First At-Home Live Plant Resin Extraction

[HashoftheTitans]

Hello, as I am not from Colorado, I have never seen any commercial live plant resin extracts in person. I am aware, somewhat, of how it is done. Basically the plant is harvested, frozen and extracted over a short period of time, retaining many of the lighter monoterpenes. I am wondering if anyone has run into much of this and what kind of consistency it usually is. Is it more often sappy or shattery? I understand there is also live resin wax. What are the differences in flavor?

The reason I ask is that I just did an experimental live resin extraction for a friend that had a beautiful OG cross that hermied on him. I did the harvest, deep-freezing and extraction within a few hour period. I did two different batches of the same material, and got two different colors. I'm guessing this had to do with how cold the extraction was done. I didn't have an IR thermometer on hand, but giving the components involved, I'm guessing I hit as low as -60 but I was just winging it. The first batch, which was probably colder came out almost transparent. The other was bright orange. I had to leave it with him to purge but I wasn't worried as he is OCD and will not overpurge, and have seen him use his 15gal vac chamber with pretty good precision so I am quite confident there is very little solvent left. As of right now the consistency is sappy. I am so used to running dry material and dewaxing so shatter is almost automatic every time. As I have not done too much with fresh frozen material so I don't know if this should be expected. This stuff is loaded with terps so I'm wondering if this could change the consistency. Could it be water? The lack of sizzle and great flavor make me think not. So I'm wondering, should I be concerned if it's not going to shatter? Especially since I know that with the dried material of the same plant I can make shatter, or could the presence of all those lighter terpenes make it more viscous? If purged longer do you think the loss of those terps would allow it to shatter (not that I care if it does). Any input would be appreciated.

 

[Sextracts]

Terps defitinitely are a liquid consistency, so that wouldn't be out of the question. But I do believe a longer purge at maybe a slightly lower temp could produce a more shatter product. No reason for concern unless you believe it to be underpurged, which also may produce a sappier product.

 

[dopecook]

it's almost always a "pull and snap" consistency when i run fresh/frozen. looks about right to me!

 

[HighStateToke]

Likely due to the terps or moisture. Does it seem fully purged?

Yes moisture would sizzle but I don't see how it could take away from the flavor.

 

[HashoftheTitans]

I had to leave last night before the purge was finished. And since it wasn't my material and equipment I had to let the process leave my hands after the scrape. He was going to drop by a bit tomorrow so I can check it out, My only fear is that the sample he drops off will have tane in it and I have to go through the difficult process of convincing him that it does. Finger's crossed that it was properly purged, and is just terp sap. I wouldn't be surprised given the super cold temp extraction and low heat purge. I just don't know what to expect as it was my first time trying this method. I was happy with the estimated 20% yield after dewaxing. It's hard to say exactly how much we ran since it was fresh bud but were thinking it would have been about 35 grams of dried material.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Our fresh frozen has more mono and sesquiterpenes left, so comes out taffy, with extreme aromatics.

 

[JointOperation]

yup. my nug runs always usually pretty taffy like.. fast pull and snap.. in the summer especially .. in the winter obv colder air temps.. and its more shattery.. but still ill take a SAPPY STINKY oil over a barely smelling shatter any day of the week..

but all the consistencies have there place. love all properly purged hash oil.

 

[JColtrane]

Thermos cryo soak is the only way I'd extract fresh frozen ... thanks GW

When I got some time to R&D this fall, I'm gonna do this inline ...

 

[dabKling]

when u guys refer to fresh frozen......does this mean that the material is wet when frozen? never dried at all?

I was reading about JoeFarmer pulling a week-11 days early and doing some fresh frozen, but was curious about clarification of the term.

tyvm!

 

[Gray Wolf]

when u guys refer to fresh frozen......does this mean that the material is wet when frozen? never dried at all?

I was reading about JoeFarmer pulling a week-11 days early and doing some fresh frozen, but was curious about clarification of the term.

tyvm!

It means that we clip the fresh cut nugs to about 1/4"/3/8" size and pack them in a thermos, before freezing them.

There is no drying before hand, other to insure that there is no water on the surface to freeze and coat the trichomes.

Packing before freezing and excluding air, will also help prevent atmospheric humidity from doing the same.

 

[HashoftheTitans]

I also add a little dry ice to freeze my nugs and the off-gassing of CO2 while it freezes keeps humidity in the air from forming condensation on the material.

 

[dabKling]

fucking radical thank you.

 

[HashoftheTitans]

This is what it ended up looking like. It has a wet, crumbly consistency. Smells incredible, like grapefruit and ginger. I prefer the lighter colored one which was the colder extraction. Can't wait to try it again. The flavor blows away any other extracts I've had. I'm not sure of the medicinal effects, as I have been stingy and doing small dabs.

 

[Lono]

This is what it ended up looking like. It has a wet, crumbly consistency. Smells incredible, like grapefruit and ginger. I prefer the lighter colored one which was the colder extraction. Can't wait to try it again. The flavor blows away any other extracts I've had. I'm not sure of the medicinal effects, as I have been stingy and doing small dabs.

Looks great!

I've seen plenty of live-resin but never had the opportunity to try any. When ever I have the choice of shatter for 50-60, or live resin for 70-80(or what ever it is, it's always more), I chose the shatter. Shatter has plenty of terps for me, and that seems to be the only advantage of the live resin.

The budtender said he feels that live resin is less potent, but more flavorful/aromatic. Said it has a lot of hype surrounding it and that he thinks it will die down soon. That being said, I still plan to do it with my personal runs

 

[cyphaman]

looks mad nice! I need to try me some live plant resin extractions. Nice work!

 

[JointOperation]

so whats the best method to do this.. should you just use a soak method.. or is it possible to load up tubes and spray?

i just cut a pheno of trainwreck x og kush x skunk.. was a runt seedling. took clone and let her veg.. got about a qp. maybe 6 ozs.. i just cut her down today.. so whats the process.. do i cut it up before freezing.. or freeze then chop.. then freeze then pack then freeze then spray? or .. from what i was told . you want to make sure its kept very cold at all times pull the tubes and tane out right before you spray.. and start.. i just dont want a pool of water. or some GARBAGE.. as my tube is a 90-100 gram dry nug tube.. grinded up.. not packed tooo hard.. so as to not fuck up any of this amazingly crystally and stinky buds.. but how much am i looking at my tube holding if it holds 100 grams dry grinded . how much bud should i freeze fresh frozen.

 

[Sirdabsalot46n2]

Great thread!
I've only recently heard of the LiveResin extraction method.

Thank you for sharing!

 

[HashoftheTitans]

With this batch it was clipped directly off of the plant onto dry ice. I did the soak method because at those low temperatures you need more contact time for the butane to work its magic. I soaked it for a couple hours on dry ice and then filtered off the waxes. If I was growing, I would do all my nug runs this way and make shatter from the dry sugar trim. It's also nice not having to deal with any drying or much trimming. The buzz may not be as strong but I knew that would be the case and I'm more concerned with the flavor for this type of extract. When I make more I will probably dab it with shatter so I get the flavor and the effect that I'm looking for. Overall, I'm very pleased with how it turned out and I'm itching to try it again and do some tweaking to the process. One of my favorite things about this stuff is the reaction on friends' faces after they smell/see it.

 

[Sextracts]

how long did you freeze before extraction

 

[HashoftheTitans]

how long did you freeze before extraction

I froze the lighter colored extract for about an hour or a little longer and about 30 minutes for the bright orange one. It doesn't take long with dry ice.