Re:Severe Depression

[SuperConductor]

Yes peace of mind is at a premium these days Red I but not just for depressed people. Thinking that you should always be content or happy or high or drunk is a trap. It's like a spirit level where the center is contentedness. Thing is noone tells us the spirit level is on a boat

 

[BillyBadGrower]

Black Domina from Sensi Seeds worked for me. it had a sedative effect. I was able to sit down still and watch a fim n stuff. it stopped my head ticking.

its hard for your brain to think about anything when all it can think is fuck me im stoned.

get out in the garden and have a splif in the sun.

 

[Easygrowing]

Easygrowing are you saying that the only way to get out of a depression is taking pills? I am pretty sure that's not the only method. Also, I am not saying that cannabis is the only natural medicine who can fix it...

Nope not at all Bmw-just noticed he wroted he had doing things since mittle 70 until now-thats hard for the body and mind and IF he or some are so deeply depressed sometimes-i cant see an big deal for trying gives pills an chance-instead of starting with-i will no pills take.Those person-not for talk bad about him or others-can have family and friends-can-who would like to be together with him-that can be difficult-IF he or i or some-are real depressed..social life is also important for feeeling health..

You can mabye-treat an depression or learn to live with those-some people are disponabel-wrong spelled-to be depressed-pills CAN mabye do it easyer for him-to stay in life--only that..
for some MJ can help-for others not.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

haha gingerale i dont doubt that MDMA helped you...sometimes a good trip does change your mentality. but i really dont think that is gonna apply to other people....i fucking hate MDMA that feeling is so fake and then the comedown hits and you more depressed than you were before! i know some folks who have used lots of that stuff and are weirded out and paranoid, but i also know others who are so gone off XTC that they remind me of modern day hippies..literally poppin 2-3 times a week for years and going raving, clubbing everynight....i know they are having fun but damn! their health down the road will be shit....

i think you have to find the root issues behind what makes you depressed and try to work on it....for me its fucked because i love growing cannabis but i always have paranoia about getting raided and catching a case, and all this other worst case scenario shit and it takes a toll on my mental health...smoking too much weed does NOT help this problem it makes it worse.

 

[GET MO]

Personally I think depression comes from a need of lifestyle change and too much inner focus. Join the peace core, go help some flood victoms, go see some parts of third world country where bodies are floating iin the river. You'll have a new appretiation for life.

 

[SOTF420]

I know it gets beat to death here on the forums.But sweet tooth is a very happy high.like a functional light sedation.I can't remember any time i was unhappy ,weird or other after smoking it.It really is the perfect everyday strain....Its my garunteed go to ,good time strain.

Sweet Tooth

Mental meds for a positive happy head

Look for the citrusy plants if any gingerale with the high grapefruity notes in the aroma, high in limonene likely and usually the more spiritually uplifting ones. Harvest when glands are clear just going cloudy, once they go amber it gets more sleepy and sedating. Be careful though some Blockhead phenos are very racy and can cause anxiety. Being F2's though you will likely find some very Swt leaning plants but the opposite could also hold true since the mother was a racy african Sativa called P19. Best bet is to get some pure Sweet Tooth but half is certainly better than none.

I would rather be looking for Swt in an LUI cross though personally than in BH, again it can be very racy and cause anxiety and panic attacks but a Swt leaning plant should be a safe bet

Much love.

 

[igrowone]

this topic has been discussed in many other threads, but each thread has value(imho)
plenty of us suffer from the depression beast, and we're looking for what we can find, anything that can help, even if it's just a little
i will repeat what seems to be the current clinical opinion
that the current anti depressants do not seem to provide long term improvement in those with mild to moderate symptoms
severe depression is another story, but severe is pretty freaky, you're very close to the edge
i considered anti depressants a while back, until i read up on what they offer, some seem to get some relief but too many downsides from what i've seen

 

[Buddle]

^^^^^ EXACTLY..Anyone that has suffered from severe clinical depression would NEVER make a comment implying "pull yourself up by your boot straps,.Take a hike in the country, change your diet, and you'll be on the road to recovery. In fact its so naïve it pisses me off. Igrowone I knew immediately after reading your post that you have experienced true depression. "On the edge" is how I often feel. a lot of energy is spent wondering when this current cycle your in is going to change and will it be so deep I won't be able to pull out of it...and I'm not a worrier.. getting the right meds can be a frustrating process.i had horrible nightmares from a bunch of them..But when you get one that works you wonder how you ever survived without it..lol..So when someone implies that lifestyle is the root of my illness I know instantly that they have no clue..

 

[Vash]

Damn, that must have been one hell of a depression. Never heard another peep out of the OP since the first post, and that was a while back

 

[bushweed]

this topic has been discussed in many other threads, but each thread has value(imho)
plenty of us suffer from the depression beast, and we're looking for what we can find, anything that can help, even if it's just a little
i will repeat what seems to be the current clinical opinion
that the current anti depressants do not seem to provide long term improvement in those with mild to moderate symptoms
severe depression is another story, but severe is pretty freaky, you're very close to the edge
i considered anti depressants a while back, until i read up on what they offer, some seem to get some relief but too many downsides from what i've seen

I agree with your synopsis of the efficacy of pharmaceuticals for mild to moderate depression. I would however recommend a treatment plan of regular counselling i.e. talking to a qualified counsellor in a safe environment, coupled with Chinese herbal medicine, acupuncture, and meditation. While there is a reluctance that is literally sponsored by Big Pharma to mention the benefit of complementary alternatives in western medical orthodoxy, there is a swathe of qualitative evidence to suggest that this holistic treatment approach provides greater potential for success than any other. No regime, however will be effective long term, if the patient doesn't perform regular exercise and integrate a healthy balanced diet that is high in fresh fruits, vegetables and legumes, and low in processed sugar, saturated fats, sodium and animal protein.

^^^^^ EXACTLY..Anyone that has suffered from severe clinical depression would NEVER make a comment implying "pull yourself up by your boot straps,.Take a hike in the country, change your diet, and you'll be on the road to recovery. In fact its so naïve it pisses me off. Igrowone I knew immediately after reading your post that you have experienced true depression. "On the edge" is how I often feel. a lot of energy is spent wondering when this current cycle your in is going to change and will it be so deep I won't be able to pull out of it...and I'm not a worrier.. getting the right meds can be a frustrating process.i had horrible nightmares from a bunch of them..But when you get one that works you wonder how you ever survived without it..lol..So when someone implies that lifestyle is the root of my illness I know instantly that they have no clue..

You are correct, the only treatment that is effective for severe episodes of depression is sedation, because any treatment that gives the severely depressed patient the energy to get out of bed, runs the risk of giving them enough energy to get out of bed and commit suicide. This is a little known, but important point in the treatment of severe depression.

As such ganja consumption is completely ineffective and potentially dangerous for anyone with severe depression, but maybe used holistically (no more than once per week) for those with mild symptoms if other treatment goals are being met. Ironically, taking a hike in the mountains (regular exercise) and changing your diet, may well be integral to the long term success for the treatment of depression, but absolutely does nothing for those gripped by episodes of severe depression.

The reasons for depression are manifold, but poor nutrition and lack of physical fitness is often seen to lead to the insecurities upon which depression is founded.

 

[Mr.Sparky]

Reserva privada Colorado has a strain named Lucy it is a 1:1 thc/cbd it has an amazing high and works wonderful for stess and anxiety.

 

[Rinse]

There are many forms of depression, some of the mild ones indeed are from a poor diet and lifestyle.

All depression has a cause, its not random.

Chronic depression for example can stem from repeated childhood trauma, this type often comes with anxiety, mood swings, panic attacks, PTSD and it is a worse form than what adults get from war.

No drug or herb can "cure" it, but can weed help? Depends on the individual.
It can heighten consciousness and help you work things out by yourself, be your own internal therapist,
I think Cherniak in one of his books called Thai weed like performing "mind surgery" on yourself.
Just having cannabinoids in the system for many helps, better sleep, better appetite, more feeling etc.

SSRIs will never help you work out your issues like that, they block shit out and make you comftably numb,
why do many people get anxiety from weed? Because it exposes shit.

 

[frankenstein2]

For me the strain that has the most anti-depressant effects is cheese. Not any of the cut's either. Really even a hybrid that is cheese dominant will do for me. Just gives me that warm fuzzy feeling of well being .Relaxes me more than any other strain.

I'm not the only one either. I have a buddy who reported the same effects I feel. He gave this report with no knowledge of how I felt about it.

As an added bonus the taste is hard to beat. I sure do like me a good tasting cheese/cheese hybrid.

 

[fyawomban365]

I recommend GGG Genetics the crosses using Joseph OG as the father. My grape stomper OG is the best herbs I have ever smoked. I have SAD and that and Super Lemon Haze are my go to strains. I don't think I could survive New England winters without these. Keep your head up.

 

[lost in a sea]

also we usually always think about the cannabinoid pathways because of what we do but the neurochemical imbalance that is what we perceive as depression of the mind is way more to do with seratonin, dopamine and DMT etc and they are massively important for regulating body not just the mind..

i have had physically caused clinical depression at least three times, in all cases i was run down severely and didn't see where i was taking myself each took half a year plus to recover from once i was aware. I learned that for a stable life good health of the body and mind has to be a proactive thing not retrospectivly "curing" things after the bodies systems have worn themselves down and the person has lost a chunk of their lives.

There are lots and lots of things that are really theraputic for mind and body and doing them with some regularity will increase your enjoyment of life and health of course, and then you are steps ahead of things going awry. Even just stretching your body properly once a day makes a huge huge difference if you don't do it regularly enough, it increases blood flow, frees endorphins, is good for the nervous system, joints/tendons/cartilidge etc and allows the better flow of what they call in the east chi energy, which is real and ive seen myself recently by burning some moxa plant and an infrared camera,, and why acupuncture works so freakishly well..

I was in such a poor mind/spiritual state that I allowed myself to get so ill both mentally and physically and before i knew it, because i was already in, i was falling apart in everyway,, i would call that the mind leading to depression because i was yearning for more in life, philosphically and spiritually and wasn't attaining it like my soul wanted, so literally losing the will to live.. since then i have learned that ironically people that label themselves scientists soley are some of the most unhealthy people around.

the mind is way way more powerful than the body.

And in this weird fucking world everyone just jumps out of bed and off to work lol,, rush rush rush, gotta rush.. people take no time anymore to smell the roses and listen to some nice music, relax more, take a bath with some lavender essential oils in there soaking into your poor body. less poison, more love..

really i look out my window at the beeping horns of the stressed out people all dashing around twice daily, at the same time, and i think to myself what are these people wasting their lives for ?

their kids? their retirement? their big houses? the fancy car? they are no good if the human has to lose it's soul to "enjoy" them.. it's fake, it's a mask and our societies are getting seriously depressed in general with no aspirations and leaders that clearly don't love us or work for us sadly. priorities, it's all about what priorities you hold on to imo.

lol i just noticed how old this thread is,, hope the guy has gotten over it by now

 

[Buddle]

I agree with your synopsis of the efficacy of pharmaceuticals for mild to moderate depression. I would however recommend a treatment plan of regular counselling i.e. talking to a qualified counsellor in a safe environment, coupled with Chinese herbal medicine, acupuncture, and meditation. While there is a reluctance that is literally sponsored by Big Pharma to mention the benefit of complementary alternatives in western medical orthodoxy, there is a swathe of qualitative evidence to suggest that this holistic treatment approach provides greater potential for success than any other. No regime, however will be effective long term, if the patient doesn't perform regular exercise and integrate a healthy balanced diet that is high in fresh fruits, vegetables and legumes, and low in processed sugar, saturated fats, sodium and animal protein.



You are correct, the only treatment that is effective for severe episodes of depression is sedation, because any treatment that gives the severely depressed patient the energy to get out of bed, runs the risk of giving them enough energy to get out of bed and commit suicide. This is a little known, but important point in the treatment of severe depression.

As such ganja consumption is completely ineffective and potentially dangerous for anyone with severe depression, but maybe used holistically (no more than once per week) for those with mild symptoms if other treatment goals are being met. Ironically, taking a hike in the mountains (regular exercise) and changing your diet, may well be integral to the long term success for the treatment of depression, but absolutely does nothing for those gripped by episodes of severe depression.

The reasons for depression are manifold, but poor nutrition and lack of physical fitness is often seen to lead to the insecurities upon which depression is founded.

anyone who is truly severely, clinically depressed isn't thinking about when they can smoke their next bowl..

 

[Green81]

Choose life,family,friends, get yourself out of your normal routine. Earn some money to enjoy life but by all means don't let money rule your life.

Give to others, help people more in need than yourself, your brain will want to correct itself, it is an amazing organ that is tied in with your soul. Remove negative people from your life if you have tried to emphasise with them and it had not worked.
Eastern medicines do work! Human culture from the east goes way back beyond Bronze Age. Human culture is a very very old thing.

G81