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Gorilla Glue #4

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Grizz

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Stakes. Lots a stakes.
Got 24x 4' tall bamboo stakes, and about 50x 2' stakes.
Can always adapt as needed.
I was gonna get 2 screens, but I couldnt find the tri fittings needed to build the frames.
The pvc is cheap enough. So for now I use stakes.

There will be 8 plants under each 600w grown straight up. No topping.
Maybe some snapping and bending......
I'll remove more bottoms after the stretch if need be.
The ladies are stuffed under 2x 600's right now, for the mixed spectrum, and the 24h cycle. I dont want 3 lamps on 24h a day.
Once I flip em, they'll be split into groups of 8, and 3 lamps will go 12/12.
really looks good, I would use any means possible to build a frame for a screen though, once they start flopping its going to be impossible to keep all the branches upright, imo
 

MrTea

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I like to use rope versus bamboo stakes. Trying to not disrupt the soil foodweb and the root system is my main goal otherwise I'd do the same. I just tie down in the opposite direction it's flopping and I've never had any issues.
 

MrTea

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Putting a stake in the soil isn't a problem ...

I use concrete remesh, tposts, stakes and hortonova ..no flopping!

It isn't a major problem, but you are always going to be damaging something. No matter how small, it's still damage. I don't disrupt my soil if I can help it. Organic no tills though.
 

MrTea

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you think staking effects the web that much?

No, I think it's only minor. But why put my plants at 99.5% when they could be 100%? If your roots have filled an entire pot and you are in flower why stress those roots out at all? If it can be tied down externally why not?
 

ECtraveler

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I see it as a form of root pruning & aeration the same time.

j/k but IMO & experience unless you're making a fence out of the stakes or jamming them all over the place it doesn't affect things. If your plant is healthy it will take it in stride and if it doesn't then there are probably other issues going on.
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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made the mistake of being in a hurry netting that row of glue and running to the store before it closed. i did get some sideways looks.
 

Backyard Farmer

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It isn't a major problem, but you are always going to be damaging something. No matter how small, it's still damage. I don't disrupt my soil if I can help it. Organic no tills though.

Buddy, maybe you need to do a little research before you post stuff like this.

:tiphat:
 

MrTea

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Buddy, maybe you need to do a little research before you post stuff like this.

:tiphat:

Do you run no tills? I take my advice from Clackamas, but he's an idiot so what do I know...

Like I said I don't think it's a strongly bad idea, but go ahead and stab your roots if that's your sort of thing. I just stated I prefer ropes and ties over stakes, but thanks for the suggestion....Buddy.

If I wanted to I'd stake my pots before my plants' roots filled them.
 

Hammerhead

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lol stakes don't harm the plants at all. The amount of damage to the root zone is insignificant at the worst. Within a week if there is any damage it will regrow. Doing this WILL NOT do anything to diminish the quality of the plants. You do it your way with ropes and ties umkay. I will stake, bend, snap when I feel like it. .
 

MrTea

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lol stakes don't harm the plants at all. The amount of damage to the root zone is insignificant at the worst. Within a week if there is any damage it will regrow. Doing this WILL NOT do anything to diminish the quality of the plants. You do it your way with ropes and ties umkay. I will stake, bend, snap when I feel like it. .

Roots don't regrow in flower past the first several weeks. Not saying it will diminish the quality of the plants necessarily, but my soil food web on the other hand......it likes to remain undisturbed.
 

unclefishstick

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heres a quick method to check the health of your soil food web...look up at your light source and ask "is it a lamp?" if so you dont have a soil food web,you have some stuff composting indoors so dont worry about it...if you looked up and saw the sun,you do have a soil food web and theres very little you can do to disturb it with stakes...so dont worry about it...
 

Hammerhead

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Roots don't regrow in flower past the first several weeks. Not saying it will diminish the quality of the plants necessarily, but my soil food web on the other hand......it likes to remain undisturbed[/FONT]
IME that's not true. The roots grow in flower up to week 4-5 vigorously. they then slow to a crawl but still keep growing. I have living soil, I find many different bennies under the scope. I use Compost teas all the time that's teaming with life...

If you look at a hydro setup the root mass doubles in size during flower. General organics calls for bio root the first 2-3 weeks of 12/12 if that says anything...

I use Root Bloom and Rootamentary from Beneficial Biologics. Great products.
 

unclefishstick

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im not trying to slag on organics,they work fine in the proper context,i.e. outdoors wheres theres actually sufficient energy from the sun to drive the biologic process which results in soil.but as far as i know the creation of soil is the sole provenience of nature,that no actual scientist can claim to be able to recreate the incredible diversity that real soil represents.i find the notion that a bucket of stuff in someones growroom being soil about as accurate as saying a salt water aquarium is the ocean.nor do i find the notion of shipping stuff from all over the planet to grow some pot in to be in the true spirit of organics,its supposed to be about regional biodiversity,not robbing biomass from across the world so you can have your neem meal and give your coconut water and aloe foliars,which by the way,i have never seen happen once in nature in spite of thousands of days spent out...
 

Hammerhead

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Im not doing that either ????.. I can duplicate the environment of the ocean in a tank..It's not the Ocean but the organisms, plants and animals think it is. having said all that you guys can continue the debate I have better things to do like posting these pic of the gg#4 s1. So far no issues. She does have stronger branches. She will not need as much support.


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