Gypsum not enough? I've never mixed in Epsom salt...@ what ratio? Can you water with it, without killing microbes? Thanks.
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Tutorial Organics for Beginners
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Gypsum not enough? I've never mixed in Epsom salt...@ what ratio? Can you water with it, without killing microbes? Thanks.
I'm gonna put this out there just for the fuck of it. Not calling it fact, don't know if it makes sense.
Plants have no motherly instinct to reproduce. Seed is produced in response to bacterial and fungal needs. Seeds are another way of transferring energy back to the roots by way of the rhizosphere while seedlings increase the size of the rhizosphere. When seeds are not allowed, or when seeds are taken away everything is lost.
Plants have no motherly instinct to reproduce. Seed is produced in response to bacterial and fungal needs. Seeds are another way of transferring energy back to the roots by way of the rhizosphere while seedlings increase the size of the rhizosphere. When seeds are not allowed, or when seeds are taken away everything is lost.
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I'll use Epsom salts to help my yeast when fermenting.
Cheaper at the drug store then in at the garden shop.
Per label:
Don't be scared by the word salt.
Be scared of anything white.
I put all information as information not as a diagnosis, as I have no idea whats happening in your cyberspace. I can understand the suggestion for using RO water as far as diagnosing.
With max sulfur @ 0.289 grams/ dry gallon
.1289 grams sulfur/ 1 gram of Epsom
keeping accuracy to 3 places
0.289/.129 = 2.240 grams of Epsom salt maximum /dry gallon maximum
That would give you
2.240 x .099 = .222 grams of soluble magnesium
Without testing, I wouldn't go anywhere close to the maximum. I would cut the instructions in half.
See what Dank has to say. He's your mentor, I'm a sidetrack and beside, he needs to check my math.
Another disclaimer
The 0.289 grams of sulfur is in consideration of a furrow acre as if it were mixed into the total soil. When placed on top of the soil, I would refer back to the original per acre amount. Therefore
2.240 x (6.7/12) = 1.25 grams Epsom/sq.'(better check that one)
instructions call for
I'll use Epsom salts to help my yeast when fermenting.
Cheaper at the drug store then in at the garden shop.
Per label:
I use that much maybe once or twice a season as the mood hits me or if plants look shabby. Never had a problem with them in my soil.
Don't be scared by the word salt.
Be scared of anything white.
I put all information as information not as a diagnosis, as I have no idea whats happening in your cyberspace. I can understand the suggestion for using RO water as far as diagnosing.
With max sulfur @ 0.289 grams/ dry gallon
.1289 grams sulfur/ 1 gram of Epsom
keeping accuracy to 3 places
0.289/.129 = 2.240 grams of Epsom salt maximum /dry gallon maximum
That would give you
2.240 x .099 = .222 grams of soluble magnesium
Without testing, I wouldn't go anywhere close to the maximum. I would cut the instructions in half.
See what Dank has to say. He's your mentor, I'm a sidetrack and beside, he needs to check my math.
Another disclaimer
The 0.289 grams of sulfur is in consideration of a furrow acre as if it were mixed into the total soil. When placed on top of the soil, I would refer back to the original per acre amount. Therefore
2.240 x (6.7/12) = 1.25 grams Epsom/sq.'(better check that one)
instructions call for
or 1.089 grams/ sq.'
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I've mixed larger particle sulfur into a soil mix previously intended to last indefinitely. It is apparently processed (oxidized) slowly. The need for sulfur increases with the decrease in soil volume (IMO) and as crop residue is removed (leaf and old roots, etc). I believe that there are greater sulfur inputs to soil when using manure based composts, etc.
Sulfur is obviously a necessary component for plant tissue formation. These days I try to provide this element by including rock dust and multi-colored pea gravel in my soil mix (and manure based vermicompost). Not for everyone because it is very heavy. It is also experimental still.
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See what Dank has to say. He's your mentor, I'm a sidetrack and beside, he needs to check my math.
I can only be part of the equation - and I am certainly not always right. I read, read, read - and share what little I can make sense of - and hope if I've gotten a wrong concept, folks smarter than myself will come along and put me back on the right path...
It's a group effort round these parts, brother!
dank.Frank
Most defiantly my friend, I'm just trying to be careful not to send anybody off in 50 directions.
I can only be part of the equation - and I am certainly not always right. I read, read, read - and share what little I can make sense of - and hope if I've gotten a wrong concept, folks smarter than myself will come along and put me back on the right path...
It's a group effort round these parts, brother!
dank.Frank
I understand completely. I don't ever want to make anyone feel as if they have to walk on egg shells around me. I always make an effort to apologize to people the times I've gone off the deep end. A bit of humility can go a long way...but some people actually take pride in being ass holes...I've learned who those people are for the most part and I just do my best to avoid the conflicts they like to create...
Being right is of no value to me if it comes at the expense of belittling another...we have to lift each other up and encourage one another or else we create division and fan clubs - and I have no desire to be a swami...
Here to learn just as much as I am here to help. It's why I love forums. They allowed me to learn in a couple years what has taken some people a lifetime. I owe so much; the very least I can do is be civil.
dank.Frank
Being right is of no value to me if it comes at the expense of belittling another...we have to lift each other up and encourage one another or else we create division and fan clubs - and I have no desire to be a swami...
Here to learn just as much as I am here to help. It's why I love forums. They allowed me to learn in a couple years what has taken some people a lifetime. I owe so much; the very least I can do is be civil.
dank.Frank
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D frank I have used a version of your recipe since 2011 when I saw it first....maybe even 2010.
I think it was you that turned me onto the pH stable oyster, crab, and doolmite. The pH stabilizer buffering buffet I call it.
lol...WHAT'D YOU CALL ME!!!!...lol 
dank.Frank
dank.Frank
I have about 2 gallons of extra mix#1. It has been sitting in a bin for about 6 weeks. I have stirred 2-3 times during this time. It has sat in the garage the entire time in some pretty cold weather. Can I use it for new grow? I thought I may add some liquid karma and let it cook 2 more weeks. Any thoughts?
Should be fine as it is. If it was too cold - then soil activity slows and if very cold, can come to a halt - but I don't think BurnOne ever stated that composting the soils was a necessity on the mixes listed at the beginning of this thread.
That isn't to say they don't benefit from doing so - just that it isn't a necessity.
dank.Frank
That isn't to say they don't benefit from doing so - just that it isn't a necessity.
dank.Frank
I can't forget to add the dry molasses and rice flour.
Dry molasses is one of those things I will not grow without. I love what it does to the soil. Stockade brand is a good one because of the content and source of the sugar.
Rice flour, supports and stimulates fungal growth...but use it very sparingly. It's one of those things where too much is a bad thing and a little goes a long way.
dank.Frank
Rice flour, supports and stimulates fungal growth...but use it very sparingly. It's one of those things where too much is a bad thing and a little goes a long way.
dank.Frank
So my recent conclusions on organic growing is one a plant is in a pot for a while it uses up the organic matter and the plant starts to suffer and ph goes wacky...only way I've found to correct this is to repot into fresh soil.... feedings dont help.
So my question is what can I do if I want to keep them in the same size pot for 6 + months. I tried adding castings to the top but it molded any suggestions
So my question is what can I do if I want to keep them in the same size pot for 6 + months. I tried adding castings to the top but it molded any suggestions
Root pruning. I have had the same moms in the same pots for the last 3 years. Organic soil and root pruning.
Exactly, Benny...
Take cuts or prune the mother back a bit - cut about 75% of the root mass off - and replant in fresh soil - bonsai techniques...
Works like a charm for keeping a plant around long term. I've had mothers with stalks about the thickness of a quarter in 6" containers.
dank.Frank
Take cuts or prune the mother back a bit - cut about 75% of the root mass off - and replant in fresh soil - bonsai techniques...
Works like a charm for keeping a plant around long term. I've had mothers with stalks about the thickness of a quarter in 6" containers.
dank.Frank
