Gorilla Glue #4

[CARE giver]

Foxfarms legit. Im in the midwest if that helps.

Ive ran countless bags of ffof. Never lets me down.

 

[Hammerhead]

I have herd of the same. Some areas where getting hot batches. I find a lot of rocks but it's cheap and works good for me. Once Upon a time i use to mix up everything with amendments. I cant do that anymore. The Sunshine mix #4 is good for rooted cuts to over 10" pots according to the label + the Foxfarm and the coco is nutrient buffered. The mix is probably hotter then I think but I will never know.

 

[Cep]

FFOF has come with fungus gnats in my area, but hasn't been too hot. I like Sunshine #4 and then adding whatever else I need (usually N sources, dolomite and rock dusts):

It's better to have a starting soil soil source lacking imo. For example theres an analysis of TGA supersoil in my album that has stupid high levels of N, K, S, Iron, etc. If you overload soil like that you're going to have uptake issues.

Also, when I was in coco I never went above 1.2-3 EC either. It's weird hearing such high numbers from others bc if I went any higher I'd get burn.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

Frosty ..... not bustin yer balls brutha , but you've made this mistake before . i think you mean 2.0 EC ..... 1.0 is 500 ppm on the 500 scale or tds scale & 700 ppm on the 700 scale . 2.0 is 1000 ppm on the 500 scale . 1400 on the 700 scale .
i know we've talked about it before & you & I feed about the same ..... never over 1000 .

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What PPM scale is your nutrient formula referring to?

Manufacturer Scale
Advanced Nutrients 700 scale
Botanicare 700 scale
CES/Cutting Edge Solutions 500 scale
Dutch Master 500 scale
FoxFarm 700 scale using dechlorinated tap water
General Hydroponics 500 scale using reverse osmosis water
General Organics 500 scale using reverse osmosis water
House & Garden 700 scale
Humboldt Nutrients 500 scale
Rock Nutrients 700 scale
Technaflora 500 scale

 

[Hammerhead]

I dont use PPM for the flowering solution the EC is 1.0-1.3

For veg i have it on 500 scale @400 ppm. My mix is Bontanicare, FoxFarm and Shunshine mix #4. My nutrient is also Botanicare. I should change the veg meter to 700? I will think about it....... Na it's fine the way it is lol.

I'm thinking the soil mix is helping me. I'm sure dans uses COCO. I do remember that discussion with him..

 

[relic1981]

Getting 15% return on trim

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I feed my GG ladies @ 1.9-2.2 EC.

that looks bomb! so does your wax Get Mo. 15%return isnt bad at all and get mo you got an oz from half a lb of trim? thats well over 10 % return too. i thought it was a good yeilding hash strain. ive been smoking mostly oil for a minute now and i usually make wax but now im into shatter. it seems to give a more effective smoother hit. i need to step it up and get a vaccuum pum compressor to purge. as of now im just using heat. works well for small batches up to a oz but i want to be able to make more at once. i keep seeing theese pads people have that the oil dosnt stick too. neat things, i would love to get my hands on one of those instead of using parchment paper. i have a feeling ill be making alot of hash out of my gg4...

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

I dont use PPM for the flowering solution the EC is 1.0-1.3

For veg i have it on 500 scale @400 ppm. My mix is Bontanicare, FoxFarm and Shunshine mix #4. My nutrient is also Botanicare. I should change the veg meter to 700? I will think about it....... Na it's fine the way it is lol.

I'm thinking the soil mix is helping me. I'm sure dans uses COCO.

what botanicare products do you use and what other additions do you add? i use it too But lately ive been realizing my nutrient recipe is too strong and i should cut out boosters etc. ive been wondering about the whole ec not rgistering the organcs in pbp and if the reading is truly representitive of what im feeding them. thanks for the info pf.

 

[oceangrownkush]

I did the math, think I got around a 14% return on my trim/popcorn. Im way hapy with it, dabbing the shatter as I tyoe this truly an amazing producer for bho.... cant wait to see how my outdoor does.

 

[Hammerhead]

Its not accurate but I can get the same EC# on the meter so its consistently off the same amount.

This is everything I use for veg/flower

VEG
PBP grow + Beneficial Bio Root Bloom , sea green and Rootamentary + Hygrozyme.

Flower
PBP Bloom+ Beneficial Bio Amino Acid 55%, Kelp Logic, Guano Organic high in p, Compost Tea. Sometimes I squirt some Fire in the mix(heavy 16)

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

This works very well for my rooms.. I have always had a Mentality of less is more.
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I feel the same way.
I only feed my ladies 1x at week 4 flower. FFOF soil gives them all they need till then.
I used to load them up with all the FF Nutes and Tri-Pak of additives.
The ladies do sooo much better now that I barely feed them.

 

[DETStrainKey]

I use the Heavy 16 line it has never done me wrong..... In veg there really jumping...I like the cascade effect its really helping GG#4 in veg especially my moms they bounce right back after i chop the shit out of them..... cant wait until flowering.

 

[MrGoodBudz]

I love fire and prime. Great products that incorporated nicely into my mostly AN line. Prime is love in veg also.

 

[SirSmokalot]

Actually, Overgrow - I don't think the stretch or lateral branching comes from the chem in her - I think it is from the otherwise invisible choc. trip in her lineage...

Get Mo - wow - looking killer there, brother! Starting to look like it was built off some Deep Chunk...LOL.



dank.Frank

I agree reminds me of some nor cal goo x deep chunk I ran yrs back. Pretty weed

 

[Sadhu Sciences]

Its not accurate but I can get the same EC# on the meter so its consistently off the same amount.

This is everything I use for veg/flower

VEG
PBP grow + Beneficial Bio Root Bloom , sea green and Rootamentary + Hygrozyme.

Flower
PBP Bloom+ Beneficial Bio Amino Acid 55%, Kelp Logic, Guano Organic high in p, Compost Tea. Sometimes I squirt some Fire in the mix(heavy 16)

Hey , always love to see different PBP recipies. Keeping it basic is the way to go! Peace

 

[HUGE]

just to back up the stats here. I use Redigrow which has almost no charge.it does have worm castings, and I never run ec above 1.5, usually its 1.1,1.2 with sensi +bigbud. plus compost teas.

 

[papaduc]

very true but I believe less always gives me more in my experience . like you said it depends on what medium your growing in but in coco I don't go over 1.0 to 1.2 ec and have no problems, every time I have tried to push them with higher ec's all I get is smaller buds, herms ,reduced yields. I truly believe that's why a lot of people get so many herm problems is from over feeding. bottom line though is you have to read your plants. its not hard, just don't over due it and give them what they need and not what you think they need.

I totally agree with that too. I actually think overfeeding, along with under watering, is the most under estimated trigger factor for herms, and that light leaks are the most over estimated.

I wonder how many growers scour their tents for tiny pin pricks when they've got herms... when their plants have been waxy green and tip burned their whole life.

I'm in coco and never go above 1.0 - 1.2 because there's no need.

People talk about "pushing" the plants. There's no such thing. A plant has a limit at which it's optimal feeding requirements are met. Above that is overfeeding, not pushing. The only thing you're pushing is the yield; downwards. How badly you overdo it determines whether your losses are noticeable or not. But I think a lot of people are pushing the numbers high and attributing good yields to that feeding strategy, unaware that they could lower their figures a lot and hit the same or better numbers.

On this grow I haven't gone above 1.0 and most feeds are at 0.8.
Most people can't get their head around those numbers and probably wouldn't be comfortable feeding at that strength and feeling like their plants were getting what they needed. It's a misconception that's become the norm.

 

[papaduc]

I have grown thousands of plants. I have never needed to use more then 1EC.

Again, same here. Every plant is the same. out of hundreds I've tried, none of them have needed any more.

i keep forgetting your nutes are organic .... & don't read the same on meters ..... my bad !!!
i know all to well how good it works for ya & you don't need to change a thing ! ..... it just seemed kinda low on the dosage compared to what i use , & thought maybe your meter was outa whack , but apples & oranges i guess lol

I'm using full chem nutes and no organics. My tap is 0.2 and I go to 1.0ec from that. Even on a chem nute line 1.0-1.2ec is as high as I ever need to go.

 

[Justis]

I've always fed light an have had great results. Every time I tried "pushing my plants" they did poorly.but I guess what ever irks for your program.

 

[pappy masonjar]

I popped 8 beans of a gg4 cross i made. GG4 x a sour diesel bagseed male.

yes, i said bag seed. But its probably the best male ive smelt/seen.
Stinks really hard even in veg. strong chem/sour smells.
beefy too.

I got 8/8 within 24 hours in paper towels.
All broke dirt the next day.
Vigourous like their momma

If your wondering why theres 12, its cause i popped them alongside 4 Big E OG fems from Obs.

 

[dank.frank]

Good luck pappy!!



dank.Frank