So very true. I'm not looking to win the cannabis cup though just weight.
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true 6 week strains?
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So very true. I'm not looking to win the cannabis cup though just weight.
try looking thru BOGs gear he had some early finishers like boggle gum i think
theres 3 strain that are listed at 42 -50 days
theres 3 strain that are listed at 42 -50 days
i have heard people cutting down AOTA at 6 weeks but like someone said above if someone claims to have a 6 week strain its either marketing bs or its a crappy strain. aota isnt my favorite strain to begin with so cutting it early only makes it less flavourful and weaker in potency. aoto taken to 8 weeks can be decent as far as the buzz goes but imho the flavor should be way better. but again it isnt my favorite by any means and ive only worked with it for a few runs before culling it.
Shiva Blaster
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If you are looking for weight, then looking for a 6 weeks strain is not the way to go about it, as even if there was anything legitimately ready in 6 weeks (there is not), it wouldn't have the time to product the weight of a normal 8 week strain. I know some growers in here are listing breeder-listed flower times, but we all know those are BS and you can generally add at least a week to whatever the breeder claims.
A 6 week strain would be for someone that just wants to get in and out fast, it doesn't make any real sense for a perpetual grower.......you are better off to go the extra week or two for the extra yield. As far as yields vs harvest times go, there are plenty of side-by side grows available (and I have done them myself) that have shown that plants pack on anywhere between 10-30% of their total dry weight in the final 2 weeks. If you are pulling plants at 7 weeks, you are just robbing from yourself IMO.....I've been growing a long time and have never taken anything before 56 days, because I haven't had a single plant or strain that was ripe before then. If you are pulling at 7 weeks, you've got clear trichomes (based on every one of my plants that I have scoped at 7 weeks) and so you are also sacrificing potency. As far as taste and flavour go, I've had many plants completely change their smell in the last week or so, and have plants that didn't smell at all until like day 60 and then WHAM! Terpenoids take time to develop and mature, and you are also robbing yourself on that front by picking early.
No one said anything about Cannabis Cups, but your product represents your skills as a grower, why would you want to pump out prematurely harvested, under-developed buds? I've never understand the "I only care about weight" approach as it is a very simplistic and short-sighted way to look at it. With just a little more patience and attention to detail, you could have higher quality product that would demand a higher price (and demand for your product) and would greatly benefit you in the long run. Just my 2 cents.
Flowering times vary greatly from setup to setup, A friends shiskeberry cross finishes in 50 days with every hair orange/red. From one extreme room to another may have a variance of two weeks or greater in terms of flowering finish. Mind you highs and other things change much in fast flowering setups.
BT
BT
Wanna know a secret? Most strains are not finished until 9 weeks minimum despite what they are listed as. I have been growing a long time and I have found that you should let most strains go one week longer than suggested. The short times are a selling point, based off one phenotype The exceptions generally contain ruderalis.
BakedBandit
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Ae77 calio cut used to be 49 days for me. Wish I could find it again!
Greetings,
I have been growing for 45 years, and the quickest plant I ever grew was ripe in 5 weeks from the start of 12/12 light schedule. It had small, clean, airy, Sativa like buds. In all my years I have only grown between 5 and 10 truly world class plants that were on the level of Thai Stick, Oaxacan, Sumatran, and Jamiacan Ganga. This plant was one of them. Of all the plants I have lost, this cutting and a Thai strain are the two I would most want back.
In all honesty, I think that cutting I had might have been an auto-flowering strain. I cringe at the idea of people breeding with auto-flowering plants. But... can't argue with success. It tasted like crap though. Grass clippings would be the best description, but the high was clear, clean, energetic, and powerfully trippy. Paranoia as you rushed to the peak high, about 30 minutes after smoking, was the only negative trait to the high. It had a 4 to 6 hour high.
It was a great producer. I would have never thought so due to the small and sparse buds. I penciled it out by dividing harvest weight by watt hours. It was called Trainwreck, but the guy who gave it to me made a strenuous point that it was not the famous Arcata Trainwreck. It was a nickname due to the intense high.
I had another strain called Seeing God. It was ripe by the second to third week in September at 42 degrees north. I never grew that indoors, but I'd guess that was really fast also. It started to show flowering at about August 1, like most other outdoor strains in my area. It was very good weed, but not quite world class. It tasted great, real spicy/peppery. It may have been the top 2 or 3 best tasting strain I ever grew. I would love to have that one back also, just for the early ripening and no couch-lock genetics. It was not auto-flowering, and would be great for breeding with world class tropical or subtropical Sativas.
True Stories,
ThaiBliss
I have been growing for 45 years, and the quickest plant I ever grew was ripe in 5 weeks from the start of 12/12 light schedule. It had small, clean, airy, Sativa like buds. In all my years I have only grown between 5 and 10 truly world class plants that were on the level of Thai Stick, Oaxacan, Sumatran, and Jamiacan Ganga. This plant was one of them. Of all the plants I have lost, this cutting and a Thai strain are the two I would most want back.
In all honesty, I think that cutting I had might have been an auto-flowering strain. I cringe at the idea of people breeding with auto-flowering plants. But... can't argue with success. It tasted like crap though. Grass clippings would be the best description, but the high was clear, clean, energetic, and powerfully trippy. Paranoia as you rushed to the peak high, about 30 minutes after smoking, was the only negative trait to the high. It had a 4 to 6 hour high.
It was a great producer. I would have never thought so due to the small and sparse buds. I penciled it out by dividing harvest weight by watt hours. It was called Trainwreck, but the guy who gave it to me made a strenuous point that it was not the famous Arcata Trainwreck. It was a nickname due to the intense high.
I had another strain called Seeing God. It was ripe by the second to third week in September at 42 degrees north. I never grew that indoors, but I'd guess that was really fast also. It started to show flowering at about August 1, like most other outdoor strains in my area. It was very good weed, but not quite world class. It tasted great, real spicy/peppery. It may have been the top 2 or 3 best tasting strain I ever grew. I would love to have that one back also, just for the early ripening and no couch-lock genetics. It was not auto-flowering, and would be great for breeding with world class tropical or subtropical Sativas.
True Stories,
ThaiBliss
rhinoman 1
Active member
It still has fast pheno's not 6 weeks though. 8 week's would be more accurate.
Pineapple Skunk
Pineapple Skunk
Here are some shots of Pineapple Skunk on day 40 of 11/13. She is nice smoke anywhere after 40 days(of 11/13), but gets more potent and lazy later on. Even on 12/12 this is a very fast strain. Cindy99 is also nearly as fast. I would even say PS and C99 are related. Its noticable in the growth and the smoke.
As for trying to get quick crop cycles, consider shortening your light cycle. 11 hours of light or less a day will really encourage the plants to finish quickly.
Pineapple Skunk
Here are some shots of Pineapple Skunk on day 40 of 11/13. She is nice smoke anywhere after 40 days(of 11/13), but gets more potent and lazy later on. Even on 12/12 this is a very fast strain. Cindy99 is also nearly as fast. I would even say PS and C99 are related. Its noticable in the growth and the smoke.
As for trying to get quick crop cycles, consider shortening your light cycle. 11 hours of light or less a day will really encourage the plants to finish quickly.
JointOperation
Active member
in my opinion.. the people who are usually bitching about not being able to pull off good harvests yield wise.. are pulling early.. or giving nutes at the WRONG times.. and not maximizing its potential.. not ment to be SAID at ANYONE.. this is just a comment im making.. i see people on the forums bitching about yield.. and then u see there buds.. and there actually not even close to done....
that pineapple skunk looks good.. but me personally id let her go long to see whats up . before making a decision on only allowing it to go to a specific date.. or time frame.
me personally.. ill take a plant as far as i can.. just to see the potential of it.. especially.. alot of the strains i grow.. the smell starts to reallllly kick in the last 2 weeks or so .. only found a few so far that actually finish early.. i am running a clone of Pineapple Express that i traded for 7 months ago.. this is my second run..the first run i pulled when he told me to at 55.. and they looked done at 50.. turned out alright.. everyone really liked it.. then second run its now 66days and the yield and smell are like Double.. so.. looks like its going to 70-75 as long as the trichs dont start to go to amber.. i like as close to Fully Cloudy as i can.. so id rather a few amber.. then some clear....
that pineapple skunk looks good.. but me personally id let her go long to see whats up . before making a decision on only allowing it to go to a specific date.. or time frame.
me personally.. ill take a plant as far as i can.. just to see the potential of it.. especially.. alot of the strains i grow.. the smell starts to reallllly kick in the last 2 weeks or so .. only found a few so far that actually finish early.. i am running a clone of Pineapple Express that i traded for 7 months ago.. this is my second run..the first run i pulled when he told me to at 55.. and they looked done at 50.. turned out alright.. everyone really liked it.. then second run its now 66days and the yield and smell are like Double.. so.. looks like its going to 70-75 as long as the trichs dont start to go to amber.. i like as close to Fully Cloudy as i can.. so id rather a few amber.. then some clear....
Yeah you are right it could go longer. These were taken at day 40 just as a test, 40 day herb is hard to find. I would aim for day 55-60 of 11/13 most of the time with this plant.
JointOperation
Active member
believe me i wish there were strains that from 12/12 50 days there completely ripe.. but it doesnt happen.. wen i first started i grabbed thousands of dollars worth of seeds and 90% werent even close to finish by the flower times on the packaging.. so i grabbed a microscope and never looked back.. and i count days.. just to remind myself to start checking trichs at a certain times. but honestly.. most of the people put those flower times.. i found alot of the flower times on the package only match up if u count day 1 as the day after the stretch has stopped.. then they match up alot better with what they recommend.
puke berry is a fast one
I grew the original c-99 and her lemony sister Apollo-11. Those were some of the earliest finishers I have ever grown. Cindy was a solid 8 week strain, Apollo could be pulled at 7 weeks, but 8 was ideal. If your stuff is finishing earlier you are possibly over feeding it phosphorous. I basically always finish up with 11/13, and I think that is very important for every strain, but only the last week. Leave the strains longer and see how much better it is. You will be pleasantly surprised.
I use 12/12 sometimes, but 11/13 is my light cycle. I have a huge range of strains from SE Asian Sativas to Indicas. The Sativas are much better under 11/13, Indicas/hybrids 12/12, and since I enjoy Sativas more thats the light cycle. Yield is no issue for me. I am trying as many different plants as I can, and 11/13 speeds it up slightly. If I where testing seeds to sell, I know I would use 12/12 because most are.
As for leaving stuff longer, I do , but often have numerous clones of each type and will actually experiment. I know everyone says trichomes are key to harvest, but samples are the only real test. For every keeper I have, I try different dates in a window of almost 20 days, and some strains are better(tastier, more uplifting) early, and some are better (tastier,more potent) late.
Superdawg i believe is a 55 day cut.
