are you a "conspiracy theorist"?

[Stoner4Life]

When the phrase "conspiracy theorist" is used (usually in conjunction with eye rolling and other signs of arrogance) to describe another, it's a sure sign that the person using the phrase is a naive, uninformed idiot. Only someone who's dumber than a fucking brick and completely out of touch with what the world is and how it actually works, actually believes the bullshit shoveled into their minds daily by the government and news media.

Our entire society is based on LIES. The label "conspiracy theorist" was invented by liars as a weapon to attack people who search for and speak the truth. It works because people are so God damned pathetically, desperately in need of "belonging" to something, that they will happily allow themselves to become pawns (as Stalin said, "useful idiots") in the war against truth. They willingly sell themselves to Satan in an instant just to satisfy the needs of their sad little egos.

These people will certainly be destroyed by their own stupidity and arrogance, of course, but you can't tell them that. You can't reason with someone who doesn't want to see or hear reason. You can only shake your head and sigh as they sleepwalk to their inevitable destruction.

so you used naive, uninformed idiot & dumber than a fucking brick to describe 'non-conspiracy theorists'; also your 2nd paragraph continues to stereotype non-theorists as pawns against the truth, useful idiots & sellouts to Satan, paragraph 3 is full of similar drivel.

why does every dimwitted conspiracy theorist think it's his/her job to convince me/us that we're wrong??? Instead I think you guys should just have some back slapping amongst yourselves while boasting about having it all right, all along

Why not be satisfied with being right, fuck no, you're gonna try to godpound it into everyone that picks the other side. Ever see me or anyone else open a thread to pound the conspiracy theorists heads with proof of why they're wrong??? FUCK NO!!!!!!!

each one of you 'truthers' (HA!!!) posting youtube video after youtube video trying to prove that your side are the 'enlightened' ones. the VAST majority of those videos are made by virtual unknowns, contain info taken out of context and spewing the kinda shit that makes you wet your pants with so called 'evidence' of coverups and conspiracies. Documents are shown/flashed onscreen and you all assume it's legit, any fool can fake that shit and pass it along to be consumed by those that are more foolish yet.


I've been personally accused elsewhere here of getting my info from mainstream media and TV newscasts. The last time I watched network news was during the Boston marathon bombing, I source ALL of my news & info from non-mainstream internet sites.

A recent lawsuit had me being tested for occupational skills, limits etc... Tested by both my side and theirs I'd taken 4 IQ tests, 2 written & 2 verbal, tests coming from different sources. Both written tests scored me @ 142; one verbal was 129 & the other 132. That puts me in the 92 percentile of the tested population.

So ya know what this idiot did during the housing boom??? Banks were offering me loans against my property like everyone else, nope, this non-theorist made double & triple payments instead, paying my property off almost 9 years early; and when my neighbor started going belly up due to the bust of that housing bubble I bought some of his land cheap. Silly me, going with my instincts instead of believing the bankers huh?

When I read something if I don't understand it I stop & research until I do. I know when I'm gettin' a snow job, not easily baffled by bullshit. I know damn well that the govt lies to us, it's the worst of the old boy networks, I know there are conspiracies in and around the govt but I don't believe there's one just because someone says it is so, I make my own fucking mind up capably.

 

[candidly]

if it had NOT hit that office, would you be here claiming "they tried but missed" ?

I have no idea what I'd be claiming.

How is that relevant?

What happened, happened. And it's suspicious as fuck.

Did you read the part where I mentioned that I too was one of the 9/11 conspiracy "eye rollers" long after 9/11? I didn't question the official story for the longest time. It is only recently that I started giving any serious thought to it.

 

[candidly]

so you used naive, uninformed idiot & dumber than a fucking brick to describe 'non-conspiracy theorists'; also your 2nd paragraph continues to stereotype non-theorists as pawns against the truth, useful idiots & sellouts to Satan, paragraph 3 is full of similar drivel.

That isn't what I said.

Read it again.

I was talking about people who call people "conspiracy theorists."

It's a made up term, invented by idiots, to describe what they're apparently not capable/willing to understand. It's a word used to demonize people. It's a word used to suppress the truth. Those who use the word in that way, are doing the work of Satan.

You're on the side of truth? Great! That means you don't roll your eyes at "conspiracy theorists", right? That means you accept our theories as legitimate and judge them on equal terms with any other theory, right along side the 'official' mainstream story?

If not, then you're working in service of lies, and liars.

So which is it?

why does every dimwitted conspiracy theorist think it's his/her job to convince me/us that we're wrong??? Instead I think you guys should just have some back slapping amongst yourselves while boasting about having it all right, all along

Wasn't it you who chimed in to this thread to explain to all of us 'dimwitted' conspiracy theorists how wrong and stupid and paranoid we all are?

Did somebody call out "Stoner4Life" and demand he come to this thread to get his ass metaphorically kicked by the forces of truth and righteousness? Were you dragged in by your nose hairs? Or did you just manage to stumble in here somehow?

Why not be satisfied with being right, fuck no, you're gonna try to godpound it into everyone that picks the other side. Ever see me or anyone else open a thread to pound the conspiracy theorists heads with proof of why they're wrong??? FUCK NO!!!!!!!

So you're pissed because somebody created a thread about 'conspiracy theories', and has the nerve to act like they're in the right and actually know what's up? And you're mad because you can't just come in, take a great big steaming pile of shit in the middle of the thread, and leave unchallenged?

each one of you 'truthers' (HA!!!) posting youtube video after youtube video trying to prove that your side are the 'enlightened' ones.

'Each one.' Except me. I haven't posted any Youtube videos. I don't need to post videos; I can reason and think and argue. Unfortunately, the counter-arguments are few and far between, while the insults and anger are par for the course.

Why is it OK for people to roll their eyes at conspiracy theorists, but we can't present our theories in our own little thread and defend them, without being hated for it?

I theorize it's because your ego, deep down inside, knows that we're on to something. You don't like the idea that your 142 IQ and thoughtful analysis may have amounted to dick. You're surprised and angered by the thought that a 140 IQ guy half your age could be closer to the truth than you imagined yourself to be.

the VAST majority of those videos are made by virtual unknowns,

Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.

contain info taken out of context and spewing the kinda shit that makes you wet your pants with so called 'evidence' of coverups and conspiracies.

Never once wet my pants in the pursuit of understanding the truth. Sounds like you're doing it wrong.

Documents are shown/flashed onscreen and you all assume it's legit, any fool can fake that shit and pass it along to be consumed by those that are more foolish yet.

Are you talking about what the mainstream media does, or conspiracy theorists videos? Sorry, you can understand the confusion.

I've been personally accused elsewhere here of getting my info from mainstream media and TV newscasts. The last time I watched network news was during the Boston marathon bombing, I source ALL of my news & info from non-mainstream internet sites.

ZeroHedge, or Huffington Post?

SHTFPlan.com, or DailyKos?

Great that you're unplugged from mainstream media, but as we all know, there's plenty of bullshit (and idiots) on the internet too.

A recent lawsuit had me being tested for occupational skills, limits etc... Tested by both my side and theirs I'd taken 4 IQ tests, 2 written & 2 verbal, tests coming from different sources. Both written tests scored me @ 142; one verbal was 129 & the other 132. That puts me in the 92 percentile of the tested population.

You're that smart, and you're still having trouble understanding that 9/11 was an inside story? Sounds like the problem is ignorance, not stupidity. Both will get you killed however so the difference is moot.

So ya know what this idiot did during the housing boom??? Banks were offering me loans against my property like everyone else, nope, this non-theorist made double & triple payments instead, paying my property off almost 9 years early; and when my neighbor started going belly up due to the bust of that housing bubble I bought some of his land cheap. Silly me, going with my instincts instead of believing the bankers huh?

Sounds good to me, but....what good is yesterday's accomplishments, if today you refuse to believe what's right before your eyes?

When I read something if I don't understand it I stop & research until I do. I know when I'm gettin' a snow job, not easily baffled by bullshit. I know damn well that the govt lies to us, it's the worst of the old boy networks, I know there are conspiracies in and around the govt but I don't believe there's one just because someone says it is so, I make my own fucking mind up capably.

Excellent! But if you make up your mind to believe lies and liars, what good is it?

 

[Stoner4Life]

I didn't chime in and tell ANYBODY they were 'wrong', hell no, I just had my say as to what I believe happened, once I stated that I was told many times that I was wrong & provided with links to supposedly prove it.

and here you are again trying to convince me I'm wrong while I'll just try to convince you that we have different beliefs. HUGE DIFFERENCE DUDE.

 

[candidly]

I didn't chime in and tell ANYBODY they were 'wrong', hell no, I just had my say as to what I believe happened, once I stated that I was told many times that I was wrong & provided with links to supposedly prove it.

and here you are again trying to convince me I'm wrong while I'll just try to convince you that we have different beliefs. HUGE DIFFERENCE DUDE.

News flash, we already fucking know you have different beliefs, dude! You don't think we haven't spent our entire fucking lives being spit on, derided, kicked at, eye rolled, laughed at, and insulted by narrow minded dickwads simply for having our beliefs? And you don't see how we held on to our theories and developed them anyway, over years of thought? Then you want to come in and say "you're all wrong, here's what I think", and expect us to be welcomed in like "oh wow...totally never thought of that before! you're so right!"

If you don't think 9/11 was a conspiracy...or believe in anything else that can be considered a conspiracy theory....guess what: this thread isn't for you!

What makes you think you have the right to come in this thread and start telling us we're all wrong, and not expect to get challenged and told what's what?

 

[bentom187]

ELE !
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[trichrider]

ELE !
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I absolutely believe that would solve all.

yet, here we are.

survived closure, resurrection, and concerted attack, and have managed to disclose information despite it being so controversial and contested.

there is a reason they secreted pentagon photos/videos away (citing national security. security that apparently anyone could defeat: eg. some untrained middle eastern dupes who couldn't land a Cessna, plowing a commandeered jetliner into a protected high security facility, just after planes had impacted WTC 1 & 2)...

Silverstein Makes a Huge
Profit off of the 9/11 Attacks
Six months before the 9/11 attacks the World Trade Center was "privatized" by being leased to a private sector developer. The lease was purchased by the Silverstein Group for $3.2 billion. "This is a dream come true," Larry Silverstein said. "We will be in control of a prized asset, and we will seek to develop its potential, raising it to new heights."
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/silverstein.html​

look away if the emperors new clothes offend.

 

[trichrider]

these Utubes are posted as evidence in our court of opinion here in the den.
at times there are heated exchanges and philosophies debated but the preponderance of the evidence is what we use to determine the correctness of our understanding.
to have an understanding, one must witness the evidence presented. btw that is a precept of our judicial...
when only one side presents evidence, it must be the side not presenting evidence has their minds made up, resting their case on omitted or non-existent evidence then justice/truth cannot be.

Stoner4Life, you said you determined that 9/11s official story through investigation sometime eight or ten years ago when there was no reason to suspect otherwise...a lot has happened in those years...why were you investigating whether or not it was an inside job if you already had determined otherwise, and why do you refuse to revisit these more recent developments?

 

[gaiusmarius]

good old Larry certainly got lucky with that insurance. those asbestos contaminated towers falling saved his ass.

 

[trichrider]

no wonder they trucked it off immediately huh? didn't want anyone to know they just detonated a mesothelioma bomb midtown...class action.

 

[RetroGrow]

Ten thousand "gods". That's how many man has created in his time here, and those are only the ones we know about. And there were (are) people who believed in each and every one of them, in the absence of ANY evidence. Superstition is a powerful force, and people can be made to believe in anything. Suicide bombers believe in 17 virgins as their reward. Of course, we know it's not true, but to them it is reality. Who's to say what is the greater reality? And how can we, bombarded with superstition/disinformation daily, make any sense of it? It isn't easy. Creationists believe in things that are demonstrably false, yet they continue to "believe". The ostrich syndrome. Stick your head in the sand, put your fingers in your ears, and go "na, na, na, na, na, na, na" to obscure that which contradicts you. Children believe their parents, no matter how misguided they may be. And so it goes. We are programmed to "believe" from birth. The only question is who?/what?. There is not an easy answer. The universe is chaos, so how can we make any sense of all this? The only thing I know for sure is that I am being lied to, constantly, by religions, governments, corporations, military, NSA, CIA, media, et all.
It can get confusing to an honest man.
Maybe it's true: "believe nothing of what you hear, and half of what you see.......I don't have the answers, but enjoy the dialogue.

 

[bentom187]

9/11 is a open book to me ,there are still a lot of things to consider.

Owner of World Trade Center is trying to sue airlines for BILLIONS for 9/11 attacks... even though he was already paid $5billion in insurance
Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center, is seeking $3.5billion from United Airlines, US Airways and American Airlines
Silverstein argues that the 9-11 attacks cost his property group more than $7billion
The new One World Trade Center alone cost $3.9billion

The owner of the World Trade Center is arguing in federal court that the airlines who planes were flown into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 should pay him billions in compensation.


Larry Silverstein is attempting to collect $3.5billion from United Airlines, US Airways and American Airlines - on top of nearly $5billion he has already received from his insurance company.


U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein in Manhattan is listening to arguments on both sides before he will rule on whether Silverstein's World Trade Center Properties can file a lawsuit against the airlines.


He is expected to rule from the bench as soon as several witnesses conclude testifying in the trial expected to last about three days. Arguments began on Monday.

Lawyers for the owners argued during opening statements that the money they already have received does not preclude them from separately pursuing damages against aviation companies.

Attorney Roger Podesta, who represents the airlines, said the $3.5 billion being sought for destruction of the twin towers and a third skyscraper would amount to double compensation.

He said an $8.5 billion total recovery would be more than 2 1/2 times the fair value of the buildings that fell.


Attorney Richard Williamson, representing World Trade Center Properties, said accounting and construction experts had assessed damages of at least $7.2 billion from the September 11, 2001 attacks.

One World Trade Center, which topped out earlier this year and became the tallest building in the western hemisphere, cost an estimated $3.9billion.

It is slated to open in early 2014.


'This did not just come out of a hat.' he said of the damage figures. 'You can't just say, "I have economic loss."'

The trade center owners say it has cost more than $7 billion to replace the twin towers and more than $1 billion to replace the third trade center building that fell.

The trial's first witness was Michael S. Beach, a claims expert hired by the aviation companies who spent hours explaining to the court how the loss was calculated.

In court papers, both sides have accused the other of unfairly characterizing their claims.

Should Hellerstein decide the claims do not correspond with each other, Silverstein would then have to prove liability in a separate trial.

Hellerstein, a Bronx native and U.S. Army veteran nominated to the bench by President Bill Clinton, has presided over a sprawling portfolio of 9/11-related cases.

In January, Hellerstein will hear a trial pitting Cantor Fitzgerald, which lost 658 employees in the attacks, against American Airlines. The financial services firm sued the airline over lost business and the destruction of its offices in the World Trade Center.

 

[Stoner4Life]

Stoner4Life, you said you determined that 9/11s official story through investigation sometime eight or ten years ago when there was no reason to suspect otherwise...a lot has happened in those years...why were you investigating whether or not it was an inside job if you already had determined otherwise, and why do you refuse to revisit these more recent developments?

and I also mentioned I've watched hundreds of theorist videos since then finding nothing credible in them to alter my position, same as you trichrider, same as you.


and so when I post a comment & am challenged by someone linking me up to a 3 HOUR video for me to watch I say, "wow! fuck you, tell me where in that 3 HOURS I'll find the answer!"

I ain't watching 3 more HOURS in a single video only to hear more of the same stuff just twisted around by some new theorist, I've heard it all before.

If there was something credible contained in those vids then some lucky newscaster can get famous when you send him the link. oh, I know, this kind of inside job information is being smothered by the govt.

To theorists a new video supporting their side is godlike, it's held in awe, they don't question the facts therein, no, they just quote them! and then they knock on my door like the Jehovah's of 9/11; and just like those Saturday afternoon visits, I ain't buying! I done picked my God & I picked my side of the 9/11 debate.



I've got a solid hour of cooking to do, I'll revisit this tomorrow.......

 

[SourSmoke]

Here is something interesting to think about. My parents are regular sort of upper middle class 9-5ers. Use the internet a bit but get most of their news through the newspaper and nightly television. They have a subscription to Time magazine and read it regularly.

I was talking to them about 9/11 conspiracy stuff the other day and they had no clue about building 7. They looked at me like I was crazy when I started to describe another building falling down and showed them video footage of it.

It would be really interesting to know the percentage of Americans who don't know about building 7. That conversation with my parents surprised me.

 

[idiit]

direct quote from the man himself. nwo/globalist comment. nwo/globalist is not political. it's a corporation. it's a corporate takeover literally. ppl that think this is political don't get it. if we can't post it they won't be able to get it. the nwo has insider ( filthy stinkin rich 1%'ers) political maneuvering. there is no outsider nwo politicking allowed.

 

[idiit]

 

[Wiggs Dannyboy]

I went and looked up those quotes. The Bush quote seemed very questionable...who in their right mind would implicate themselves and their family in such a way? Not impossible, but highly unlikely. So, when I googled the quote, this is what I got (anyone interested can click on the various links to see what others have found when they investigated this quote):

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...uld be chased down in the streets and lynched

The quote attributed to JFK also seems very unlikely to be coming out of the mouth of a sitting president of the US. So, I googled that quote as well, and these are the resulsts that came up (again, anyone interested can click on the links to see what others have found when they investigated this quote):

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...oble office, I intend to expose this plot JFK


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[Green lung]

LoL its so easy to debunk theses idiots.



Any person will a brain could google those "quotes" and figure out they are bogus.


How long did that take you Wiggs 2min, wiggs these guys don't even have basic critical thinking skills, you see what I mean lol.



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[Weird]

LoL its so easy to debunk theses idiots.



Any person will a brain could google those "quotes" and figure out they are bogus.


How long did that take you Wiggs 2min, wiggs these guys don't even have basic critical thinking skills, you see what I mean lol.



.

its how our brain works thus the efficiency of exploitation in this manner

its our human nature that is being exploited and the development of a mind that works in a manner that it can uncover misdirection manipulation and ruse takes time and experience

 

[trichrider]

...and a desire for clarity in a chaotic world.