6/9 & A Pinch BayBay!

[cannacultural]

Cheers for the input. Having looked over it a bit more, I think it is a K def. Given I'm into week 5 of flower, they might be wanting a bit more PK. I've kept my feed rate around 1.2EC recently.

H3ad mentions increasing the bloom ration to 12ml/gal for a week around week 5 didn't he? I'm not wanting to add more in for no reason. Will have another look when lights come on and make a call

 

[cannacultural]

Found it https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1165328&postcount=191

I'm now running the 6 and 9 ratio up to the first third of 12/12, then 6 and 12 for 1 week, then just 9ml/gal bloom with no micro up until the last three weeks, which are just distilled water...

So I'll give that a go into week 5, which sounds about right

 

[theother]

Found it https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1165328&postcount=191

So I'll give that a go into week 5, which sounds about right

Is that a quote from h3ad. Didn't follow the link, but that's a very small amount of nitrogen and a super Lon flush. When I tried cutting the micro early it did not work out well. Have seen others here have the same experience.

 

[FlaDankster]

If you're over feeding you can cut the micro early i have found.But if you have shit dialed cutting the micro out early doesn't give steller results.Plants yellow WAY to fast.


And what i mean by over feeding is salt build up giving high ppm/ec in the coco.They'll keep some green to them after micro has been cut fo a bit.

Cutting the micro down to 3 ml till flush worked mo betta fo me.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

that sounds reasonable what ratio and ec do you flush with and when do you start?

If you're over feeding you can cut the micro early i have found.But if you have shit dialed cutting the micro out early doesn't give steller results.Plants yellow WAY to fast.


And what i mean by over feeding is salt build up giving high ppm/ec in the coco.They'll keep some green to them after micro has been cut fo a bit.

Cutting the micro down to 3 ml till flush worked mo betta fo me.

 

[FlaDankster]

When the batteries died in the ppm pen i said fuck that thing.Lol


I do not feed 6/9 at all times.6/9 gets cut in half once a week and i look for a good 50+ percent of run off to deter salt build up.Does it get all the salts that MAY be built up.....dunno......but it has helped with the end product.

If it is an 8 week strain i'll get my micro at 3 during the 5th week and they'll get that for about a week.

I give water the last 7-10 days.

 

[Coconutz]

Cutting N early is a myth
1/2 strength feeds and fading micro fucks my plants up!
The buds always fade and look like shit...
From now on when my plants look done I give them just bloom, or cns17 ripe for a week and then pure water for a few days.
Im waiting for the buds to look ripe before I drop 6/9 and then they dont care if theres any N at all

 

[theother]

Cutting N early is a myth
1/2 strength feeds and fading micro fuck my plants up!
The buds always fade and look like shit...
From now on when my plants look done I give them cns17 for a week and then pure water for a few days.
Im waiting for the buds to look ripe before I drop 6/9 and then they dont care if theres any N at all

This has been my experience as well, except for the cns 17, havent tried that yet. I find 1.2 ec all the way with 6/9 works great, if your using drip clean flush is almost instantaneous, if not it takes a few days.

 

[Coconutz]

Physan20 is now my go to for cleaning my rooms.
It doesnt give off that heavy smell for hours like when I clean the room with bleach.

 

[Coconutz]

This has been my experience as well, except for the cns 17, havent tried that yet. I find 1.2 ec all the way with 6/9 works great, if your using drip clean flush is almost instantaneous, if not it takes a few days.

Guess I shoulda said just bloom or cns17 RIPE

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

ok i got one for you. so i did something dumb. my first run at coco......i forgot to precharge the coco (coco palms by roots supposedly washed and charged bgged stuff) before transplanting my aero clones into the 4" squares. the gg4s are turning yellow between viens whole plants look very pale green. im thinking foliar with calmag by by botanicair. they are on 6/9 but did get one watering with soil formula due to a hurried visit and a mixed media room. i also have epsom on hand my thoughts were to go 1 mil per gallon on foliar spray and supplement 6/9 with 1 gram per gallon epsom salt. they look like theyll bounce back i have 4 weeks left to veg and they are healthy considering. what do yall reckon i should do to persuade back into lush growth.

 

[cannacultural]

I wasn't planning on dropping the micro so soon. I'm in wk5 bloom, and don''t want to rush any changes. I gave them a feed last night with the extra bloom (6/12) at 1.2 EC. Will do that again during this week, then return back to 6/9 for another 1-2 weeks. Then I'll see how close we are to needing to harvest.

I like your comment Coconutz - will probably do much the same, continue 6/9 as far as I can bare, then maybe a bit of a flush

 

[Coconutz]

ok i got one for you. so i did something dumb. my first run at coco......i forgot to precharge the coco (coco palms by roots supposedly washed and charged bgged stuff) before transplanting my aero clones into the 4" squares. the gg4s are turning yellow between viens whole plants look very pale green. im thinking foliar with calmag by by botanicair. they are on 6/9 but did get one watering with soil formula due to a hurried visit and a mixed media room. i also have epsom on hand my thoughts were to go 1 mil per gallon on foliar spray and supplement 6/9 with 1 gram per gallon epsom salt. they look like theyll bounce back i have 4 weeks left to veg and they are healthy considering. what do yall reckon i should do to persuade back into lush growth.

They are probably just in shock from going from aero to coco.
I wouldnt overreact. Give them a couple days of 6/9 to bounce back.
Theres no problem with adding 1g of epsom to the feed or giving them 2ml of some calmag for the first couple of days in new coco.
A calmag or mag foliar once during the first transplant wouldnt hurt.

 

[stoned40yrs]

I wish you guys would make up your mind.If I would have known you can run 6/9 all the way from veg till thru bloom I might have stuck with the 6/9 instead of going to MB. Oh well MB kicks ass like 6/9 from what I'm seeing so far. I'll rethink it all after this run.

 

[cannacultural]

I wish you guys would make up your mind.If I would have known you can run 6/9 all the way from veg till thru bloom I might have stuck with the 6/9 instead of going to MB. Oh well MB kicks ass like 6/9 from what I'm seeing so far. I'll rethink it all after this run.

If you're doing 7g/gal MB, you'd be on the standard Lucas formula right? Maybe your plants like the extra kick

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

yeah its been like over a week and a half. seemed to be getting worse on just the ggs. the other ones got greener right away. so ihit with some mag and i think itll work. if not ill do more. ill have to wait a couple to see what the new growth is looking like from what i did i dont imagine the yellow leaves will regain color but i hope that the new growth will.,

 

[stoned40yrs]

If you're doing 7g/gal MB, you'd be on the standard Lucas formula right? Maybe your plants like the extra kick

Ya my goal is to feed the same nutes at the same ec to the plants from seed/clone to finish thru blumats. I want the dank and good yield but I don't need max yield and could care less about dialing in my grow past the easy to achieve steps. I have 5 different strains in bloom and veg eating 1.6ec MB 7g/gal right now. I tried dropping the ec down to 1.1-1.2 and the bottom fan leaves all started to fade the 1st week in bloom so I upped it back up to full dose. I hope the 1ml/gal dripclean does it's job because that's a lot of nutes and I have no runoff with blumats.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

is that 1.6 with ro or tap?

Ya my goal is to feed the same nutes at the same ec to the plants from seed/clone to finish thru blumats. I want the dank and good yield but I don't need max yield and could care less about dialing in my grow past the easy to achieve steps. I have 5 different strains in bloom and veg eating 1.6ec MB 7g/gal right now. I tried dropping the ec down to 1.1-1.2 and the bottom fan leaves all started to fade the 1st week in bloom so I upped it back up to full dose. I hope the 1ml/gal dripclean does it's job because that's a lot of nutes and I have no runoff with blumats.

 

[stoned40yrs]

is that 1.6 with ro or tap?

My well water is 0.3

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

so when running hydro you cant run as many nutes if you have water with any kind of ec as compared to ro. i get that part but is it a zero sum game? say a plant can take 69 at 1.7 on ro but your water is tap .3 does that mean you can still only run 1.7 total leaving you only able to use 1.4 in nutes while the ro guy uses a full 1.7 in mutes or is it not quite that simple. could you run slightly higher ec like say 1.5 worth of nutes leaving you at 1.8 ec with similar results as 1.7 ro gh. or can you run tap plus full nutes at 2.0 ec