Growing just for oil/hash

[StoopheadFred]

So here's my question: say you want to grow JUST to harvest trichs in the form of hash/oil. What's stopping us from harvesting as soon as trichomes show?

I understand these trichs aren't at peak potency or flavor and yield would be down, but a lot of strains start frosting up in the first few weeks of flower...

 

[tokersmoke]

Some people who make concentrates do harvest a little earlier maybe 1-2 weeks earlier.

 

[aridbud]

What's stopping us from harvesting as soon as trichomes show?


Try it....and see what you think. I'm guessing you'll be disappointed when trichomes are not at their peak. It's kind of like eating a peach or any fruit/veggie that is not ripe. Tastes ok, but not great.

Much prefer peak flavor.

 

[StoopheadFred]

Hoping to hear from someone with actual experience doing this.

I can deal with a supposed loss in flavor if I can harvest at just 3-4 weeks into flower.

 

[Calimed]

I think it would matter if the trichs are clear, cloudy, or amber.

 

[StoopheadFred]

I'm feeling like all I'm going to get is people without experience telling me what they think without actual experience or facts to back it up.

I'll just have to do some experimenting. I'm getting a Dr bud style SOG going soon here so I'll have some plants to spare.

 

[growsjoe1]

...meh...so you want help and info on how to produce a immature, weak product.

I would think that your not going to find much help help from these parts of the woods.

Markets where either products are readily available are saturated with with good mature harvested glands made iinto wonderfully potent product.

..but hey some people make a living selling crap to suckers who have no experience with said products.

.....walks away shaking my head

 

[jayjayfrank]

i was hoping this was going to be about the viability of seeded and hermi plants being used for hash production but guess not. and this could only be for BHO or the like because micron sizes for under ripe glad heads wouldnt even be caught right? not something you could use for dry sift or wet wash extraction.

but dont moroccan hash plants get harvested in june?

 

[StoopheadFred]

Gs you've got me all wrong brotha! I'm a strictly personal grower, just had a thought pop in to my head and I figured since everything has been done before someone else would have experience with this.

I'm realizing now that my main question is going to be how greatly is oil yield reduced the earlier we harvest. Found a ton of threads on making early harvest hash, but nothing specifically about how yield was affected.

 

[StoopheadFred]

And yes I'm talking specifically about making BHO so I should be clear about that.

 

[growsjoe1]

Stoop, my apology for making the assumption...

Made BHO a few times...no experience with 2/3 week old flowering plants and extraction and frankly dont see the point

Mostly it's my love of tasty potent flowers that lead me to grow for myself and only occasional dab or smoke the hash that i make, using extracts as gifts for friends.

There is plenty of immature bud available around being sold...why not give that a go and see.

 

[tokersmoke]

You only get back out what you put in. Excuse me for being direct, obviously your knowledge is limited even the fastest finish strains don't finish fast enough.At 2 weeks most strains are just setting bud sites.I would slow down and read the bho explosion thread.

 

[StoopheadFred]

Toker slow ya roll. I have made BHO more than a handful of times and I am far from a rookie but I appreciate your concern. I'm fully aware of how developed plants are at 2 weeks, and I wasn't saying two weeks was my target harvest but really to strike a balance between oil yield and harvest time.

Thanks for being a dick though. Take yer trollin elsewhere holmes!

 

[Calimed]

Maybe to put this more bluntly. Early bud whether hash or flower isn't going to be as good as if it was run full term. Try it if you want but you will wish you waited a couple more weeks.

 

[StoopheadFred]

"not as good" is not a quantifiable trait to me. I don't dab, this shit all goes in my ecig that destroys all flavor anyways. You think early harvested hash doesn't get you high?

If I can harvest 2 or 3 weeks early and only lose 10% of yield while cutting 25-30% of the time required to flower that sounds like a win to me.

 

[tokersmoke]

If being a dick means sounding completely honest i am guilty.If you have made bho you would know the yield and potency of 2-3 week buds.Got any pics?

Even a small amount of research would have indicated that this would not work.To go through all the trouble to grow a plant and cull it at 2 weeks flowering would certainly be counterproductive and cost prohibitive.Not trolling just stating the painfully obvious...

 

[paladin420]

Yield will suck. And your product will be sub par.

If time is an issue pick a faster finishing strain.

 

[Hash Man]

"not as good" is not a quantifiable trait to me. I don't dab, this shit all goes in my ecig that destroys all flavor anyways. You think early harvested hash doesn't get you high?

If I can harvest 2 or 3 weeks early and only lose 10% of yield while cutting 25-30% of the time required to flower that sounds like a win to me.

If u know everything, why are you asking questions? Basically you wanna get the most weight with the most thca possible... Pick it early enough but not too early. I wait til i see the milky white appear in the trichome. At that point, there is a week or two to pick before thca degrades to thc.

 

[Calimed]

I guess it really depends on the experience you want from the high then. If you like the high from an early chop then go for it. Instead of not as good, I should've said different.

 

[StoopheadFred]

Time isn't an issue, I'm running a perpetual SOG and I'm trying to figure out how to maximize my oil yields.

Toker why would it make sense that since I've run tane I've ran 2-3 week old buds? Complete disconnect there. I've run sugar leaf and whole plants that were run full term. I'm sure I've got pictures of my runs somewhere, but I don't feel the need to prove anything to you. I'm here to ask a question and hopefully learn something from someone with experience in matter. I'm not claiming to be some massive oil producer by any means. I grow in Rubbermaid tubs for fucks sake.

The first responder in this thread said that many oil producers routinely harvest 1-2 weeks early. I'd like to hear more about that!

*EDIT* HA! You were the one that said that! So how do you not get where I'm coming from? I'm wondering how early harvest can be pushed.