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MMAR extension?
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Buds Bundy
Member
The RCMP never got the info it was the municipalities that got it using a loop hole in the Freedom Of Information Act. All they did was go to hydro, tell them give use a break down of the KW/h for each house in their section. Most of the cities at least in Lower Mainland will not be continuing the inspections as they have their laws suits do deal with.
Running 4-6 600W no one is going to be knocking on your door unless you can't keep your mouth shut.
Hell I can run more power using two computers with 2 video in each one especially if you are using an AMD CPU.
I stand corrected
You guys are totally right. I may have not been this clear but this was what i was getting at i was not trying to say that hydro calls the cops just that they generate a list of high usage. ( or at least they did haven't heard much of these "inspections" anymore since everyone was getting lawyers involved and the municipalities backed off ) ok moving on. Not sure where your at either but we use the same terminology lol
Buds Bundy
Member
Have a bank of t5 come on for a few hours then your main lights. Contact Nutrilife and ask them about their 600W ballasts and the control module. The module can be programmed to have the ballasts come on at say 20% then a few hours later 40% etc and it can also do the same at the end of the light cycle.
In the group of friends I'm in, we were curious same as the people here in the form are, of the "Smart Meter", of the large usage and if Hydro did or were under orders to send lists of large power users. We decided one of us should call to see what the policies were with the power company.
First...The "Smart Meters" were install to have a more accurate account of usage to stop power theft(not just marijuana growers steal power). Also, it was to lower employee costs, they will need less meter readers on staff. Smart Meters were installed to modernizer, stop power thefts and improve profits.
Second...Hydro does not give info to the police or other agencies automatically. There has to be a formal request made to the power company from the agency involved...in writing. This written request has to pertain to a particular address, not an area. The Hydro company does not just send list automatically of large power usage to anyone, this information is private. If you are targeted for large usage, there would have to be other evidence or circumstances that would warrant a formal request from police to the Power Company. The police can submit a list of addresses as long as each is a formal written request, but not the other way around.
These are answers for the province BC, if you are in another province of Canada, you'll have to call and ask questions of your power suppler for correct answers that are for your area. I was quite surprised as to how easily they answered all the questions, never asking why or who.
Peace...B
First...The "Smart Meters" were install to have a more accurate account of usage to stop power theft(not just marijuana growers steal power). Also, it was to lower employee costs, they will need less meter readers on staff. Smart Meters were installed to modernizer, stop power thefts and improve profits.
Second...Hydro does not give info to the police or other agencies automatically. There has to be a formal request made to the power company from the agency involved...in writing. This written request has to pertain to a particular address, not an area. The Hydro company does not just send list automatically of large power usage to anyone, this information is private. If you are targeted for large usage, there would have to be other evidence or circumstances that would warrant a formal request from police to the Power Company. The police can submit a list of addresses as long as each is a formal written request, but not the other way around.
These are answers for the province BC, if you are in another province of Canada, you'll have to call and ask questions of your power suppler for correct answers that are for your area. I was quite surprised as to how easily they answered all the questions, never asking why or who.
Peace...B
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BC*Dankster*
Active member
Do you guys think it would be ok to go an extra week after march 31? I dont wanna crop at 7 weeks sheeeeit. Are the cops going to be checking out all the bigger grows to make sure they shut down? Any info is greatly appreciated, thanks.
Buds Bundy
Member
If you told the city or the local RCMP what you were doing then I would stop. If its not big and no on knows then I'd probably keep going. I've talked lots of growers and quite a few will take it into first week of April.
On the other hand 7 week weed is awesome high just don't smoke it before bed time.
TheBlackman
Member
yo
it still fierce winter time in my section of the pines,
I be of the mindset if'in you don't mind to opine,
since it still be still cold an the lands be covered with snow,
I say the hell with the MMPR, let it grow, let it grow
it still fierce winter time in my section of the pines,
I be of the mindset if'in you don't mind to opine,
since it still be still cold an the lands be covered with snow,
I say the hell with the MMPR, let it grow, let it grow
http://www.montrealgazette.com/heal...rthritis+pain+McGill+study/9574543/story.html
maybe they see an extension coming forced by courts so they release this bunk and will TRY not including or writing scripts for arthritis patients which are 2/3s of the med patients across canada ?
dont mind me if u think im some kind of conspiracy theorist , but its coming down to the wire and thoughts are racing in my high mind.
maybe they see an extension coming forced by courts so they release this bunk and will TRY not including or writing scripts for arthritis patients which are 2/3s of the med patients across canada ?
dont mind me if u think im some kind of conspiracy theorist , but its coming down to the wire and thoughts are racing in my high mind.
Interested article..
I know the pain management Dr. said he wouldn't RX MJ for arthritis also based on his experiences prescribing it to willing elderly patients yrs before...course all he ever wanted to do was shoot needles of lidocane etc. into people...
I know the pain management Dr. said he wouldn't RX MJ for arthritis also based on his experiences prescribing it to willing elderly patients yrs before...course all he ever wanted to do was shoot needles of lidocane etc. into people...
No You will not be OK. You Should Contact the Local News Paper and tell them your situation and contact your MLA
You can and will be arrested if caught after April 1st with any cannabis that was not grown by the Licensed Producer your registered with .
Now with all that said . I myself would wait the extra 10 days or what I needed to finish and choose my health And keep my stash .
By I can afford to fight that fight, Can You!
BC*Dankster*
Active member
Well being familiar with how police investigations work, I figured that they cant just barge in with a warrant. Wouldnt they have to start an investigation, check power consumption records, etc. before they can even apply for a warrant? The only way I think I could get pinched for going an extra week is if they bring the bylaw inspectors to the place. But even then, they cant just kick a door in and come inside. Wouldnt they have to contact the landlord etc and ask permission to check it out? Even if police were watching the place from say half block away and they see someone leaving the premises, they cant just pull up and demand to be let inside right?
TheBlackman
Member
yo
I be findin' this here..
http://news.ca.msn.com/local/britis...ijuana-grow-ops-will-not-be-busted-say-mayors
Municipal politicians and police in B.C. say it's doubtful home marijuana grow-ops will be shut down when new federal rules come into play.
As of January 8, 13,734 people in British Columbia had licences to grow their own medical marijuana.
But beginning April 1, such production will be illegal and the only sanctioned way to obtain prescription pot will be through large, licensed commercial producers.
Abbotsford Mayor Bruce Banman and Mission Mayor Ted Adlem say there doesn't seem to be a plan to make sure the old system that allowed the legal establishment of thousand of small grow-ops is shut down.
"I'm not really interested in going after a little guy that's growing for his own personal use," said Adlem.
"That makes no sense, it is absolutely ludicrous. And I don't think any municipal police department is going to go and try and search for somebody who is growing for their own personal use."
Abbotsford police Const. Ian MacDonald says police will respond to concerns about those grow operations as they arise, but he confirmed that there are no plans for a big crackdown.
"I don't believe that just because the calendar flips, that all of a sudden you're going to muster all your resources that were previously investigating robberies and sexual assaults, and being in the schools as school liaisons and your traffic officers and we're going to form up and then start taking lists of homes and knocking on the doors," MacDonald said.
Vancouver to adopt a 'Don't ask, don't tell' approach
Vision Vancouver City Councillor Kerry Jang says the city will take an Obama-inspired "Don't ask, don't tell" approach to patients who've been told by the federal government to stop growing in their homes.
"You've received your letter and the choice is entirely up to you, and we'll support whatever choice you make," said Jang.
Some patients who grow their own pot will comply with the new rules, according to marijuana activist Jodie Emery.
"A lot of patients are ordinary people who wouldn't even tell their friends that they use marijuana, so those people are going to be more fearful," said Emery.
"However, the activists, a lot of them are going to say no, I will keep keep growing, and you take me to court, and let's fight this."
In a written statement, Health Canada says they expect participants to follow the new rules, and the changes are an attempt to address public safety concerns about allowing grow-ops in people's homes.
"The department is committed to working with law enforcement, municipalities and other partners to ensure a smooth transition to the new system of licensed producers," said the statement from Health Canada.
The RCMP say the old system was abused, and in many cases patients were growing more than they should, selling their extra pot, and even getting involved with organized crime.
I be findin' this here..
http://news.ca.msn.com/local/britis...ijuana-grow-ops-will-not-be-busted-say-mayors
Municipal politicians and police in B.C. say it's doubtful home marijuana grow-ops will be shut down when new federal rules come into play.
As of January 8, 13,734 people in British Columbia had licences to grow their own medical marijuana.
But beginning April 1, such production will be illegal and the only sanctioned way to obtain prescription pot will be through large, licensed commercial producers.
Abbotsford Mayor Bruce Banman and Mission Mayor Ted Adlem say there doesn't seem to be a plan to make sure the old system that allowed the legal establishment of thousand of small grow-ops is shut down.
"I'm not really interested in going after a little guy that's growing for his own personal use," said Adlem.
"That makes no sense, it is absolutely ludicrous. And I don't think any municipal police department is going to go and try and search for somebody who is growing for their own personal use."
Abbotsford police Const. Ian MacDonald says police will respond to concerns about those grow operations as they arise, but he confirmed that there are no plans for a big crackdown.
"I don't believe that just because the calendar flips, that all of a sudden you're going to muster all your resources that were previously investigating robberies and sexual assaults, and being in the schools as school liaisons and your traffic officers and we're going to form up and then start taking lists of homes and knocking on the doors," MacDonald said.
Vancouver to adopt a 'Don't ask, don't tell' approach
Vision Vancouver City Councillor Kerry Jang says the city will take an Obama-inspired "Don't ask, don't tell" approach to patients who've been told by the federal government to stop growing in their homes.
"You've received your letter and the choice is entirely up to you, and we'll support whatever choice you make," said Jang.
Some patients who grow their own pot will comply with the new rules, according to marijuana activist Jodie Emery.
"A lot of patients are ordinary people who wouldn't even tell their friends that they use marijuana, so those people are going to be more fearful," said Emery.
"However, the activists, a lot of them are going to say no, I will keep keep growing, and you take me to court, and let's fight this."
In a written statement, Health Canada says they expect participants to follow the new rules, and the changes are an attempt to address public safety concerns about allowing grow-ops in people's homes.
"The department is committed to working with law enforcement, municipalities and other partners to ensure a smooth transition to the new system of licensed producers," said the statement from Health Canada.
The RCMP say the old system was abused, and in many cases patients were growing more than they should, selling their extra pot, and even getting involved with organized crime.
This is a question best answered by you.
You are the only one that knows the particulars of your situation and area. All depends if your in the middle of no where, a small town or a big city, did you tell the authorities, is your mayor a good person or are they hating growers. These are all things that will help in your decision. Also, there's the drying and cure time to consider, with everything out on the screens, this will add more time to your vulnerability. Then there's the letter from Health Canada that outed every MMAR grower across Canada, could your city or town have make a list, this goes back to the Mayor and there attitude.
There are to many variables that only you can know. There for, it is your choice and only your choice, because if you choose wrong, its your life that is effected, no one else's. And make no mistake...If you are caught after the end date(April 1/2014) you will be charged(amusing there isn't a extension granted).
Personally, I'm going to continue to grow after a respectable cool down period...6 months or so. Just to see what's happening around my town. I live in a town that has a Reverend as Mayor, they believe marijuana is bad and its bad for the community. If in 6 months or so, there isn't a huge list of medical people harassed...I will resume. Its up to us as individual to assess the situation and use common sense to protect your families(wife and kids) and the home.
Peace...B
