GMO cannabis

[Rinse]

What we can all learn from this is to take action now and start producing and storing our own seed, not just herb but food crops too, if you want to avoid gmos or being a monsanto seed slave that is.

All ABOUT THE New EU Seed Law:
http://www.realseeds.co.uk/seedlaw2.html

 

[guy fawkes]

If it were possible to do it for drug cannabis , it would be as an easily to patent clone rather than seed , and never released to the public.

Much more likely that the technique would be used on industrial hemp , for non food purposes to avoid any controversy and with far more potential profit worldwide.

Many sites state that GM food is banned in all Monsantos restaurants ,the truth is that only one ever did this as a sub contracted supplier , but its still promoted as gospel all over the net , the anti brigade are dishonest and clutch at straws in the absence of any real evidence to support their cause..



I don't believe in chemtrails , vaccination induced autism , 911 bullshit , David Iike or the tooth fairy , show me the science.
Geo engineering is a possible option for the future but I see no proof it is being used so far , like GM cannabis.

geo engineering is and has been in full effect for quite some time mate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8338737.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18817945

http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/366/1882/4007.long look at section iv, spraying from plane exhaust .. just saying.

as for 9/11 if you still think a bunch of muslims living in caves did it i reckon you should have closer look mate, i do agree david ike is a clown that gives all folk with these kind of views a bad name by tainting facts with his own brand of bullshit.

 

[SativaBreather]

geo engineering is and has been in full effect for quite some time mate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8338737.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18817945

http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/366/1882/4007.long
i do agree david ike is a clown that gives all folk with these kind of views a bad name by tainting it facts with his own brand of bullshit.

as foolmar well knows which is why he included him at the end of the list of real phenomena, icke is a disinformation twat

I'll say it again foolmar, educate yaself and read Seeds of Destruction, a superlative book on GMO, who funded it and why - and MASSIVELY documented so even clowns like yaself cant refute it

 

[foomar]

The first two links refer to small scale cloud seeding , not comparable to global engineering in any way.

The royalsociety link considers theoretical methods , none of which are in use.

Our studies have shown that the delivery of aerosols or their precursors, at least using our hypothetical aircraft, is a formidable task. For the conservative scenarios we have explored, it would take of the order of a million flights of 4-hour duration (2500 km) per year to deliver the nominal amount of aerosol (10 Tg particles yr−1=2.5 Tg S yr−1) needed to balance the warming associated with increasing greenhouse gas emissions. These numbers are still quite rough, and it is possible that up to four times as much sulphur might be required. We have not investigated the entire spectrum of delivery systems. The issues and methodology we have suggested may be relevant to other proposed delivery systems (artillery shells, balloons, hoses, other aircraft), although details will certainly be different. It may be possible to design more efficient methods for delivery, but all will require careful attention to detail and the difficulty of designing a system that produces particles of the right size over broad regions of the stratosphere should not be underestimated.

as for 9/11 if you still think a bunch of muslims living in caves did it i reckon you should have closer look mate

Funded by Saudis and trained in the USA , not exactly living in caves.

I have spent a considerable amount of time assessing the evidence.

The simple fact is that Americans ego cannot allow themselves to believe that a handful of martyrs could bring the country to its knees , and will go to any lengths to try and prove otherwise , no matter how convoluted and illogical the theories become.

 

[guy fawkes]

cloud seeding is geo engineering and its happening globally. as for your other views thats fine as you entitled to you own opinions but i think youll end up eating your words mate.. you only have to look up to see it

you highlight the million flights needed for the task but when you think there are about 15 or so million global flights per year it easy to fit it in

 

[foomar]

The million flights are for aircraft dedicated just to spraying aerosols at 60 000 feet , not possible using commercial flights at 30 000 feet.
Did you actually read the whole article ?

Don't confuse contrails with cloud seeding or geo engineering , totally different subjects.

 

[guy fawkes]

The million flights are for aircraft dedicated just to spraying aerosols at 60 000 feet , not possible using commercial flights at 30 000 feet.
Did you actually read the whole article ?

Don't confuse contrails with cloud seeding or geo engineering , totally different subjects.

geo engineering/cloud seeding are the same , any manipulation of the weather or climate is classed geo engineering.

the study dose not state the height needed only that its in the stratosphere and that can be anywere from 60.000ft at the equator and 25.000 near the poles so that leaves a good pit of play for commercial jets running 30-35.000ft over the areas inbetween (were most folk live) dosnt it.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

If you all do not stick to the thread which is "GMO Cannabis" I will go back and delete any/all posts off subject. At least try and remember GMO + Cannabis + Monsonto, even if it is just opinions?
Just trashing Monsanto is pretty boring, I don't like them, hardly anyone does.
If you want to trash just GMO or just Monsanto or GMO/Monsanto please go and make a new thread and do so.
But that does not mean there is any GMO Cannabis, being sold by them or anyone else, if you think there is, where is it?
-SamS

 

[Red Fang]

I think GMO is bad, don't get me wrong, but those that argue against it do so on emotional/ethical basis and not based on science fact. The truth is, there is very little evidence to support either side of the argument. I think no living organism, plant or otherwise, should be allowed to be patented. I think anything containing gmo's should be labeled as such, and let individuals make up their mind what they want to support and what they don't. I think the whole GMO thing is a bad idea if non-gmo is just as good or safer, but the future may require the use of innovative science to combat global hunger, allow for earth organisms to thrive on Mars, and so on. I don't think we should lock any door and throw away the key. If done responsibly and without any corporations having a monopolistic advantage, it may not be a bad thing in all cases. If it is proven harmful to humans or the environment, it should be banned. If it is proven harmless, label it and give people a choice. I think some starving person would rather have some GMO bread than to starve to death because he cannot afford non-GMO bread that costs 2 or 3 times as much! I strongly believe non-GMO should be encouraged whenever possible and am more against than for it, but just saying saying something is fact without evidence does not make it so!

 

[guy fawkes]

If you all do not stick to the thread which is "GMO Cannabis" I will go back and delete any/all posts off subject. At least try and remember GMO + Cannabis + Monsonto, even if it is just opinions?
Just trashing Monsanto is pretty boring, I don't like them, hardly anyone does.
If you want to trash just GMO or just Monsanto or GMO/Monsanto please go and make a new thread and do so.
But that does not mean there is any GMO Cannabis, being sold by them or anyone else, if you think there is, where is it?
-SamS

http://bcseeds.com/genetically-modified-c-15.html

what do you think of this mate? probs bs ?!

then theres this

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Arti...nding-for-Genetically-Modified-Marijuana.aspx

 

[Bdog]

To ogrerun- I totally was not trying to steal you thread or topic I did not even see the conversation that you were having where it pertained. once again so sorry. the gmo thing was the first ever post I had put on here. just wanted to see what people were thinking. again so sorry I know how crazy it can be on these forums not trying to put you off.

Also guy fawkes that web site is crazy. I don't know how we are going to be able to the cannabis community for changing tides quickly. the claims about their GE cannabis strains are crazy. most people would probably turn toward that. sadly if that is the future of it (which could very well be) it would be hard to pass. stay strong homies and say no to GMO cannabis

 

[guy fawkes]

http://www.naturalnews.com/032858_genetically_modified_marijuana.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-raj-persaud/has-cannabis-been-secretly-modified-_b_1688684.html

makes you wonder were all these high thc strains are really coming/originated from dosnt it

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

http://bcseeds.com/genetically-modified-c-15.html

what do you think of this mate? probs bs ?!

then theres this

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Arti...nding-for-Genetically-Modified-Marijuana.aspx

It is BS plain and simple, both of them.
-SamS

 

[foomar]

At those prices they don't need to sell many , looks like a sucker trap to me.
Glowing reviews they wrote themselves and outrageous claims for yield and potency.
Does any one remember doggiesnuts from esoteric that sold for £1000 a ten pack some years ago ?

In order to see BC Seeds prices you must create an account with them and give them your address and phone number. I almost had a stroke when I saw how much they wanted for their seeds. BC Seeds is asking $20,000 for 10 Thai seeds. No fucking way

Lots is happening in this very young industry with new breeders and varieties popping up all the time as well as seedbanks. But I do know that I would NEVER step foot into BC Seeds site again — its a trap for unsuspecting newbies and hopeful growers.

You can’t accuse me of never ordering from BC Seeds. You can’t accuse me of not growing out the seed I ordered from them.

I HAVE ordered their seed, and I HAVE grown out their seed. And I now deserve the right to say…

STAY AWAY! The entire BCSeeds site is a lie. Nothing on the site is factual. Except for the prices — The Prices are crazy and that’s a fact.

And just because they SEND you seed doesn’t make everything peachy keen and kosher. 80% of the time you get a mystery strain, NOT the strain you you ordered and paid for. You won’t know it until you grow them out (if you’re experienced enough to know how the variety is supposed to grow/look). UNLESS you can’t grow them out because you get white, pithy seed that you KNOW are not viable.

After reading this whole list of reviews on BCSeeds, I’m thinking that the few people who have posted a good review and nothing but HAPPINESS with them are (in order or probability):
1. BCSeed people sneaking in and writing their own glowing reviews
2. People who’ve ordered and gotten their seeds, but have not grown them out.
3. Totally inexperienced newbs.
4. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer — Just plain dumb.

BCSEEDS.com is NOT to be trusted. Its a well-known fact.

When i saw this scam site was back up i had to write to warn all the newbs and uninformed. For your own sake please do your research and you will clearly see that BC SEEDS claims are completely rediculous. ASk yourself, if they have such fantastic strains why have they won zero awards? Why will no other seed banks carry their garbage seeds? Why is there no grow repors of their strains on reputable forums? No seeds are worth the absolutely insane prices they are asking. These people are crooks. Keep moving, they offer nothing but lies and disappointment

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

http://www.naturalnews.com/032858_genetically_modified_marijuana.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-raj-persaud/has-cannabis-been-secretly-modified-_b_1688684.html

makes you wonder were all these high thc strains are really coming/originated from dosnt it

Wow this does prove it??
Give me a break.
-SamS

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22211569

J Forensic Sci. 2012 May;57(3):718-21. doi: 10.1111/j.1556-4029.2011.02021.x. Epub 2011 Dec 28.
Investigations into the hypothesis of transgenic cannabis.
Cascini F.

 

[Classic Seeds]

seems crazy to me since most GMO's are engineered to live thru poisons being sprayed on them for the main reason to make them pretty and bug free through growth some other types of gene splicing has also been done but the bottom line is to poison the food you eat to the point normal natural plants would die from the overload of herbsides and pestsides monstanto could give a good fart about poisoning you but for commercial pot it makes no sense because it would be rejected for human consumption after testing .but you would think the same of corn syrups and the like but those do go into the food supply as additives so maybe poisoned exstracts would be allowed since we have such a screwed up government regulation system now they can poison us with exstracts they can not feed us as fresh produce .then for the hemp side its totally crazy AGAIN WHEN IT WILL GROW FINE WITH OUT ANY OF MONSANTOS OR DOW CHEMICALS HELP the people blame the individual companys for this shit when its archer daniels who owns all the companys that are a part of this poison corporation farming going on they are the ones who control it and market it without their selling and marketing of these crops Monsanto and all the rest would be out of business in no time aloha cls

 

[gaiusmarius]

roflmao, those are just ignorant folks who are comparing modern hybrids to land race strains. they call the hybrids genetically modified but thats bs, they are just crossed. as for the site selling genetically modified strains, not sure i trust that one little bit, i mean they claim a strain that grows 54 pounds per plant. we all know the gmo's don't increase yield that drastically like that anyway, so it has to be bs. which doesn't mean there isn't some gmo cannabis in some seed vaults or company labs that's waiting for the right time.

 

[SativaBreather]

seems crazy to me since most GMO's are engineered to live thru poisons being sprayed on them

worse they contain bt toxin to kill bugs that feed on em, so yeah pesticide infused food, nice and totally healthy too, that shit would never cause cancer..

 

[Thule]

What could they possibly hope to achieve by manipulating the genes of cannabis that can't be done by traditional means?

I can think of a few applications.

They have now found the genes that code for the production of THC. They could in theory create a plant that is true breeding for more than one cannabinoid. They could fix both THC and CBD for example, something that is to my understanding impossible by traditional means.

Now that they know which genes code for THC they don't even have to rely on cannabis to produce it. How about a eucalyptus tree full of THC? All they need is a motive, the technology is already there.