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any idea what bug this is?

Elements001

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Just found this crawling up top on a sugar leaf nest to a bud. Whatever it is I think I'm gonna shut everything down after harvest and wash everything..

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RetroGrow

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Predatory mites are good. Question is, what are they feeding on? Notice the dots on some of the "trichomes"? Are you using LEDs or something else that would cause that "reflection", as they resemble BM eggs? Hopefully it's just a reflection from whatever you used to take the pictures.
 

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It has to eat. If it's a predatory mite it needs some form of wildlife to eat. Or, if it's just a mite it's sucking juices from plant cells, and it it multiplying fast. Good luck. -granger
 

moses wellfleet

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It is possible that is a juvenile phytoseiulus persimilis, a predatory mite that feeds exclusively on red spider mites (tetranychus urticae). Go through your crop and look for evidence of other bugs...
 

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bigshrimp

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If it's just one, then its possible that its a soil mite wandering. They will do that some times.
 

Elements001

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Predatory mites are good. Question is, what are they feeding on? Notice the dots on some of the "trichomes"? Are you using LEDs or something else that would cause that "reflection", as they resemble BM eggs? Hopefully it's just a reflection from whatever you used to take the pictures.

Holy shit, yeah thank god it's the LED lights off the digital scope thing I have (very cheap). . This is actually the only bug I've seen in my grow other than some fungus gnats (definitely fungus gnats). I have been opening my window when the lights come on at night to help with temps, I have since ceased and ordered a 6" "bug screen" by hydrofarm to put on my venting to help prevent anything else.


It has to eat. If it's a predatory mite it needs some form of wildlife to eat. Or, if it's just a mite it's sucking juices from plant cells, and it it multiplying fast. Good luck. -granger

Definitely. I can't just sit on this one hoping it'll get better like I used to. I gotta get more proactive.


It is possible that is a juvenile phytoseiulus persimilis, a predatory mite that feeds exclusively on red spider mites (tetranychus urticae). Go through your crop and look for evidence of other bugs...

For sure man, thanks for the pic. I should've took more pictures of that one, but once I saw it was a bug I just threw it straight into the toilet. I feel bad if it was the good guy trying to help me out =\
Looking through all plants very thoroughly tonight.


If it's just one, then its possible that its a soil mite wandering. They will do that some times.

It looked like just the one. I went back and went over the tops of all the plants after I saw that one, but couldnt find anything else last night. I saw it with my naked eye at first. I've been so worried about bugs lately, and didnt think it was one till I put it under the scope. The little guy never moved on the plant, and stayed in his place while I cut the leaf and took it over to the scope. Wonder if he was dead or just scared.



My plants have been showing some signs of what looks like MG deficiency, or possibly even a bit of P burn, which is why I thought root aphid at first. However, it's really only happening badly to one particular strain, one other strain appeared slightly affected but recovered, and the other 2 strains I have look like nothing is wrong at all.

I'm just now realizing I have been really horrible at controlling my environments bug situations. When I got bugs in the past I just tried to ignore it, and it would get bad. So damn naive, even still now. There's this thought, "hey, its not bad. might even be a good guy. dont need to worry about it."

WRONG

I need to get on my bug control game. I gotta start looking up about preventive maintenance and procedures, rather than waiting for shit to hit the fan. I think I am gonna finish everything, probably keep the moms(hit them with avid if it is russet mites), and scrub the shit out of everything and disinfect.

-Gonna start making that at least an every 4-6 month routine as well I think.
-Going to try and seal up the tent better and make sure nothing can get in.
-Definitely taking showers and changing clothes in separate area before going near plants anymore.
-Looking into chemicals/organics to use while in veg and beginning of flower to make sure I dont get anything, or kill whatever gets in there.

Need more ideas, but man, fuck bugs. This shit is stressful and I love my garden as my stress free zone. It's my own fault, when I started this up again 5 months ago I was honestly thinking I'd just get lucky and not get bugs since I'm in a new clean place. There is no luck with these damn creatures, they're pretty much everywhere (whatever it is. Used to have spider mites bad 10 years ago).

At least I'm learning a really damn good lesson this time and hopefully I wont be making the same ignorant mistakes again.

Thanks everyone for the quick replies, I've been thinking about it all night and day. So glad I'm here, such a great place!

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Elements001

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Been going through the girls good for an hour and nothing yet. There are some discolorations on some leaves, but it isnt huge. I took a couple of shots. Hopefully all the spots arent eggs, because they're on every part of every leaf. Think it may be the stomata or whatever it called. not sure.

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This one I wasn't sure if maybe it was poop, or just some coco fragment.

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Elements001

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Hah, I think that little mite is "Stratiolaelaps scimitus (Hypoaspis miles)"
Its a fungus mite that eats fungus gnat and aphid larvae. Was wondering why my gnat problem was going down so fast with me doing so little. Pretty crazy stuff. Luck or something else?
 

moses wellfleet

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If it's just one, then its possible that its a soil mite wandering. They will do that some times.
Yes it does have the look of the soil dwelling mite hypoaspis miles. These are beneficial and should be allowed to remain in the crop, they help control thrips and fungus gnats in the soil!
 

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bigshrimp

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Those leaf shot pics are troubling, and that does look more like a canopy predator mite than a soil mite.

I'm no expert but i think that retrogrow and granger were right, look into broad mites.
 

Elements001

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if you suspect broad mites, look for symptoms of pistils (white hairs) turning brown prematurely!


Do they turn the same sort of brown that they would naturally towards the end, or is it more of a dark/blackish brown? I noticed on my last run my critical mass had some pistils that would turn like black and look dead, like they burnt off or something. It wasnt all over, just on one bud.
I also noticed that it would only happen on buds that were directly below a fan leaf blocking light from the bud top. When I saw that I figured it was just because they werent getting enough light, or had some bud rot or something that started on the pistils. It's actually gotten much better since I got the RH down and airflow up this run.

I think I did see a couple pistils that looked like that last night though. It wasnt the whole pistil, just the very tip of it that looked dead/burnt/darkbrown/black.

I'm thinking I gotta have something at this point, and it probably is BM from everything I've seen so far. Gonna go read some thread on em and look up and down the girls again. I'll post a pic if I see any more of the weird pistils.
 

stihgnobevoli

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it's some sort of mite or tick. it doesn't look harmful or else you would have noticed it and it's thousands of buddies crawling all over your plant. it's possibly a soil mite, they eat dead plant matter and help convert nitrogen and other good shit your plants need.
 

Elements001

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This is the top of a clone I took that's still in veg right now. Very small plant, only about 3 or 4 nodes. Not sure if these are trichomes, or eggs. They look like trichomes to me, but without the stalks. I really don't know. About to go through the ones in flower.

 

Elements001

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Damn, is that them, those tiny brownish spots? I noticed the critical mass had some pistils that were just laying on a leaf next to it, like they were chomped off or something. They only seem to go for the critical mass, and fuck they hit it hard if its them.

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Elements001

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heres a picture of the bud the pistils were on. Most every other bud has completely white pistils, and just a few buds have these orange ones, and the main cola had the hairs that like fell off/were bitten off.

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medicalmj

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Hah, I think that little mite is "Stratiolaelaps scimitus (Hypoaspis miles)"
Its a fungus mite that eats fungus gnat and aphid larvae. Was wondering why my gnat problem was going down so fast with me doing so little. Pretty crazy stuff. Luck or something else?

If it's not a crop pest mite (spider, broad, etc), which from the pics and info clearly is not, then you are most likely NOT going to ever get a positive ID (even those with PhD's in this often need to introduce a new species because soil mites are under studied). Don't worry though cause it is not a problem.

However, many mites can be viewed as an indicator of potential problems. Of the 2000+ species of soil mites in North America, 99.9% feed on decaying matter, fungus, mold or other forest litter. The other .1% are thought to be a pest of more bulbous root types.

So, this means that lots of soil mites means that you have an environment with lots of their food available. If that food source is Pythium you have a problem. But if you are feeding lots of organic teas than there may be many beneficials.
 

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