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Making a PGR Regimen for Medical Marijuana
The goal behind this thread is the create the best Plant Growth Regulator (PGR) regimen for my garden with the limited scientific prowess and knowledge i posses. Im going to attempt to keep it as simple as possible while also being scientific with my regimen building. The plan with each individual PGR is to start off with experiments to find optimum dosages for cannabis. Once the optimum dosage is quantified for the PGR, hopefully i add it to the regimen and then move on to the next PGR. I will not be testing PGR's that have potential toxicity issues. Some examples of these potentially toxic PGR's are the entire of PGR sub-class called the Growth Retardants (Paclobutrazol, Daminozide, Chlormequat Chloride etc).
I have many people to thank for the information that i have obtained. Thank you Spurr, OsWiZzLe/Storm Shadow, OldMan&theWeed and others for your knowledge and shared experience in the subject of medical marijuana friendly PGR's. ![]() I will continue to update this post as experimentation continues. Complications with Experimenting with Methyl DihydroJasomonate: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...30&postcount=9 https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...9&postcount=15 Triacontanol Experiment: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...5&postcount=19 Triacontanol Experiment Results: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...1&postcount=30 24-Epibrassinolide Experiment: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...7&postcount=35 https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...3&postcount=37 24-Epibrassinolide Experiment Results: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...1&postcount=49 |
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one of the first two experiments i will be doing will be involving Triacontanol.
Here's some useful PDF's on triacontanol for anyone who has an interest in the subject. I have at least 2 dozen more studies on TRIA, at least 5 just on micro-propagation. I can upload more if anyone requests. Quote:
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TRIACONTANOL INDUCED CHANGES IN GROWTH, YIELD AND QUALITY OF TOMATO(slighly abridged)
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A pot experiment was conducted to study the effect of foliar spray of plant growth regulator triacontanol – a naturally occurring long-chain aliphatic alcohol – on growth, yield and quality parameters of two varieties (Hyb-SC-3 and Hyb-Himalata) of tomato (Lycopersicon esculentum Mill). Plants were sprayed twice with 0, 0.25, 0.5, 1.0 and 2.0 ppm aqueous triacontanol. Increasing levels of the growth regulator up to 1.00 ppm enhanced most parameters, including fruit yield, particularly of Hyb-SC-3. Surprisingly, beta-carotene and lycopene contents were also increased by triacontanol application, although it was expected that both should show inverse relationship as the former comes in the downstream of the later in their biosynthetic pathway. However, ascorbic acid was not affected by the spray of triacontanol. INTRODUCTION Triacontanol [CH3 (CH2)28 CH2OH] is a straight chain fatty alcohol of 30 carbon atoms and has been recognized as prominent chemical for plant growth promotion of many agricultural and horticultural crops [32-26]. It exists as constituent of cuticular waxes (16). It has great stimulatory effect on various processes including growth [32-2925-1-14-22-37-19], protein content [11-13-39-40-20]. Triacontanol is a natural growth promotant and has been shown to enhance growth rates and yield of many crops. Triacontanol improved the rate and extent of plants growth. It also stimulates photosynthesis and several enzyme activities [10]. Triacontanol also increase dry weight, carbon dioxide fixation, reducing sugars and free amino acids leading to the enhancement of plant growth and crop yield [27-36]. Keeping the stimulatory effect on various characteristics in view, it was decided to study the effect of triacontanol spray on performance of two varieties of tomato. A pot experiment was conducted on two cultivars, namely, Hyb-SC-3 (C1) and Hyb-Himalata (C2) of tomato (Lycopersicon esculentum Mill.) in a net house of the Department of Botany, Aligarh Muslim University, Aligarh. The aim of this experiment was to study the effect of foliar spray of five aqueous concentrations of triacontanol (0, 0.25, 0.50, 1.00 and 2.0 ppm) on response of two cultivars of tomato. The above varieties were selected on the basis of a screening test performed earlier at Aligarh [15]. The earthen pots (25 cm diameter) were filled with 4 kg homogenous mixture (3:1) of soil and cowdung manure. The soil was analysed for various characteristics (texture-sandy loam, pH (1:2)-7.5; E.C. (1.2)- 1.0 dS m-1, available N-238.2 kg ha-1, P-12 kg ha-1 and K-377kg ha-1. The seeds obtained from the Sungro Seed Company, New Delhi, were sterilized in ethyl alcohol for half an hour and then washed and soaked in double distilled water for 12 hrs before sowing. The four-week old seedlings were transplanted into the pots at the rate of one plant per pot. The pots were watered as and when required. Triacontanol treatments were applied six and eight weeks after transplanting. At the time of fruit development, the plants were supported by sticks (stacks). At harvest fresh weight of shoot plant-1, fresh weight of root plant-1, dry weight of shoot plant-1, dry weight root plant-1, fruits plant-1, weight fruit-1and fruit yield plant-1. Fruit lycopene, beta-carotene and ascorbic acid content were measured at 503, 436 and 540 nm respectively using spectrophotometer by the method described by Sadasivam and Manickam [34]. The data were analyzed statistically Fig.3: Effect of triacontanol on fruit yield, lycopene, beta-carotene and ascorbic acid contents in fruits of two varieties of tomato. RESULTS Cultivars differences and effect of triacontanol and their interaction were found to be significant on most of the parameters studied (Fig. 2& 3). The details are as follows. Fresh weight of shoot plant-1: C1 gave higher value than that of C2 spray of triacontanol at 2.00 ppm gave the maximum fresh weight and 0 ppm (control), the minimum value. Among the interactions, C2 x 1.00 ppm gave the highest value while C2 x 0.5 ppm the minimum value. Fresh weight of root plant-1: C1 gave higher value than that of C2 triacontanol at 1.00 ppm gave the highest value and 0 ppm the minimum. C1 x 2.00 ppm gave the highest value while C2 x 0.25 ppm the minimum. Dry weight of shoot plan-1: C1 gave higher dry weight than C2. Among the treatments, 1.00 ppm gave the highest value while 0 ppm, the minimum value. C1 x 0.25 ppm combination gave maximum dry weight. Dry weight of root plant-1: Like fresh weight, dry weight of root given by C1 was higher than that of C2. Concentration 1.00 ppm gave higher value while 0 ppm the minimum. C1 x 1.00 ppm gave maximum dry weight. The value was at par with that of C1 x 2.00 ppm, C1 x 0.50, and C2 x 1.00 ppm. Fruits plant-1: Like other parameters, C1 gave higher value than C2. Spray of triacontanol at 1.00 ppm gave maximum value and 0 ppm the minimum. However, the value of 2.00 ppm was statistically equal with that of 1.00 ppm,. Among the interactions, C1 x 2.00 ppm, C1 x 1.00 ppm and C1 x 0.50 ppm gave being at par the highest value. Weight plant-1: C1 produced heavier fruits than C2. Among the treatments, 1.00 ppm gave the maximum value while 0 ppm the minimum. C1 x 1.00 ppm gave the maximum value however; C2 x 0.50 gave minimum value. Fruit yield plant-1: C1 gave higher yield than C2. Among the treatments,1.00 ppm equaled by 2.00 ppm gave maximum yield of tomato and 0 ppm gave minimum value. Interaction C1 x 1.00 ppm, equaled by C1x 2.00 ppm, gave maximum fruit yield. The lowest yield was produced by C2 x 0 ppm. C1 x 1.00 gave 24 % higher yield than C1 x 0 ppm. Lycopene contents in fruits: The content was higher in C1 than C2. Among the treatments, 1.00 ppm gave maximum value. However, the value was at par with that of 2.00 ppm. The control gave minimum value. Interaction C1 x 1.00 ppm, equaled by C1 x 2.00 ppm, C2 x 2.00 ppm, C2 x 1.00 ppm and C1 x 0.5 ppm gave maximum lycopene content. C2 x 0 ppm gave minimum content. Beta-carotene content in fruits: Beta-carotene content was at par in both cultivars. Out of different doses of triacontanol, 1.00 ppm gave maximum value which was at par with 0.50 and 2.00 ppm. Among the interactions, C2 x 1.00 ppm equaled by C1 x 1.00 ppm, C2 x 0.5 ppm, C1 x 0.5 ppm, C2 x 2.00 ppm and C1 x 2.00 ppm highest content gave higher content than other interactions were at par themselves. Ascorbic acid content: No significant cultivars differences and treatment and interactions effect on the ascorbic acid content were noted. DISCUSSION The growth promoting effect of triacontanol on the whole plant specially the fresh and dry weight has been established in a variety of plants including tomatoes by [23-2-17-13-38-27-31-18-5-3-12-24-28-35- 32]. Our finding that 1.00 ppm of triacontanol increased the biomass production of tomato is in accordance of the above reports. The increased in dry weight accumulation of the plant with foliar application of triacontanol suggests that it is involve in growth parameters and photosynthesis [5-8-9-19- 37]. All these findings support the results of this work that show the gradual increase of biomass production by the gradual increase of levels of triacontanol. On the other hand, triacontanol also enhanced not only the number of fruits but weight per fruit that indicate it increased the flowering as well as heaviness as there would be more partitioning of photosynthates to the developing sink. Several workers have reported boosted yield by triacontanol application on tomato [4-13-38-21] and other plants [7-22-19- 25-30-1-32-28]. Lycopene and beta-carotene are tetraterpenoids, derived from isoprenes [33] are very similar structure (Fig1). They should show a little different response to triacontanol as beta-carotene is in downstream of lycopene in the biosynthetic pathway. The effect of triacontanol was insignificant on ascorbic acid content. This finding is in accordance with the findings of Hashim and Lundergan [7]. CONCLUSION Thus, triacontanol may be used as growth, yield and quality promotion of tomato. According to this experiment, variety Hyb-SC-3 (C1) proved better and may be adopted and be sprayed with 1.00 ppm triacontanol for best yield and quality. |
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based on the results of the triacontanol test on the 2 different varieties of tomatoes and a friendly warning on Spurrs part about >1ppm triacontanol concentrations and stretch, i have decided to make the concentrations of triacontanol for my test groups such: 0.0ppm (control), .25ppm, .50ppm, .75ppm and 1.0ppm. i will be using polysorbate 20 although it is not required when using NST
i will be spraying between 1 and 2 weeks after transplant and will continue to apply every 14 days stopping before day 15 of flower. i might take 1 plant from each test group and give one more application during peak bud production (around day 30) Last edited by dizzlekush; 09-22-2011 at 01:05 AM.. Reason: change in test parameters |
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the 2nd PGR i will be testing is methyl dihydrojasomonate. there isn't much research on the chemical, and absolutely no proof of its effectiveness but i will be using it anyways since it the most easily obtainable and usable jasmonic acid that i could find.
the MDHJ will be applied one time only once bud production seems to have drastically declined i will be using 4 different groups: 1 control and 3 tests. the levels of MDHJ the groups will be tested at are: 0ppm, 30ppm, 60ppm, and 90ppm (and most likely one plant at 120ppm). each plant in this test has already been sprayed with .5ppm of triacontanol once around day 30 of bloom and will not be taking part in the triacontanol dosage experiment. Spurr has already compiled a top notch list of jasmonic acid scientific articles. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...3&postcount=54 Last edited by dizzlekush; 09-12-2011 at 04:02 AM.. |
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Was just reading through spurrs articles yesterday. I find this type of experimenting very interesting, but i'm still kinda on the fence about playing around with such things. Mostly just due to my somewhat irrational fear of things I don't yet fully understand. Keep us updated on your findings. I will be doing further study myself when time permits, just have a few to many irons in the fire right now to fully dive into this one. Welcome to ICmag by the way.
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Gogogo ! Always interested in marihuana testing !
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great idea. i have used tria as directed by a rose grower friend. not mdhj. wanna try some jazz rose spray soon. this should be a great experiment
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dam it all. went to water last night in the bloom room and found spider mites. if i ever found out one thing about spider mites, its DO NOT WAIT. so to not have a giant harvest of unsmokable buds i decided to tackle this the 'natural' way, which meant scrapping the Methyl DihydroJasmonate dosage experiment. it was too late in bloom to give them multiple sprays and since jasmonic acids have shown to weaken foliage feeding insects like mites i decided to make the MDHJ a part of the treatment.
the treatment was: 945ml distilled water 20ml rosemary oil 10ml neem oil 17ml Monterey Garden Insect Spray (spinosad) 3.3ml JAZ Rose spray (full dose, 107 ppm MDHJ) 5ml polysorbate 20 i treated half the plants in the garden with that concentrate and sprayed another quarter of the garden with the same thing but the MDHJ halved (53.5ppm) and the last quarter had a decent amount of room and treated plants between it and the infected plants. 2 plants were heavily infected. i chopped the weaker and most infected one down, and removed the remaining one and another more infected one from the garden. every plant around the outbreak has been given adequate room in between each other to slow down transfer. so the MDHJ dosage experiment is half butchered. half the garden got sprayed with 107ppm, a quarter got 53.5, and the last quarter got none (control). but each dosage of MDHJ was also mixed in with several other products, none of which i have ever sprayed this late in bloom. so some stressing or stomata clogging or some factor is likely to stray the results from that of a pure MDHJ test. if this doesn't kill the spider mites... im pretty much giving up on a 'natural' way to kill these little bastads. |
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but on a lighter side of experiment news, the first part of the Triacontanol dosage experiment kicked off yesterday. the 80 plant garden that is not maintained/owned by me got its first dosage. since i left the concentrations to be tested in the choice of the growers, they decided on testing 0.0ppm, .25ppm, .50ppm, and .75ppm. i actually almost like this more than an exact copy of my experiment (only difference being they decided to switch my 1.0ppm dosage to .75ppm). these growers are slight copycats of mine and therefore use the same nutrients i use and are now growing the same strain as me. so multiple parameters of the test that would normally be varied will have some consistency.
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