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Problems with my friend (rso)

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belivitez

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So i have question for you guys.... my best friend have chron disease and i gave him a oil. He takes very tinny tinny dosage, and he has very bad fillings (strong heartbeat, nausea, dizzieness, vomiting, bad thoughts...) can someone explane this? I use same oil but without problems.... he takes oil for aboute 7days, always with bad fillings :/

Now he is scared, but he want to continue with treatment, but first he want to know how to pervent all things.... or if he has bad filling what to do in that momment?

i hope that all understand what i write because i have problem in english language.... my friend and i will be very thankfull for answer!
 
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belivitez

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Strain that i use to make oil is whitewidow. I extract exactly like rick simpson, but i use 2propil alcohol, because i cant get somethink else....
 
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Runt

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I had problems with WW when I used it, anxiety and paranoia were the worst. The symptoms passed when I switched strains to Aurora Indica.
 
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belivitez

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thanks for answer guys!! now he must to wait till end of this outdoor session....

maybe consist some substance that slow transition thc in blood? or decomposed a littlebit thc when you feel "too much"?
 
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diffusing

Active member
find a 100% indica strain if you can. sativas can cause paranoia in some people.. white widow is one that can do that for sure in some people, although its not a true sativa. rick simpson suggests 100% indica to avoid the paranoia/side effects you are mentioning
 
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diffusing

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after reading back up the thread i need to add.. nausea/vomiting don't seem like a sativa effect (heartbeat/bad thoughts perhaps), seems like you didnt purge the oil properly? or used some sort of contaminates? regardless, id go 100% indica, and be sure you use a proper/clean solvent, and purge the oil properly. good luck.
 
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belivitez

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@ diffusing thanks for that explaine! i always thought otherwise. so indica cauchlock - sativa or hybrid paranoia? how aboute autoflower?

becouse i use rso made of all strains without problems.... my friend is very scaried aboute it :)
 
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diffusing

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some people, myself included, occasionally have paranoia with some heavy/pure sativa strains. indica is more couchlock for sure. but no paranoia, calm and relax. if you can find a high CBD strain that may work as well, more functional, without the couchlock.

its all trial and error now unfortunately.

i would think autoflower would have higher than average cbd but unsure. id look to see if there are high cbd autoflower strains around if you want to go autoflower. ive not heard of any, but im sure some exist.

cbdcrew do high cbd strains, but dont know if they do autoflower

id like to know the answer to this myself if anyone knows :)

good luck
 
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Gry

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That your buddy would keep trying even after an uncomfortable dosage speaks loud to me.
I quite honestly think that your friend may very well be able to get relief from the cannabis you have now, if you can just get his dosage to a lower level.
I use oil as a replacement for opiates. I have a cancer, clear cell. Primary symptoms I deal with are pain and nausea.
I use iso quick wash, and mix it with butter prior to a decarb.
I take it under the tongue. sub lingual The amount needed may be a lot less than you think. What you described sounds EXACTLY the way an excess dosage feels to me. Uncomfortable experience really is one of those stupid understatements.
When I use the oil , I usually want and need it too work as quickly as possible, which is why I go with sub lingual administration. I can usually feel it in about 10 to 15 minutes. Less is more, it really does go a loooong way.
If you slowly increase his dose, starting very small, you will find a level that is comfortable. When I say slowly increase the dosage, I am thinking at least 45 minutes between doses to allow it time to take effect as to assure he will not have an uncomfortable experience by taking too much.
For me, the cancer has my stomach with pain and nausea. Similar to your friends condition. I have found that soaking in a tub of real hot water seems to help a lot. The combination of the hot water and the cannabis is the very best.
The correct dosage is always going to take a bit of trial and effort. Your buddy is blessed to have you in his life. I do not spend much time in the med section, but will respond to PM within 24 hours usually.
Wish you and your buddy the very, very best.
 
Slim Pickens

Slim Pickens

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diffusing said:
i would think autoflower would have higher than average cbd but unsure. id look to see if there are high cbd autoflower strains around if you want to go autoflower. ive not heard of any, but im sure some exist.

cbdcrew do high cbd strains, but dont know if they do autoflower

id like to know the answer to this myself if anyone knows :)

good luck
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Med-Gom by Grassomatic is a cbd enriched auto.I believe it is guaranteed to be a minimum of 4% cbd,but as high as 15% is not unheard of.I cannot direct you "off site" or to other seed vendors,but there is another breeder that offers cbd autos.
 
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HunterJ

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I would suggest a smaller dose, if he's smoking it try eating a cookie to slow uptake by the body (unless, as with Gry, above immediate effect is desirable), and environment control - only take it where he is very comfortable and relaxed to start with. And Indica over Sativa for sure.

There's another thread about this regarding strains to use here - https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=287680
 
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HunterJ

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belivitez said:
So i have question for you guys.... or if he has bad filling what to do in that momment?
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There are two things that have worked for me your friend can do in the moment of discomfort that are not drugs.

The first is breathing, google 'Yogic complete breath instructions' - requires some initial effort and focus of attention but it helps greatly since a lack of oxygen in the blood can actually cause some of the symptoms you describe.

The second is a form of meditation. Sitting comfortably with hands in lap touch thumbs to forefingers and focus attention on the sensation in the tips of those fingers - that's basic and will help more as your friend gets better at it by practice.

The key to these two exercises is 'do them properly and don't make a job of it'.
 
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belivitez

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gry thanks for that answer! i spend a lot of my time to prepare my friend that he trust i treatmen... i will say to him aboute dosing! start with dosage that he even felt nothing for one week? and he must to use just indica?

he told me that he scared in powerful and long high, i dont know is possible to felt high for aboute 10hr + (with all bad fillings)? he take very small dose.... this feelings that he descibe to me is something new to me :/
 
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belivitez

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hunterj, i will say to him aboute meditation and breathing tehnicques ;) how aboute correct food? is some food which accelerate degradation thc?
 
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