Dementia and dieing and tincture

[ronbo51]

My mother is dieing. We brought her in to be with us at the end. She has multiple physical problems.Mentally she has severe dementia and can barely communicate. Mostly gibberish with occasional lucid thoughts. She seems haunted most of the time and I hate to see her so tortured by her mind. We have tried several different approaches to get her calm and allow her to peacefully sleep and let go. With elderly people sleep aids that normally are bulletproof like Ambien and Lucent are often ineffective, and they are that way with her She has end stage rheumatoid arthritis and everything is painful for her. We have tried different pain meds and they seem antagonistic also.
This morning I started dosing her with my tincture. I have been meaning to do this for a while, now I have just done it. I would like to get her off everything but this. Does anyone have experience with the elderly, dementia, end stage arthritis? I want something to work, and I believe this is the answer. God knows it helps me with pain, anxiety and sleep. Any thoughts??? Thanks

 

[Stoner4Life]

from what I read above I'd have to say it sounds like you've done the right thing. narcotic pain meds are hard on the body, this I know from experience.

tincture doesn't do too much for me as a high and I've not tried it for duration as pain meds so I can't say for sure ron.

best of luck & having her near you will give her the best comfort for sure, you guys are in my thoughts and prayers.

 

[Bud Green]

ronbo51,, I know this is an old thread, but I am now dealing with the same thing... Were you able to find out anything to help your Mom near the end... I'm sorry if I sound blunt... I'm not very good with expressing myself in type... I hope you found good info and would be willing to share it with me....

Thanks,,,,, Bud....

 

[Payaso]

High Bud Green... sorry to hear about your situation. I have seen cannabis used for palliative relief for the dying many times... it is a blessing whether they can eat it , slather it on as oil or tincture or whatever... it helps a lot and does calm the mind, as you know

Best wishes...

 

[Bud Green]

High Bud Green... sorry to hear about your situation. I have seen cannabis used for palliative relief for the dying many times... it is a blessing whether they can eat it , slather it on as oil or tincture or whatever... it helps a lot and does calm the mind, as you know

Best wishes...

Thanks Payaso...
My Mom probably isn't quite as bad off as ronbo's, as she does still have an appetite...Her dementia is to the point where she doesn't remember shit from one minute to the next. Thankfully, she still knows me and wifey and knows we are making her life comfortable...And she thanks me for not letting my "bro" send her to the rest home...She's been in my house in the woods for 10 months now, and her brain has gone downhill the whole time...

It is so sad for me to watch it, as she was a great mother to me when I was growing up..

I'm a long time pot user, but Ive been out of the "scene" for a long time. What do you mean by "slathering it on as oil" or by "tincture"? Mom could NOT smoke pot, but if I knew this oil or tincture would help her for her pain from the osteo-arthritis and her brain, she would listen to me and use this oil if it didn't get her too stoned.

Any help or ideas on how cannabis could possibly help her without her getting too stoned would be greatly appreciated..

Thanks man,,, Bud

 

[rangergord]

Non Smokers often do well with a vaporizer.

 

[RB56]

Contemplating this for my father. Just afraid it will frighten him. The irony is that even though he's in hospice care he thinks he's in prison because they found pounds of marijuana in his room. He told me the bed was completely covered with the stuff when they broke in. In his real life he never tried it and would never have considered doing so.

Weirdest ride I've ever been on.

 

[paladin420]

Check out the extraction forum for RSO (Rick Simpson ) type oils.
They work.
Look for high CBD strains to make the oil from and the narcotic effect is more manageable.
If no high cbd's are available start with very very small doses.

Good luck guys may u have some
good Days
Pal

 

[paladin420]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=104688
This may be helpful

Good days

 

[GoonSaibot]

My mother is dieing. We brought her in to be with us at the end. She has multiple physical problems.Mentally she has severe dementia and can barely communicate. Mostly gibberish with occasional lucid thoughts. She seems haunted most of the time and I hate to see her so tortured by her mind. We have tried several different approaches to get her calm and allow her to peacefully sleep and let go. With elderly people sleep aids that normally are bulletproof like Ambien and Lucent are often ineffective, and they are that way with her She has end stage rheumatoid arthritis and everything is painful for her. We have tried different pain meds and they seem antagonistic also.
This morning I started dosing her with my tincture. I have been meaning to do this for a while, now I have just done it. I would like to get her off everything but this. Does anyone have experience with the elderly, dementia, end stage arthritis? I want something to work, and I believe this is the answer. God knows it helps me with pain, anxiety and sleep. Any thoughts??? Thanks

my pop just died i made the mistake of not treating him with cannabis...


my 2 cents... coconut oil and fish oil and alot of organic blueberried and such are your best best but also use cdb tintures...

 

[GoonSaibot]

Contemplating this for my father. Just afraid it will frighten him. The irony is that even though he's in hospice care he thinks he's in prison because they found pounds of marijuana in his room. He told me the bed was completely covered with the stuff when they broke in. In his real life he never tried it and would never have considered doing so.

Weirdest ride I've ever been on.

alzhiemrs is no joke... my pop used to be in the army you know how many times he was getting into combat in his sleep? sometimes the dreams would overlap with reality it was hard for him to break out...

 

[GreeeeN GRassss]

i actually work with the elderly in a hospital and i see people with Alzheimer's on a regular basis, its the most desperate illness you can have. just enjoy the times they remember who you are. yes the visions they can have are so real it can be so hard to talk them thru it and explain that the object they are seeing is not there

i always remember that film the note book. very upsetting.

 

[GoonSaibot]

i actually work with the elderly in a hospital and i see people with Alzheimer's on a regular basis, its the most desperate illness you can have. just enjoy the times they remember who you are. yes the visions they can have are so real it can be so hard to talk them thru it and explain that the object they are seeing is not there

i always remember that film the note book. very upsetting.

they say dont even bother to try to talk them out of it... just go along with it..

 

[Slim Pickens]

Bud.Try this:

Alzheimer’s,Mom and Cannabis

http://skunkpharmresearch.com/alzheimers-mom-and-cannabis/

This is from the experience of one of Graywolf's compatriots.

Good luck..someone may need this for one of us..someday.

 

[GreeeeN GRassss]

yes some times the best way is to go along with it but in different circumstances you have to explain things. like when they are trying to take other peoples propertie or there not eating their food for some reason.

 

[RoadRash]

I think it would work better if the patient can be introduced to the Cannabis use when they are still lucid.

Then they can communicate about what dosing (amount and frequency) works best for them.

They're lucky to have you.

 

[armedoldhippy]

my mom passed from Alzheimers dementia last year. do NOT argue with them, it just makes it worse for them, & sadder for you. go along with the joke & agree with them, you will be glad you did. I quit letting my uncle come see her after he started arguing with her & saying things like "sis, now you KNOW that mom & dad died years ago!" exactly what good can come from this? she sat for hours watching out the window for someone that died 40 years ago, but that beat hell out of listening to her cry for even longer because they were gone. every day is a new one for them, why fuck it up? let them have some hope in their final days...

 

[armedoldhippy]

yes some times the best way is to go along with it but in different circumstances you have to explain things. like when they are trying to take other peoples propertie or there not eating their food for some reason.

Alzheimers destroys the part of the brain controlling memory. they have false memories along with real ones. the part of the brain that controls memory also reminds them when they get hungry. most patients eventually starve to death unless force-fed. my mom went from 120# to around 73#. she & my father had living wills stipulating no heroic measures, no feeding by tubes etc, etc.

 

[GreeeeN GRassss]

Alzheimers destroys the part of the brain controlling memory. they have false memories along with real ones. the part of the brain that controls memory also reminds them when they get hungry. most patients eventually starve to death unless force-fed. my mom went from 120# to around 73#. she & my father had living wills stipulating no heroic measures, no feeding by tubes etc, etc.

in other cases patients forget that they have eaten and eat more. every person reacts to it differently.

im sorry to hear that about your parents, its heartbreaking watching family's come in and out vising there fit and healthy parents but they do not remember who their kids are.

i agree with your parents wishes, ill have the same things in writing before i get to old

 

[Bud Green]

I appreciate everyone commenting since I re-opened this old thread by ronbo51.

Mom is far into the middle stage of dementia. She knows who me and wifey are, but she often forgets which state of the USA she lives in now. I moved her here last summer over 1000 miles, into a 500 sq. ft. addition I built onto my house in the woods.

She sometimes forgets that she has 2 grand-daughters, as they never call her. (Not my kids) And she gets worried about silly things like where she left something. My Mom was a great Mom to me growing up, and I did not want her going to a nursing home.

Luckily, she NEVER forgets to eat, and I have no idea how she puts away as much as she does..and she's not a big woman. I try to keep her mind off of worrying and help to keep her happy. It seems that watching re-runs of old TV shows like Golden Girls or I Love Lucy keeps her laughing and happy...

It's been extremely stressful to me and wifey, but we made a decision to take care of her and we're going to do our best to fulfill it.