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World’s largest legal pot facility to open

RetroGrow

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It had to happen.......

"Finding that sketchy guy for a bag of weed in Washington Square Park could soon be as outdated as milking your own cow. Pot production is about to go industrial. Of course, you’ll have to head to Canada to take advantage of it.

CEN Biotech — a nutrition company best known for an amino acid supplement — is working on opening the “largest and most advanced” legal marijuana production facility in the world. The Ontario site will be able to grow 1.3 million pounds of pot from 50,000 plants — an operation that could produce $5 billion in sales per year when it starts producing in a few weeks after it passes government inspections. No more hiding grow lamps in closets: This $20 million facility will churn out pot like other factories churn out aspirin. And it has plans to expand to the US.

“The facility is done, it’s ready,” CEO Bill Chaaban says. “It’s laid out [like] a manufacturing facility for prescription drugs.”

The factory, which will house 50 different strains of cannabis, is legal thanks to recently changed medical marijuana laws in Canada that ended home growth of pot plants and required users to buy from large-scale commercial facilities being set up around the country. The demand for medical pot in Canada created a backlog that led to the creation of these new “super-grow” sites.

“Basically, what the system has become is de facto legalization,” Chaaban says. “We foresee the Canadian market from going from 40,000 patients to 500,000 in next two years.”
The plant will be run by a “dream team” of former law enforcement employees, lawyers and farmers.

But don’t go on a bong-buying spree just yet, America. Marijuana remains illegal on the federal level here. However, with medical marijuana programs rapidly moving forward in many states (including New York) and recreational legalization proving a hit in Colorado and Washington, that might not be the case for too much longer. The company is planning to expand operations to the United States and is eyeing Nevada to set up a US facility. But for now, it’s waiting for the federal government to act first.

“Being located in Canada and the treaties between US and Canada currently, we believe once it changes federally we can export to the United States and supply the market,” Chaaban says.

There’s no timeline on when that could happen, but attorney general — and admitted former pot smoker — Eric Holder has said he would work to reclassify pot. Currently it’s listed among the Schedule I drugs considered highly dangerous alongside heroin and ecstasy. And earlier this year, President Barack Obama told the New Yorker he thought marijuana was less harmful than alcohol. This from a man who smoked pot with his pals at his Hawaiian high school in a group they dubbed “Choom Gang,” according David Maraniss’ book “Barack Obama: The Story.”

http://nypost.com/2014/05/06/worlds-largest-legal-pot-facility-to-open-in-ontario/
 

RetroGrow

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If Canada does this, it will be only a matter of time before the U.S. gives in and joins the party. Everyone got their resumes ready? It's BS to let corporations take over and prohibit home growing. It was greedy corporations that demonized it to begin with, now they want to take over. I will be boycotting anything they produce.
 

dansbuds

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what do ya think all these southern tobacco companies are going to be growing once tobacco is labeled illegal . marlboro is already advertising packs of MJ cigs .
 

HidingInTheHaze

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marlboro is already advertising packs of MJ cigs .

I think that marlboro weed cigarette picture that was floating around the internet was from a satire website like the onion.

Fuck big business, I am so sick of big business crushing everything in its path and jerking the governments off to write the rules for them.
 

Cool Moe

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Fuck big business, I am so sick of big business crushing everything in its path and jerking the governments off to write the rules for them.

I agree fully with this statement, but at the same time I feel like there's gonna be room for both the big businesses and the micro growers. No way LEO is gonna have the time to root out all the small scale superb herb growers like the fine folks on this site. Big businesses will replace the cartel schwagg for the masses and I don't really have a problem with that. Smaller scale growers with the knowledge and primo strain collections will always have a market with the true aficionados. The cat's out of the bag and the seeds are in the vault. No way they can stop us now.
 

Sam_Skunkman

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Where do all of you buy your food? From big agriculture?
If you buy cigarettes who makes them? Big tobacco?
If you drink alcohol, who made it?
If you wear clothing, who makes and sells them?
If you own a home, who built it?
If you drive a car, who built it?
If you have ever flown in a jet, who made it?
Who supplies the gas, electrical, to most families?
If you want Cannabis to be "normal" like food, clothing, and most other commodities, then why shouldn't Cannabis be grown by big agriculture?
I want to be able to grow my own for personal use, I do not care if most of America wants to go to the seven/eleven and pick up some chips, ice cream, beer, and Cannabis pre-rolled. It should be their right to do so if they wish.
I understand why people that make their income from Cannabis cultivation do not want this to happen.
I even understand the fears of many thinking that the quality may go down.
As long as I can grow my own for personal use, that does not scare me at all.
If the market is happy with mediocre Cannabis then that is what they will get. If they demand high quality then at least some will be high quality.
Until people insist that they want only the highest quality, they will not get it.
At this point there is not even agreement on what is the highest quality? Indoor grown under lights? Grown with chemical fertilizers? WLD/Indicas? NLD/Sativas? a WLD/NLD hybrid? Herbal Cannabis? Resin, dry sift or water sifted? Extracts like dabs?
-SamS
 

leaffan

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There is a lot of bull shit in those CEN Biotech news releases. They have greatly over stated things in the past. Canada has an "industrial" licensed producer program (MMPR) governed by the Federal Government in place. Yes some operations are massive (300ksqft), but others are small (10ksqft). Cannimed or Prarie Plant Systems is one of these giants, and they're in Michigan too.
The product can only be shipped to either the patient or their doctor. No dispensaries or store fronts allowed. This new program came into effect April 1. ( ya I know, april's fools). The old program (MMAR) which was a patient home grow program was repealed at the same time.
Having said that...
There are dispensaries operating in BC.
There are compassion clubs everywhere.
Local police in BC have said they don't plan on arresting anyone.
The police chief union would rather hand out tickets than arrest people.

The Courts have recently (MARCH 21) told the government that they were violating the Charter of Rights ( like your constitution) and have put a "stay" on the patient MMAR program.
In Canada there has been an ongoing battle between the Conservative government and the courts. There is a real possibility of full legalization at the end of 2015 if the Liberals win the next election.

I think we will eventually end up with two programs....an industrial one and an individual user based one, similar to what Colorado has in place.

Just thought I'd share some Canuck insight with you...
 

MIway

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Where do all of you buy your food? From big agriculture?
If you buy cigarettes who makes them? Big tobacco?
If you drink alcohol, who made it?
If you wear clothing, who makes and sells them?
If you own a home, who built it?
If you drive a car, who built it?
If you have ever flown in a jet, who made it?
Who supplies the gas, electrical, to most families?
If you want Cannabis to be "normal" like food, clothing, and most other commodities, then why shouldn't Cannabis be grown by big agriculture?
I want to be able to grow my own for personal use, I do not care if most of America wants to go to the seven/eleven and pick up some chips, ice cream, beer, and Cannabis pre-rolled. It should be their right to do so if they wish.
I understand why people that make their income from Cannabis cultivation do not want this to happen.
I even understand the fears of many thinking that the quality may go down.
As long as I can grow my own for personal use, that does not scare me at all.
If the market is happy with mediocre Cannabis then that is what they will get. If they demand high quality then at least some will be high quality.
Until people insist that they want only the highest quality, they will not get it.
At this point there is not even agreement on what is the highest quality? Indoor grown under lights? Grown with chemical fertilizers? WLD/Indicas? NLD/Sativas? a WLD/NLD hybrid? Herbal Cannabis? Resin, dry sift or water sifted? Extracts like dabs?
-SamS


we've already got insight on how this is shaping up... no personal home grows in the us. its already on the books in medical states, its progressing more & more to limit who can grow/sell legally. it will likely remain a felony for most, and we see pressure from dispensaries/commercial growers to take away patient/cg rights already established.

if they had the means to limit competition... money & political channels... wouldnt they be stupid to not limit production & distribution?

will quality be there?

yes, as defined by large commercial production... good enough to sell enough to increase shareholder value enough.
 
Several other public companies coming on board in Canada on the daily. Check out Tilray Corp. and Tweed Inc. They are on the same push! Homegrows are disappearing here in CO as well. Production has increased , prices have dropped. States are opening up their laws. Here we go BIG CORP.. Capitalism at its finest. I feel as though Cannabis is sacred in its own way, and will evolve with or without us!
 

Jbomber79

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I hope you are correct and that the cream of the crop rises to the top and the market place weeds out the good/bad/and ugly and some sorta evolution takes place.. If a microbrew can pop up shop this many years after big beer businesses have been in place microgrowers can do the same.. IMHO every thing micro is better when coming to food supply etc.. but that shit doesn't feed the world..
Also-I'm not sure we have even come close to the demand for cannabis and if anything I say is true believe this you can never have too much herb!
 

Sam_Skunkman

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we've already got insight on how this is shaping up... no personal home grows in the us.

That is not true, maybe it will come to be but that is not how it is now.

its already on the books in medical states, its progressing more & more to limit who can grow/sell legally. it will likely remain a felony for most, and we see pressure from dispensaries/commercial growers to take away patient/cg rights already established.

I believe you think so.

if they had the means to limit competition... money & political channels... wouldnt they be stupid to not limit production & distribution?

If it is legal then like alcohol then no one can make beer or wine at home for personal use? Oh, I mean they can. All states allow about 100 gallons per person of beer and wine a bit less. The big alcohol companies have money & political channels were they just stupid or is it the voters that allowed personal production for home use?
Maybe at the most some states will ban home production, so what? Life is an intelligence test, if you do not move to where you can be free and grow at home, you flunked....
-SamS




yes, as defined by large commercial production... good enough to sell enough to increase shareholder value enough.

So grow it at home.
 

SeedsOfFreedom

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Funny their "dream team" of workers include former law enforcement. I wouldn't buy pot from a cop or someone with a cop working for them, would you? hahahah
 

Sam_Skunkman

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Funny their "dream team" of workers include former law enforcement. I wouldn't buy pot from a cop or someone with a cop working for them, would you? hahahah

You should imagine legal pot, who cares who grows it if they do a good job? I always thought the perfect place to grow indoors would be in prisons converted to grows by the guards that used to work there. Then they will have an honest job, instead of living off the industrial military prison police complex, by arresting and guarding pot prisoners in jail.
I want change, and the faster the better.
What is better, pigs busting Cannabis people or expigs growing Cannabis for everyone? I will take the latter, kind of like the main Bulldog coffee shop in Amsterdam on the Leidseplein in Amsterdam, it used to be the area police station, now it has found a better use. Rehabilitated & we can do the same with the pigs.
-SamS
 

SeedsOfFreedom

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You should imagine legal pot, who cares who grows it if they do a good job? I always thought the perfect place to grow indoors would be in prisons converted to grows by the guards that used to work there. Then they will have an honest job, instead of living off the industrial military prison police complex, by arresting and guarding pot prisoners in jail.
I want change, and the faster the better.
What is better, pigs busting Cannabis people or expigs growing Cannabis for everyone? I will take the latter, kind of like the main Bulldog coffee shop in Amsterdam on the Leidseplein in Amsterdam, it used to be the area police station, now it has found a better use. Rehabilitated & we can do the same with the pigs.
-SamS

You are right its better than busting people, but I would like to see cops working harder jobs(even stay as cops). Cannabis is such an interesting career for people who love it, these guys don't love anything about Cannabis, they are just after money.
I think really, to be honest, seeing pigs involved in something like this while I do my best to get my Cannabis business going(and work a lame day job) makes me jealous! Hhahhahah I guess I am sensitive.
I like the prison grow idea a lot. That plan might be very feasible once the US stops putting so many people in cages. They have some pretty big facilities, what a grow you could have...
 

HidingInTheHaze

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Where do all of you buy your food?


Yes sam we all know you love big business. And while big business has been on a quest to control everything they have stomped out everything its path. What used to be 10 smaller stores is now 1 walmart, hardware stores disappeared to make way for home depots.

Just because thats the way it is, doesn't mean it's the way it should be or the way people want it. Me personally, if given a choice I choose not to support big business, the wealth should be spread around. If you spend your money locally it stays in your local economy, if you spend your money supporting these huge corporations your money leaves and goes into the bank accounts of egotistical greedy people that don't give a shit.

The average man cannot compete with these millionaires, they have the power and influence to write the rules for themselves.


Spare me your love for big business, because frankly I'm sick of reading it.
 

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