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mofeta

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Wow ThaiBliss thats nuts. Thanks for posting that. Wheat pheno indeed.

How is overall yield on something like that? It appears to me to be dramatically reduced as compared to a more normal growth habit.
 

ThaiBliss

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Wow ThaiBliss thats nuts. Thanks for posting that. Wheat pheno indeed.

How is overall yield on something like that? It appears to me to be dramatically reduced as compared to a more normal growth habit.

Here is the link to Charlie Garcia's Destroyer thread with the posts from Elchischas who grew the plant in those pictures:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=206849

Sorry, I should have cited it right away.

Enjoy,

ThaiBliss
 
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Cernunnos

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Hello everyone. Here are some photos of my Thai friends Sativa, it is a family heirloom strain that comes from Southern Thailand. It is shorter and quicker flowering than it's cousins in the north and Issan. They have that classic Thai structure but are shorter, look beautiful don't they? My brother has assured me they are potent. He said they used to take five months to grow and finish them and now he has been able to get that down to three months. I think this must be partly be possible due to the prolific growth rates of things in the south.

He also has a mutant variety of this landrace, which has stayed the same everytime it has been grown out again, so it's obviously a stable line. The grower says his plants smell like honey and are very tough, they can keep on growing even if they have some bugs on them. :dance013

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Sam_Skunkman

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Hello everyone. Here are some photos of my Thai friends Sativa, it is a family heirloom strain that comes from Southern Thailand. It is shorter and quicker flowering than it's cousins in the north and Issan. They have that classic Thai structure but are shorter, look beautiful don't they? My brother has assured me they are potent. He said they used to take five months to grow and finish them and now he has been able to get that down to three months. I think this must be partly be possible due to the prolific growth rates of things in the south.

He also has a mutant variety of this landrace, which has stayed the same everytime it has been grown out again, so it's obviously a stable line. The grower says his plants smell like honey and are very tough, they can keep on growing even if they have some bugs on them. :dance013



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The close up of the last photo shows it is intersex like many Thai.
Pretty skinny leaves for Thai also.
I have a very early shorter Thai also. Looks very different....
-SamS
 

Cernunnos

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Here is the mutant mother.







Both types hanging up


A new short one.


Special looking stuff eh, I think so
 

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Cernunnos

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The close up of the last photo shows it is intersex like many Thai.
Pretty skinny leaves for Thai also.
I have a very early shorter Thai also. Looks very different....
-SamS

Sam, do you know where your shorter Thai came from in thailand? Or another question, do you know if all the sativas from the south are of a shorter height (something like in the photos above) compared to their northern/nor east) relatives?
 

Cernunnos

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Seed sack well spotted, yeah skinny leaves:tiphat:
Looks like I failed determining sex 101when I re read what I said, that cannae be right. Also, I needed to be clearer about a stabilsed line and stabilsed traits.

With this small sized plant the smallness characteristic is what is stabalised, I am unaware how hermi prone these plants are at the moment. In another four to six weeks i will be able to give more feedback on them as I will have smoked some bud from them and hopefuly seen some plants.

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Sam_Skunkman

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Sam, do you know where your shorter Thai came from in thailand? Or another question, do you know if all the sativas from the south are of a shorter height (something like in the photos above) compared to their northern/nor east) relatives?

In the Isaan, the Northeast, near the city Sakon Nakhon. This was the traditional area of Cannabis cultivation. I collected the seeds in person.
-SamS
 
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Sativas outgrowing the greenhouse and making a big jungle


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Destroyer x Malawi in the background, Haze up close
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Bear - You've definitely got one of the nicest greenhouse environments I've seen on ICMag. Your girls look great as well.
 

LowFalutin

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This is from Chischas:

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This is the freaky Thai pheno from Destroyer.
ThaiBliss

The interesting thing about the above phenos,
Dr. Grinspoon (Rabney's Fram)...

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...and these JohnnyBlazeF2s,...


...etc., is that respectable trichrome coverage begins soon
after the side-stem leaves the main-stem. You could snip
at that point and throw the whole stem w/"buds" in your
hash-making pot.

Knowing how to get the best trichome removal from this
type of stem/bud structure would be the trick.

I hope to make some woody-incensy-lemony sativa hash
from some of the JohnnyBlazeF2 girls. I'll just need to grow
more/larger plants to have enough material to work with.

ps great thread
 

Only Ornamental

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Sorry guys and girls but I just can't help it:
Those airy buds remind me a lot of hemp :) ...
 

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Bear - You've definitely got one of the nicest greenhouse environments I've seen on ICMag. Your girls look great as well.


Yeah Madj. that's one fine grow, ain't it?

Thanks you guys! Although, I foresee them stretching far beyond the space limit, not sure about what will happen when they hit the plastic covering, i would imagine bud mold...maybe its not the right strategy, but...cross that bridge...



The interesting thing about the above phenos,
Dr. Grinspoon (Rabney's Fram)...

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...and these JohnnyBlazeF2s,...
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...etc., is that respectable trichrome coverage begins soon
after the side-stem leaves the main-stem. You could snip
at that point and throw the whole stem w/"buds" in your
hash-making pot.

Knowing how to get the best trichome removal from this
type of stem/bud structure would be the trick.

I hope to make some woody-incensy-lemony sativa hash
from some of the JohnnyBlazeF2 girls. I'll just need to grow
more/larger plants to have enough material to work with.

ps great thread


So those freaky looking things actually look quite a lot like what my Frost Monster will end up looking like: willowy flowing and HANGING buds covered in trichs.

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Because, guess why, the mom is Destroyer! which I know is one of those plants in your post.... and I happened to get a very freaky thai pheno just like that one and made it a mom. Very cool results.
 

rik78

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if you are concern about the plant touch the roof, why you dont tied her down, some LST will perfect for her

she will love it ;)
 

Only Ornamental

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Nag-nag-nag... I'm just saying that I see a certain familiarity. Besides, it's the 'Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread' and hemp being C. sativa but all the lovely pictures here are actually NLD C. indica... :D
But I'm not going to be a spoilsport and raise the game by a Ciskei (actually only a side bud) at 122 days of age or about 60 days into flowering. A few days later she had a third boost and pushed out new flowers.
 

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ThaiBliss

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I say we throw it all out, call everything Cannabis Sativa, including Ruderalis, and get over it. I feel this way, and I still bad mouth Indica even though my favorite outdoor plant in my possession is a fat leaved Nepalese. I am simply adverse to the couch-lock feeling.

One of the best and most potent highs I ever grew I suspect was a cross with Ruderalis. Go figure.

On "The Search for Trip Weed" thread, we are haggling over the definition of "trippy". I swear, it sounds like my family!

Then again, gene mapping of a diverse sampling of Cannabis would be fascinating. I'm so bad, I play devil's advocate to myself.

:biggrin:

ThaiBliss
 
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