Machine abused Nugs...

[Chimera]

Are scissors with springs better then regular scissors?

Anyone that uses scissors with springs is a HACK! I used a straight razor and hand hone my blade after each leaf... [/sarcasm]

There is no 'doing it properly'... like growing, there are many ways to do the job, what works for one won't necessarily work for the other. As is evident here market forces dictate the way the cannabis world operates.... in most places in the EU, they barely trim the weed and much of what is on the market couldn't even be sold in the more discerning markets in North America. If buyers won't pay above a certain amount, then producers will cut back on time invested to stay profitable. In BC, for a while it was possible to sell perfect canned flowers by the 1/2 or ounce. Clients were willing to pay that extra amount for flowers that were treated with care and minimally handled post harvest - this did mean bypassing brokers tough and selling direct to the retailer, in most cases.

In Afghanistan and Pakistan, men would look at you as if you were crazy if you were smoking flowers at all, wondering why you were smoking an unrefined, unfinished product (ie- flowers, not resin). One day our markets may reach that point too, when the value of flowers off the hill hits the level where it makes no financial sense to process the flowers any other way- that is already happening in parts of Cali and BC.

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TheJointedOne I would love to hear that song.... something they play on KMUD no doubt!

-Chimera

 

[theJointedOne]

Anyone that uses scissors with springs is a HACK! I used a straight razor and hand hone my blade after each leaf... [/sarcasm]

There is no 'doing it properly'... like growing, there are many ways to do the job, what works for one won't necessarily work for the other. As is evident here market forces dictate the way the cannabis world operates.... in most places in the EU, they barely trim the weed and much of what is on the market couldn't even be sold in the more discerning markets in North America. If buyers won't pay above a certain amount, then producers will cut back on time invested to stay profitable. In BC, for a while it was possible to sell perfect canned flowers by the 1/2 or ounce. Clients were willing to pay that extra amount for flowers that were treated with care and minimally handled post harvest - this did mean bypassing brokers tough and selling direct to the retailer, in most cases.

In Afghanistan and Pakistan, men would look at you as if you were crazy if you were smoking flowers at all, wondering why you were smoking an unrefined, unfinished product (ie- flowers, not resin). One day our markets may reach that point too, when the value of flowers off the hill hits the level where it makes no financial sense to process the flowers any other way- that is already happening in parts of Cali and BC.

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TheJointedOne I would love to hear that song.... something they play on KMUD no doubt!

-Chimera

I agree with your points.

I dont see the flower market disappearing in north America simply b/c of the history we have with the flower. if that makes sense.

Yea KMUD, of course

 

[TheRealHash]

....In Afghanistan and Pakistan, men would look at you as if you were crazy if you were smoking flowers at all, wondering why you were smoking an unrefined, unfinished product (ie- flowers, not resin)....

-Chimera

Much respect to Afghanis and their hashish.

I know they feel that smoking cannabis flowers "sickens the lungs and makes men mad(crazy)"

I guarantee these guys have never tasted a properly rolled blunt of purple erkle.

 

[Tonygreen]

If money is the main issue soon everyone will be trimming commercial grows with these...

 

[BrnCow]

Some of this shit weed kids are calling dro around here look like over dry fucking popcorn buds to me. The trichs are clear and sparse. I think they are shaking it on a screen before they are selling it. Picking it as soon as it gets them high. Or maybe they have some fucked up trimmer of some kind. Anyway, the one I looked at was this way. This bud is plaguing the area and being sold by the same people that have shitty brick weed. I mean dirt weed - looks,smells, and burns up real fast. I think they are burying that shit on a ranch until they need it. Or warehousing it. There are three or four levels of brickweed. The best never seems to make it above the 100 mile "illegal alien" checkpoints - mostly all with dogs. But in close to the border towns, a person can supposedly buy killer popcorn on the street for $25 an ounce. Wish I knew someone there...lol But, hell no...at this age shit gets hard to find. The days of running on someone new and scoring is gone...

 

[RoadRash]

If money is the main issue soon everyone will be trimming commercial grows with these...
http://photos1.blogger.com/hello/275/6184/1024/cary done eating weeds in kohlrabi bed.jpg

Chickens love pot. The problem is, they prefer to eat growing tips, at least mine do.

 

[LEF]

I think I wrote this before, but just in case.

I thought about it and

I wrote at some point that I had a hard time sympathizing with the struggle of lowering of prices or that I did not sympathize at all.

It might not have been true, I generally sympathize with people in the struggle and I understand how that can be when things you had or have are not being worth as much anymore.

I don't know what it is worth to grow big ammounts and the work it takes.

Didn't mean to offend.

cheers

 

[gaiusmarius]

i actually think there will be good trimming machines on the market soon. we already have all the tech you'd need to make a super trimming robot with tentacles that have an adjustable circular blades that are controlled by software that measures the size of every bud its running over and adjust the blades to the perfect level so you get a perfect trim. you will just hang the whole plant upside down on a conveyor which will run it past the multy tentacled machine which will just work branch by branch. it will cost a million or so to make the first one, but with legality and all the advantages to the end product this might well be how it's done in future. when you see how complicated some hi tech machinery is and the complex tasks they can achieve you realize that it's only a matter of time before some engineers puts the different techs together to solve this issue with trimming once and for all, lol.

 

[Abja Roots]

I was thinking the same thing. There will be some kind of trimming machine with lasers, sensors, and blades to get it just perfect.

 

[D. B. Doober]

In those spots in California where they don't use flowers, I don't think it replaces any flowers it just goes to stores idk I'm thinking about it now. Yeah like just get the trichomes off the plant that's it and only that. Its never going to take over buds. I want hash now

 

[Avinash.miles]

If money is the main issue soon everyone will be trimming commercial grows with these...

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yhea, next thing people will be claiming only TRUE cannabis growers use sheep NOT goats to trim their product....

 

[paladin420]

Trimmers in our rural areas are already complaining about the competition form sheep.

Bbbbbbaaaaaddddd dddddaaaaddddd

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

yhea, next thing people will be claiming only TRUE cannabis growers use sheep NOT goats to trim their product....

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goats can be used if they are fed comfrey and nettles during the full moon but not during the months that end in Y. during those months they need to be fed timothy grass that was not grown within sight of an improved road or a dirt road that may have been used to transport GMO products within the last 73 days unless there was snow on the ground at the time. if the sheep drank any runoff from the improved road then the goat and the sheep should both be slaughtered at the next PETA function but only if the state you live in is bordered by a major river while making sure that none of the blood is cleaned up without it having first splattered the crowd. if christina applegate is at the rally she should be forced to blow the goat which would make the sheep jump off a cliff and the poor goat join a victims groups made up of donkeys that shower 6 times a day to remove the filth from their former lives in TJ.

not sure if the goat won't be a xanex addict after that so it might not be considered organic and you should make sure the goat has a green card before you even think about letting him near the grow

simple enough, right?

 

[TheRealGrowShow]

Wow, I just read through this thread and it's really sad. It's a thread started by smokers, and a bunch of commercial growers just convened in here to gang up on any non-commercial grower to run them out of the thread......nice community of growers we have here I see, smh.

I grew commercially for almost 10 years and I never used a machine......so I don't buy any of these excuses being tossed around in here. I'm all for progress, commerce, and making money, but c'mon.......when you have made your operation so big that quality control and product handling suffers, then maybe it's time to re-evaluate your set-up. What would you have to say if fruit farmers all of a sudden starting using picking machines that bruised their fruit, instead of hiring crews to pick the fruit properly. If you kept going to the store to buy bruised fruit, you would complain about the growing practices too....exact same thing in this case.

Anyhow, there is some serious bullying going on in this thread. Smokers come here with a very legitimate complaint, and as soon as they post something 5 commercial growers start flaming them.

 

[kmk420kali]

Wow, I just read through this thread and it's really sad. It's a thread started by smokers, and a bunch of commercial growers just convened in here to gang up on any non-commercial grower to run them out of the thread......nice community of growers we have here I see, smh.

I grew commercially for almost 10 years and I never used a machine......so I don't buy any of these excuses being tossed around in here. I'm all for progress, commerce, and making money, but c'mon.......when you have made your operation so big that quality control and product handling suffers, then maybe it's time to re-evaluate your set-up. What would you have to say if fruit farmers all of a sudden starting using picking machines that bruised their fruit, instead of hiring crews to pick the fruit properly. If you kept going to the store to buy bruised fruit, you would complain about the growing practices too....exact same thing in this case.

Anyhow, there is some serious bullying going on in this thread. Smokers come here with a very legitimate complaint, and as soon as they post something 5 commercial growers start flaming them.

So how much time and $$ did you spend on a 200 lb trim job??

Oh, and I disagree with you that growers are bullying here...I see many trying to explain why they use them...only to be called names--

 

[Avinash.miles]

Grow show;
i don't see it that way, and sorry if you do, we like to kid here at icmag, I myself am NOT trying to be an asshole here, just pointing out that at certain levels of production trim machines are a cost effective and CERTAIN machines DO NOT "ABUSE" the product.

There are effective trim machines for small growers also, like bonsai hero!

if you look at the first page it's mostly gripes from smokers, does that constitute "bullying" in this thread to you? not me,
mods have cleaned this dirty bitch up already, i think what they have left is all above board and in the spirit of conversation and sharing experiences and opinions for the most part...
not to mention a fair share of joking around and a lil ball busting perhaps...

 

[krunchbubble]

Wow, I just read through this thread and it's really sad. It's a thread started by smokers, and a bunch of commercial growers just convened in here to gang up on any non-commercial grower to run them out of the thread......nice community of growers we have here I see, smh.

I grew commercially for almost 10 years and I never used a machine......so I don't buy any of these excuses being tossed around in here. I'm all for progress, commerce, and making money, but c'mon.......when you have made your operation so big that quality control and product handling suffers, then maybe it's time to re-evaluate your set-up. What would you have to say if fruit farmers all of a sudden starting using picking machines that bruised their fruit, instead of hiring crews to pick the fruit properly. If you kept going to the store to buy bruised fruit, you would complain about the growing practices too....exact same thing in this case.

Anyhow, there is some serious bullying going on in this thread. Smokers come here with a very legitimate complaint, and as soon as they post something 5 commercial growers start flaming them.

Ya, I grew commercially for many years and DID NOT use trimming machines...


BUT, that was because they were NOT invented yet!! And pot was $4k a lb! The headaches of having 40+ trimmers was insane. Im glad I wont experience that again...

 

[TheRealHash]

Damn Krunch.. ^^^ You're killing it!




And just so everybody knows, not all trimming machines are created equal!

Twisters and other wet trimmers can abuse the product.

Avinash said the satellite doesn't fuck the weed up and I can vouch for the trim pal being a good machine.

Dude at the grow shop was pumped on the bonsai hero's too. He said they are the best product.

Sounds to me like opinion has a lot to do with it as far as hand trimming vs. machine.

 

[TheRealGrowShow]

So how much time and $$ did you spend on a 200 lb trim job??

Oh, and I disagree with you that growers are bullying here...I see many trying to explain why they use them...only to be called names--

I never paid anything. Myself and my two partners got our hands dirty, and then we put together and honest and reliable crew that would come out whenever needed and do a high quality trim job in return for some nice bags of the final product. Win-win for everyone.....no cash payment necessary, safe, reliable, and we always had high quality hand-trimmed buds for our customers at the same price as people using the machines. Sure, it's costing me a little bit of product, but I just grew a few extra plants specifically for my trimmers, and even took requests from them on strains. This arrangement took a very small dent out of my profits, but allowed me to provide top quality product that wasn't bashed around in a machine. I took great pride in what I did as a grower, and wanted to ensure that my product was of the greatest quality possible once it got into the hands of the consumer. In my opinion, this is just smart business sense, and I think a lot of the growers in here complaining about costs and people only wanting to buy cheap weed, etc. are being very short-sighted. Over time, in my area, after consistently producing superior product and finding ways to deliver premium quality at the same price as the other crap being grown and abused around here, I developed a name for myself and a great reputation as a grower. Pretty soon, all the major distributors only wanted to deal with me and in time I took over a large part of the market share in my area. Once I did, I was able to charge a little bit extra for my hand-trimmed product.

And also, I see plenty of name-calling and flaming in this thread on the part of the growers. There are plenty of pro-consumer comments in here with positive ratings, but there hasn't been many willing to chime in for a few pages now, likely for fear of being lynched.

 

[TheRealGrowShow]

And Krunch, that is an awesome set-up, very nice.