helping hand for those really disabled. Of course lights and equipment could be transferred too and I'm sure the odd bottle.

But I'd try to discourage the bottle transfers. If only to encourage more proper organic growing methodologies to be adopted as they are far more sustainable and a lot cheaper. Plus these things have a shelf life. Flip side of course is that they exist and will end up unused and that would also be a shame.

There might be some liability issues to consider passing on used stuff that is potentially dangerous as well. IE: A bad ballast. I'm sure you would do extensive work to ensure these products did not end up anywhere but a recycling depot.

Quality vermicompost is priceless (if cheap to make) and not so easy to find everywhere.

 

[Snow Crash]

I'm not talking about plants for free.

For example, I have an aunt that is disabled with fibromyalgia and is married to someone who makes low wages. Their combined income is $28,000 per year. The cost to purchase is $10g avg and will be going up to almost $20g after recreational starts and they shut down the all the medical collectives. People can still congregate in a medical community and right now, I haven't heard anything definitive but it's looking like they are taking away the "competition" by shutting down access to buds, tinctures, anything to medical patients and forcing them to purchase from the recreational stores that are opening. Basically, we might not be able to get the prices we once were and the quality is going to go down. the only way that people who need good clean meds is to grow them. so back to my aunt, purchasing pot is far more expensive than growing it. she uses a 1000w hps to bloom and uses flouros to veg to save electricity. money to pay the bill is not the issue but afterwards, she has a very limited budget to pay for growing expenses and also medical bills. so when she has an outbreak of mites, purchasing a bottle of stuff is an unforeseen expense and forces her to choose between other needs just so she doesn't have to be in pain constantly. Plus you know the husband likes to smoke too.
so I don't think by handing her some nutes I'm handing her a crutch. she simply has a hard time affording things to grow sometimes due to "life". People who have the physical capabilities to work are capable of finding another way to make money. She can't work and her husband works 5 days a week and does side work landscaping when he can.

You really haven't thought this through. Legalization everywhere it has happened has dropped the price. It's cheap as dirt in Colorado right now. Uruguay has the price at under $1 per gram. Recreational will make it cheaper, not more expensive. If you don't believe that, then it's an opinion - not fact based on evidence.

I don't think anyone ever said anything about free plants. I'm talking about, you grow the plants, and you provide the medicine to the network of needy people that you generate. Basically, the traditional model isn't broken and doesn't need fixing.

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

maybe it's like that in other places that are fortunate but in Washington state its happening a bit different. here, now maybe you can fully understand.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsu...-in-seattle-washingtons-looming-pot-shortage/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsu...ill-the-feds-crack-down-on-medical-marijuana/

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

I agree with Hush's idea of a community compost dedicated to these growers that need the extra help. You might consider offering consultation services and even a helping hand for those really disabled. Of course lights and equipment could be transferred too and I'm sure the odd bottle.

But I'd try to discourage the bottle transfers. If only to encourage more proper organic growing methodologies to be adopted as they are far more sustainable and a lot cheaper. Plus these things have a shelf life. Flip side of course is that they exist and will end up unused and that would also be a shame.

There might be some liability issues to consider passing on used stuff that is potentially dangerous as well. IE: A bad ballast. I'm sure you would do extensive work to ensure these products did not end up anywhere but a recycling depot.

Quality vermicompost is priceless (if cheap to make) and not so easy to find everywhere.

This is what gave me the idea! I am literally about to throw away about $700 worth of synthetic nutes because I'm done growing that way and am now adopting organics. I would like to have both so everything is used. Also, plants that are fed synthetics don't have the microbiology there to feed organic nutes so that could present some problems if someone grows that way.

 

[whadeezlrg]

most nute co's will send you a sampler of basically their entire line-up for nothing more than an email asking for em fwiw...and if one co turns you down, ask a different one.

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

That is good to know! maybe that's how i'll get my supply of nutes to give away. hehe

 

[ghostmade]

Ive been thinking about this for a long time.a plant food bank. (In a crypted maner)

 

[Snow Crash]

maybe it's like that in other places that are fortunate but in Washington state its happening a bit different. here, now maybe you can fully understand.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsu...-in-seattle-washingtons-looming-pot-shortage/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsu...ill-the-feds-crack-down-on-medical-marijuana/

LMAO... "pot" shortage (really, people, it's cannabis).

Come October there will certainly be no shortage. While licensing in Washington has been slow I have been working with several of the licensees over the last few months. They have been in this game for more than a minute, and are totally ready to go.

It also pays very little attention to the demand from rec shops. It's not like medical was done away with. This is always the big great fear, perpetrated by those who profit from the illegality. They drum up and scare the customer base with "if it's legal it will be more expensive because of all these hypothetical non-reasons." California is a prime example of a failed attempt at legalization because the medical shops profit so much they ran a smear campaign against it.

100% of the time, legalization results in lower prices. I'm not buying that guys shtick one bit, he's blowing hot air.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

What they're experiencing in Washington and were experiencing in Colorado is shortages due to increased demand. Those shortages are temporary. The rules and regulations stand a good chance to keep prices high though, unfortunately. It should be dirt cheap. If it were legal everywhere and easy to import and export it would be shockingly cheap and we'd probably see some of those amazing equitorial strains again.... oh well.