Cytokinins

[VagPuncher]

Hello,

I was interested if any members could share the positive effects of cytokinins on marijuana.

I went to my grow store half a year ago and was told by every single old timer that I NEEDED to use Growth Plus/Nitrozyme.

These are employees that never up sell me because of the relationship I have with them (friends with many of them).

I went home and read up on it and decided to buy it and have been using it for about 6 months. I did notice some improved growth. Much thicker stalks. Increased branching and more bud sites.

Could these aforementioned improvements be because of the cytokinins or just me becoming better at growing this one particular strain?

Info on product:

http://www.agriorganics.com/soldagry.php

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Coconut water is one of the richest sources of Cytokinins found naturally and you want young coconuts aka Thai Coconuts

 

[mrrangz]

I went home and read up on it and decided to buy it and have been using it for about 6 months. I did notice some improved growth. Much thicker stalks. Increased branching and more bud sites.

this is what cytokinins do. it all depends at what stage your plant is in. if you apply cytokinins when the plant is focusing on roots. the plant will produce strong fat fuzzy interlazed roots.

also Nitrozyme is sea kelp. i would buy sea kelp from ebay and mix when your going to use and not make a concentrated batch as natural hormones found in kelp seem to loose their potency due to enzyme and light conditions.

 

[shaggyballs]

cytokinins used at high ppm during cloning will prevent callus from forming roots and tell it to make shoots.
I have seen this myself.
I had shoots growing in a easy cloner with a constant spray of extremely weak clonex liquid on them.
I don't recommend cytokinins for clones!

You need to start low with just established clones.
Cytokinins inhibit downward root growth.
As high levels of cytokinins over 1 PPM inhibit root growth.
At the correct levels of aprox. 0.1-1.0 PPM it will encourage lateral root growth while allowing for normal root length.
As they get bigger you give them small doses at a time like 0.1 PPM but slowly increase the ppm to no greater than 1 PPM in soil or in REZ.
That is if you are looking to optimize root growth.

But remember this is strain subjective.
Shorter plants need less so as to maintain fast growth while stretchier strains need more to slow growth just enough!

If you want to change the shape of the plant(shorten it) then higher PPM is required.
I don't recommend more than 100 PPM.
I apply small amounts in the rez. and then use frequent foliar sprays.
I you use a spray wait a few days if you don't like the results you can spray low doses more often to get the effect you are looking for.
Spray between 5-10 PPM every 3-4 days till desired results are achieved.

Bud cycle is another story I am still lost here.
At the right time and PPM it will give you faster bud set!
I know if you don't get the timing right and the ppm's right it will stop vertical growth and decrease yield especially when the plants have been topped!

These instructions are for using cytokinins by themselves.
I personally think they work better in a synergistic manner with auxin and brassinoloid,but then PPM must be recalculated.

Disclaimer
USUALLY

 

[Coconutz]

I was just searching for info on this last night when I came across a few pages that said that cytokinin increase stretch and should be avoided during stretch. I assume it would be best to avoid them just before the flip as well.
I was interested to find out if any of the rooting products contain them. I put some plants into smart pots a week before flip and they didnt seem to fill out as quickly as when they are allowed to spin around the pots. More efficient looking, but I decided to use a free sample Aptus rooting product that claims to be like RE, but smells more like Rhizotonic.
Anyone have any other info on rooting products increasing internode stretch as well as root stretching?
I was hoping using a root accelerator would focus more energy into the roots during stretch and reduce internode distance. But I dont think thats happening. I think Im actually noticing less stacking so far though.

 

[shaggyballs]

Cytokinins by themselves will not cause stretch! it will counter it( stop it)!!!!
BAP Spray between 5-10 PPM every 3-4 days till desired results are achieved.
That PPM will stack the inter-nodes a Little tighter and give you root growth.
If that won't do it go to 10-15 PPM.....give it a few days to a week to work or you will stunt them.

Above is a large post about cytokinins and rooting.......Please read it,it is very informative!
Look up....
Shag

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=221235

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=196121

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=263131

 

[shaggyballs]

Bump for
aus2canibasiva

 

[aus2canibasiva]

Cheers ill look into it soon.
PEACE.

 

[aus2canibasiva]

Cytokinin works wonders!

Cytokinin works wonders!

Hello,

I was interested if any members could share the positive effects of cytokinins on marijuana.

I went to my grow store half a year ago and was told by every single old timer that I NEEDED to use Growth Plus/Nitrozyme.

These are employees that never up sell me because of the relationship I have with them (friends with many of them).

I went home and read up on it and decided to buy it and have been using it for about 6 months. I did notice some improved growth. Much thicker stalks. Increased branching and more bud sites.

Could these aforementioned improvements be because of the cytokinins or just me becoming better at growing this one particular strain?

Info on product:

http://www.agriorganics.com/soldagry.php

It could be a bit of both your becoming a better grower by asking questions & furthering your experience, Iv'e had the same effects that you describe " improved growth. Much thicker stalks. Increased branching and more bud sites. by using a pure version of cytokinin.
There are alot of papers with proper cited sources that attest to the benefits of cytokinin.
But of course you used store bought products that had other additives i'm assuming that may have contributed to the positive effects that you have noticed.

Happy Growing.

Peace

 

[aus2canibasiva]

I was just searching for info on this last night when I came across a few pages that said that cytokinin increase stretch and should be avoided during stretch.

Cytokinin will let the plant continue to stretch in amounts smaller than 100 PPM & there will be an increase in flower size.

At amounts of 300 to 400 PPM there is stem elongation reduction.

1000 to 3000 PPM will cause plant to stop all upward growth & signal the plant to branch out laterally.

It must be pointed out that these figures are for tomatoes.
Cannabis could be more sensitive to the effects of Cytokinin so during the stretch period I would us 500 PPM to reduce or stop upward growth.

This is for anyone who will eventually need this info.