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h.h.

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The way to reduce calcium is with scant applications of agricultural sulfur, never more than 100 pounds elemental sulfur per acre per year.

Since the most frequently found cation in a soil with excess calcium will be calcium, most of that sulfur will form calcium sulfate (gypsum), which is soluble and leachable.

Solomon, Steve; Reinheimer, Erica (2012-12-04). The Intelligent Gardener: Growing Nutrient Dense Food (p. 165). New Society Publishers. Kindle Edition.

100 pounds/acre = 1.0413g/square foot
 

dank.frank

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Worty of note - when something is measured per acre, it is taken from the idea of a furrow slice - which is the volume of top soil going about 6-7" deep...

Containers that are deeper than this - can change the rates of application.

H.H. did the math knowing that an acre is 43,560 sq ft.

If there are 453.592 grams in a pound...and you are dealing with 100 pounds:

453.592 g per lb x 100 lbs per acre = 45,359.2 g per acre

From there you can divide to figure out grams per sq ft...

45,359.2 g per arce / 43,560 sq ft per acre

Leaving you with:

1.0413 grams per sq ft.

In case anyone was wondering how he manage to do that. ;)



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h.h.

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I thought about using the furrow acre measurement to come up with grams/cubic foot. Doing so would double the amount of sulfur and I don't know if that would be the correct dosage, so I left it in square feet. Better to err on the side of caution.
Considering the furrow acre, if that is correct, it would work out to .278 grams per gallon of soil.
Espoma acidifier. Follow directions.
http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/pdf/products/Esp_Soil_acidif.pdf
 

dank.frank

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Furrow slice is 24,394 cu. ft.

Given the depth of a plow blade being approximately 6.7 inches...

6.7 inches / 12 in = 0.56 ft.

43,560 sq ft x 0.56 ft = 24,393.6 cu ft



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24,393.6 cu' of soil per furrow acre x 6.429 dry gallons/cu' = 156826.454 dry gallons of soil per furrow acre
For 100% ag sulfur @
100 lb./ 156826.454 dry gallons of soil = 45359.237 grams/156826.454 dry gallons of soil = 0.289 grams/1 dry gallon of soil
That's the maximum according to Solomon. It may take far less.
For Espoma acidifier follow their directions. It's usually advisable to cut them in half.
As advised earlier, citric acid is supposed to help as well. I have citrus trees and somewhat alkaline water so that's mostly what I end up using.
 
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dank.frank

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Check that again.

6.4285 gallons per cu ft. ;)

I have to edit these types of post about 10 times ... lol - usually why I don't make them...but since it was asked a couple pages back, I suppose not everyone knows how to do these conversions...

And that can be especially frustrating when trying to figure out how to amend smaller batches of soil as a hobby grower...



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redclover

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More great info guys.

Anyway, I just did a PH probe test on some batches. My peat (that was hydrated with my hard water) came out to 5.5 PH, worm bin 6.5, 'faded' mix and cooked LOS 4.5?!?! What's going on here?
 

h.h.

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Check that again.

6.48 gallons per cu ft. ;)

I have to edit these types of post about 10 times ... lol - usually why I don't make them...but since it was asked a couple pages back, I suppose not everyone knows how to do these conversions...

And that can be especially frustrating when trying to figure out how to amend smaller batches of soil as a hobby grower...



dank.Frank
7.48052 gallons/cu.' liquid gallon 6.429 dry gallon
 
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h.h.

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More great info guys.

Anyway, I just did a PH probe test on some batches. My peat (that was hydrated with my hard water) came out to 5.5 PH, worm bin 6.5, 'faded' mix and cooked LOS 4.5?!?! What's going on here?

Magnesium deficiency? Epsom salts.
 

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Microbeman - I'm curious about what you have to say about elemental sulfur...

Redclover - I never got my soil tested, if you do I'd really like to see the results.
 

dank.frank

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7.48052 gallons/cu.' is right

Actually, buddy, it's not. There are 6.4285 DRY gallons per cubic foot.

7.4805 is the rate of LIQUID gallons per cubic foot.

They are measured differently.

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24,393.6 cu ft per acre x 6.43 gallons per cu ft =

156,850.848 gallons of soil per acre

100 lbs x 453.59237 gram per pound =

45,359.237 grams in 100 pounds

Then on to grams per gallon:

45,359.237 grams per acre / 156,850.848 gallons per acre =

0.289 grams per gallons soil

or

1 gram per 3.457 gallons of soil

or

1.859 grams per cubic foot of soil



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redclover

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Microbeman - I'm curious about what you have to say about elemental sulfur...

Redclover - I never got my soil tested, if you do I'd really like to see the results.

Still researching kits. I don't want a misleading one. Might just have to send samples to a lab from the looks of it.

Speaking of sulfer...what do you guys think about this product for chlorine/chloramine http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Prime.html I used it on my aquariums, and it never harmed my plants, fish, or bacteria culture.
 

h.h.

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Yeah that. Dry gallons. Duh. thank you.
I went back and edited.
Now your first post is wrong. It says 6.48.
Hah! Tricked ya.
Good job.
 

h.h.

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Still researching kits. I don't want a misleading one. Might just have to send samples to a lab from the looks of it.

Speaking of sulfer...what do you guys think about this product for chlorine/chloramine http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Prime.html I used it on my aquariums, and it never harmed my plants, fish, or bacteria culture.
A little organic material should take care of it. You can use a cheap activated carbon filter. Spray it in the air a little bit. A bit of lemon juice. Molasses. Let it stand 24 hours, aerate it 24 hours.
I've used that stuff. It didn't hurt but it's not really necessary.
 

redclover

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A little organic material should take care of it. You can use a cheap activated carbon filter. Spray it in the air a little bit. A bit of lemon juice. Molasses. Let it stand 24 hours, aerate it 24 hours.
I've used that stuff. It didn't hurt but it's not really necessary.

It's cheap, quick, and only takes 1 mL/5 gal. Little time saver.
 

h.h.

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Norm, You are correct. Of course chlorine kills microbes....it also evaporates from water....and of course if you are making compost tea you want non chlorinated water and you want to complex up the chloramines. Fortunately, it doesn't kill all.

I use well water for my plants and teas. If I had chlorine I would use a simple filter at the hose bib.

Water aerating from a hose loses most of its chlorine, by the way, as does letting it sit for a few hours or aerating it for a short time...

Teaming,

Jeff
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h.h.

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Still researching kits. I don't want a misleading one. Might just have to send samples to a lab from the looks of it.

A more urgent deficiency to remedy is sulphur. Sulphur works at surfaces and boundaries making things accessible. As such it is the catalyst for most of plant and soil chemistry. For example, sulphur is what peels the sticky, miserly magnesium lose from its bonding sites in the soil. Without sufficient sulphur the plant may not take up enough magnesium even if it is abundant in the soil. This deprives the plant of sufficient chlorophyll to make efficient use of sunshine, and then there is a shortage of sugary root exudates to feed nitrogen fixation

Soil: The need for Total Testing


Author:
Hugh Lovel


http://www.quantumagriculture.com/node/212
 
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