how bad is the water shortage in california?

[NorCalDreaming]

Just read 3 in 4 chance of El Nino this year so Cali could get drenched starting later this year. If so might not be good for outdoor growers and could end up being a short season finished early with rain...and bud rot. El Nino forecast from Scripps Institute of Oceanography. Early indications of El Nino conditions forming in the Pacific yet not a guarantee. At least there's some hope for later in the year and until then Cali may go bone dry.

 

[supermanlives]

beat ya to it one page back lol altho I heard like 49 percent or something......it better happen reguardless or I am outtta here...I don't have a chance at outdoor grow with things the way they are

 

[NorCalDreaming]

beat ya to it one page back lol

Fook I missed that. I'm a bit slow

 

[rives]

One thing that is kind of interesting about this - all of the squeals about removing those nasty dams have gone quiet.....

 

[justpassnthru]

California getting federal aide, before the results are in.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/14/obama-california-drought_n_4791906.html
Apparently, Gov. Brown knows what he is doing, with experience:

Obama On California Drought: Climate Change Threatens The Nation
AP | by DARLENE SUPERVILLE
Posted: 02/14/2014 8:26 pm EST Updated: 02/15/2014 9:59 am EST


LOS BANOS, Calif. (AP) — Warning that weather-related disasters will only get worse, President Barack Obama said Friday the U.S. must rethink the way it uses water as he announced new federal aid to help drought-stricken California.

Obama drew a clear connection between California's troubles and climate change as he toured part of a farm that will go unsown this year as the state faces its worst drought in more than 100 years. Even if the U.S. takes action now to curb pollution, the planet will keep getting warmer "for a long time to come" thanks to greenhouse gases that have already built up, Obama said.

"We're going to have to stop looking at these disasters as something to wait for. We're going to have to start looking at these disasters as something to prepare for," Obama said.

After arriving in California on Friday afternoon, Obama met with community leaders at a rural water facility before announcing more than $160 million in federal financial aid, including $100 million in the farm bill he signed into law last week for programs that cover the loss of livestock.

The overall package includes smaller amounts to aid in the most extreme drought areas and to help food banks that serve families affected by the water shortage. Obama also called on federal facilities in California to limit water consumption immediately.

"These actions will help, but they're just the first step," he said. "We have to be clear. A changing climate means that weather-related disasters like droughts, wildfires, storms, floods, are potentially going to be costlier and they're going to be harsher."

He urged Congress to act swiftly on Democratic legislation backed by California's senators, Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, that would pour $300 million into emergency aid and drought-relief projects, upgrade city water systems and water conservation, and speed up environmental reviews of water projects, among other steps.

The president also announced that the budget he'll send to Congress next month will include $1 billion for a proposed "climate resilience fund" to invest in research and pay for new technologies to help communities deal with the impact of climate change. The proposal is likely to face stiff resistance from lawmakers wary of new spending and divided on the subject of global warming.

Later Friday, Obama was meeting Jordan's King Abdullah II at the Rancho Mirage estate Sunnylands for talks covering the Mideast peace process, Syria and other issues. It's unusual for Obama to host world leaders outside of the White House, though he did hold a two-day summit at Sunnylands last year with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Obama planned to spend Presidents Day weekend at the estate and was expected to make use of its golf course. He traveled without first lady Michelle Obama.

The White House has been closely watching the California drought, which follows a year of the lowest rainfall on record. The drought has also brought to a head political warfare over the state's water resources that feed major cities, the country's richest agricultural region and waterways that provide habitat for endangered species of fish.

No longer can the U.S. afford to think about water as a competition between the nation's agricultural and urban areas, Obama said earlier at a water facility in Firebaugh. With overall water resources expected to diminish significantly in the future, he said, the country must find better ways to cooperate.

"We are going to stay on top of this because it has national implications," Obama said.

Farmers recently learned they will not be receiving irrigation water from the State Water Project, a system of rivers, canals and reservoirs. They anticipate a similar announcement later this month from federal authorities who operate a similar system called the Central Valley Project.

Federal officials, including Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, earlier this month pledged $34 million to help farmers and ranchers conserve scarce water supplies, improve irrigation methods, head off erosion of unplanted fields and create better ways to water livestock.

The Republican-controlled House recently voted to address the drought by rolling back environmental protections and temporarily halting the restoration of a dried-up stretch of the San Joaquin River, work that is designed to restore historic salmon runs. Farmers would prefer to have the water diverted to their crops instead.

Environmentalists and Democrats oppose the bill, and the White House has threatened a veto, arguing that the measure would not alleviate the drought but would undo decades of work to address California's longstanding water shortages.

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Associated Press writer Scott Smith in Fresno, Calif., contributed to this report.

Sadly, I see no mention of aide to the families that are now paying higher prices for fruit, veges, milk and anything that takes water to grow or gas to burn. Aide to California farmers, though. How screwed up is that? As, it doesn't include mmj farmers and other articles suggest that mmj farmers are creating this 'waste.' Water prices increasing, as well.

Any excuse to drive up prices for the consumer. And don't even let me get started on how the banks are holding more REO's (real estate owned by the bank) and not being placed on the market, once their surplus of REO's are gone..interest rates are going to be so high only Superman can see the ceiling.

None the less, I am in California for the good and the bad. jpt

 

[IGROWMYOWN]

Some much needed rain been going on much of the night also yesterday.

 

[420somewhere]

It's raining pretty good here in SoCal right now

looks like it will rain all day. The forecast calls for 3-6 inches

 

[stoned-trout]

raining now... wont make much diff... they measured the snow pack and its sad... saw a picture from last year compared to this year and its even more sad.......goonna be a rough dry hot summer... the farmers are screwed...

 

[BOMBAYCAT]

The news said it is raining too much all at once. I hope it doesn't mess up the outside grows.

 

[IGROWMYOWN]

A decent storm I can hear the ambulance sirens already here in LA I need to make a hydro run to my spot but might have to hold off. Nothing worse than LA drivers in wet conditions on these oil slick roads in pouring rain and wind.

 

[stoned-trout]

The news said it is raining too much all at once. I hope it doesn't mess up the outside grows.

outside grows are most likely covered ones this early in year...lol but the plots might get their soil washed away if in wrong area..... we need the rain bad... this is just a trickle of whats needed....drought affects everyone...its pouring out now ..went in walk in my drover\duster to actually get the dust off..it aint seen rain in quite a while

 

[stoned-trout]

the river almost looks like a river again instead of a stream.. a few more inches and the sport kayak comes out.. I can cruise to bar and then the lake........yeehaw...fuck city life....SML

 

[armedoldhippy]

from drought to flood. all they need now is another earthquake & the whole place will slide into the Pacific...

 

[VonBudí]

bump how are things going ? seems to be alot of new about fires. has there been any rain?

 

[justpassnthru]

101 degrees in Los Angeles yesterday; 95 degrees right now SE of it, feels relatively dry, too.

Those fires are killing people and no doubt, a big part of the drought. Arson is suspect in most of those fires. I heard 2 individuals have been taken in for questioning, in regards to the arson. They'll be charged with murder, too. jpt

 

[stoned-trout]

it would take a hell of a lot of rain to make any difference.....cali is screwed....all the resevoirs are pathetic and throwing money around aint gonna help....expect water rates to skyrocket... glad I get my water from stream right next to sequoia park direct from mountains...no way to limit me bitches

 

[krunchbubble]

I have figured out how to fix our(California's) water problems!!!

Solar powered, car sized dehumidifiers installed in the backyard of every house...

They would pull 300-500 gallons a day out of the air, more then enough for the households needs...

 

[stoned-trout]

solar powered stills making seawater drinkable

 

[krunchbubble]

solar powered stills making seawater drinkable

SEE!! Thats even easier and cheaper!!!

 

[Stoner4Life]

glad I get my water from stream right next to sequoia park direct from mountains...no way to limit me bitches

don't bother to church it up bro, you get your water while livin' in a van, down by the river.......