PowderyMildew at WK6 question....

[Coconutz]

my one is the bayer garden multirose concentrate 2 it is active for 10 -21 days

Thats not even close to the same thing.
However thats not listed as safe for consumable crops either!

 

[Snype]

my one is the bayer garden multirose concentrate 2 it is active for 10 -21 days

The label for that product is also only for ornamental plants. There's a reason why these products are not made for food crops. Just don't want people to get the wrong idea.

 

[willyweed]

The label for that product is also only for ornamental plants. There's a reason why these products are not made for food crops. Just don't want people to get the wrong idea.

totally understand snype, i did not expect it to say suitable for cannabis on the label either . everything for sale regarding powdery mildew has some sort of toxicity issue : except water and milk and perhaps the product below actinovate (if anybody has any feedback on this product please tell us all about it !)
thank you all for your input.ww

 

[Coconutz]

totally understand snype, i did not expect it to say suitable for cannabis on the label either . everything for sale regarding powdery mildew has some sort of toxicity issue : except water and milk .
thank you all for your input.ww

http://www.naturalindustries.com/retail/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13&Itemid=3
ACTINOVATE
Stops Lawn Diseases
• Brown Patch (Rhizoctonia)
• Dollarspot (Sclerotinia)
• Take-all Patch (Gaeumannomyces graminis)
• Pythium Blights
Prevents Root Diseases in Ornamentals & Vegetables
• Pythium
• Phytophthora
• Rhizoctonia
• Verticillium
• Fusarium
• Late Blight
Attacks Foliar Diseases
• Powdery Mildew
• Downy Mildew
• Grey Mold (Botrytis)
• Fire Blight (Erwinia)
• Leaf Spots and Rusts
• Black Spot (Diplocarpon rosae)
Uses & Benefits
• For organic lawncare
• For use on vegetables, herb gardens, annuals, perennials,
trees, shrubs & hydroponics
• Safe for pets, people and the environment
• 100% water–soluble product
• Available in 20-gram, 2-ounce and new 18-ounce sizes
• One 2-oz bag treats 5,000 sq, ft. of lawn or 550 plants

 

[SPG*]

Ok mofo's! .debate over

Ipad pics..*&^%$£)(+!!?%*&!!?
pears,apples [....] 2 weeks is all thats needed so ODW feel safe to use "this product",Anyway

Snype,the Ingredients of this Systemic Solution Must be Totally Safe to Induce then (after 2 weeks),bro



Reason[if ya noticed] i keep going off line and back on is because the ruddy ipads power keeps going down on me,then i charge it (takes ages,get too 2% ZZzzz) then it goes again quickly.,,Sigh...

Hmmn,does that mean its undetectable via smoking tho!? for me YES

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

I can use both products 1 wk before harvest coconutz and SPG?
I got 1 wk left and it seems to be slowly getting worse and spreading between the StrawberryDogshit #3's.
Something must be done or game over for these girls.

The H2o2 dip and rinse didnt really do anything, that I can see. I harvested a small branch that was hit pretty good and did the dip and rinse thing with a much stronger H2O2 solution.
I will look at it today and see how it looks after harvesting it. If I wouldnt smoke it, then they are all getting tossed in the garbage and I lost 50% of my crop.
The PM is on just these plants. My environment is perfect. The Power Kush's never got touched. The PM isnt on the leaves. Its on the sugar leaf were there are mass amounts of crystals.
It was getting down to 63* at night so I put my exhaust from the charcoal filter -thru my lamps- and out, on the Environment computer instead of exhausting 24/7. When it gets to 75*, it will turn on the exhaust, scrub the stink, and cool it off.
My RH has been a steady 35%.

 

[SPG*]

Lol,s'what i said^,well.. 2 weeks for Bayers..

 

[Snype]

Ok mofo's! .debate over

Snype,the Ingredients of this Systemic Solution Must be Totally Safe to Induce then (after 2 weeks),bro





Hmmn,does that mean its undetectable via smoking tho!? for me YES

That's the same active ingredient as Eagle 20E. In April, 1999, myclobutanil was added to the list of chemicals know to the state of California to cause reproductive toxicity, specifically for developmental toxicity and male reproductive toxicity.

After some time they changed their mind. That doesn't mean the chemical is safe. It just means that big money will have its way.

 

[Snype]

http://extension.psu.edu/pests/plant-diseases/all-fact-sheets/powdery-mildew-cross-listing

"Conditions Favoring Powdery Mildew
High relative humidity at night
Low relative humidity during day
70-80F (22-27C) temperatures (These conditions prevail in spring and fall)
The spores are carried by air currents and germinate on the leaf surface. Liquid water on leaves inhibits spore germination. The fungus grows on the leaf surface but sends fine threads (haustoria) into the cells to obtain nutrients. From the time a spore germinates to the time new spores form may require only 48 hr. High humidity favors spore formation while low humidity favors spore dispersal.

Some powdery mildew are inhibited by free moisture on leaves while others are favored by wetness on leaf surfaces.

Managing Powdery Mildew In Greenhouses
When conditions are favorable for 3-6 consecutive days, heat and ventilate in late afternoon to reduce night humidity.

Liquid water inhibits spore germination for most powdery mildews. Therefore, syringing the leaves during the day at times of low humidity greatly inhibits infection and can protect the plant. Only syringe if other leaf diseases are not a problem since other pathogens require liquid water to infect. Syringing may be the best approach at locations where chemical use is not feasible or desirable and on crops for which there are no registered fungicides."

 

[Coconutz]

http://extension.psu.edu/pests/plant-diseases/all-fact-sheets/powdery-mildew-cross-listing

"Conditions Favoring Powdery Mildew
High relative humidity at night
Low relative humidity during day
70-80F (22-27C) temperatures (These conditions prevail in spring and fall)
The spores are carried by air currents and germinate on the leaf surface. Liquid water on leaves inhibits spore germination. The fungus grows on the leaf surface but sends fine threads (haustoria) into the cells to obtain nutrients. From the time a spore germinates to the time new spores form may require only 48 hr. High humidity favors spore formation while low humidity favors spore dispersal.

Some powdery mildew are inhibited by free moisture on leaves while others are favored by wetness on leaf surfaces.

Managing Powdery Mildew In Greenhouses
When conditions are favorable for 3-6 consecutive days, heat and ventilate in late afternoon to reduce night humidity.

Liquid water inhibits spore germination for most powdery mildews. Therefore, syringing the leaves during the day at times of low humidity greatly inhibits infection and can protect the plant. Only syringe if other leaf diseases are not a problem since other pathogens require liquid water to infect. Syringing may be the best approach at locations where chemical use is not feasible or desirable and on crops for which there are no registered fungicides."

People should study vpd. A lot of people are bewildered when they get pm at low rh (55% and below is considered extremely low for plants at 75+*)
I try and keep my RH up and dont run any deheuy with my lights on. I dont mind it anywhere from 55-75, but Its usually around 60+
My night RH is set to 60 on one dehuey and 65 on the other that almost never kicks on. The room stays around 60-65 with temps around 72-75 at night during late flower.
Im moving around a lot of air and Im not at all worried about pm, but I own actinovate just in case the shit goes down.
I think some of the lacto bacteria in actinovate is also in caps(dont quote me on that).
Might be the active ingredient that helps when spraying milk on the plants(dont quote me on that).

 

[caligirl]

sure hope u are the only one smoking your poisonous buds

 

[caligirl]

your better off removing the leaves and not spraying anything but ph water on buds.

 

[BredForMeds]

When you use a chemical that is systemic, it doesn't matter if you only spray the leaves because it's systemic. It still gets into the buds. LOL! You guys are crazy. Definitely not smoking anyones buds at the IC420.

lol haahha . I hear that.. the last time I bought buds I couldn't even smoke it.. I had to give it away haha..

now wen I get low. I send them to a friend that grows instead. so I can smoke the finest of my stash.. and not have any of my customers pissed.. but wen I am up and ready. everyone runs back.. I have more selection. and ontop of that.. I grow better bud then my buddy. and hes hard headed so he wont take any advice.. and thinks his is the best on earth.. haah. so I just leave it alone.

 

[BredForMeds]

I can use both products 1 wk before harvest coconutz and SPG?
I got 1 wk left and it seems to be slowly getting worse and spreading between the StrawberryDogshit #3's.
Something must be done or game over for these girls.

The H2o2 dip and rinse didnt really do anything, that I can see. I harvested a small branch that was hit pretty good and did the dip and rinse thing with a much stronger H2O2 solution.
I will look at it today and see how it looks after harvesting it. If I wouldnt smoke it, then they are all getting tossed in the garbage and I lost 50% of my crop.
The PM is on just these plants. My environment is perfect. The Power Kush's never got touched. The PM isnt on the leaves. Its on the sugar leaf were there are mass amounts of crystals.
It was getting down to 63* at night so I put my exhaust from the charcoal filter -thru my lamps- and out, on the Environment computer instead of exhausting 24/7. When it gets to 75*, it will turn on the exhaust, scrub the stink, and cool it off.
My RH has been a steady 35%.

like they said systemic.. meaning u mite not see it . but its THERE. becareful.. and ur best bet.. is either have a friend with a closed loop system make it all into different strains of bho..

 

[SPG*]

LOL. Talk about """peoples""".. Entourage.. THEY CHASE ME TO MY THREAD SOLEY TO THROW CRAP AT SPG* btw^ thats Crap AND WRONG. ODW you have seen that bottle.. Be wise to this time consuming crap and go off/from them,mann.

no offence

 

[Coconutz]

I can use both products 1 wk before harvest coconutz and SPG?
I got 1 wk left and it seems to be slowly getting worse and spreading between the StrawberryDogshit #3's.
Something must be done or game over for these girls.

The H2o2 dip and rinse didnt really do anything, that I can see. I harvested a small branch that was hit pretty good and did the dip and rinse thing with a much stronger H2O2 solution.
I will look at it today and see how it looks after harvesting it. If I wouldnt smoke it, then they are all getting tossed in the garbage and I lost 50% of my crop.
The PM is on just these plants. My environment is perfect. The Power Kush's never got touched. The PM isnt on the leaves. Its on the sugar leaf were there are mass amounts of crystals.
It was getting down to 63* at night so I put my exhaust from the charcoal filter -thru my lamps- and out, on the Environment computer instead of exhausting 24/7. When it gets to 75*, it will turn on the exhaust, scrub the stink, and cool it off.
My RH has been a steady 35%.

You could apply actinovate at any time.
Ive heard of people burning pistils with it when mixed too strong or with lights on... I forget.
I googled it a while back

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

your better off removing the leaves and not spraying anything but ph water on buds.

Thats exactly what I did Caligirl.
I decided not to put anything on my flowers except the fatfree milk solution and high ph water.
I would rather loose the whole crop than put myself or anyone else at risk. The PM is getting bad! I trimmed all the buds as if they were harvested on my GDoggyPurps. I flushed and am harvesting today 1 wk early. Im also harvesting the SDS#1's 1 week early before they get it too.
The other SDS#3's and #4's are getting trimmed, flushed, and harvested 2 weeks early. Wk 8 instead of 10.
I wont be making hash with the suger leaf. Its all goin in the trash. Even if it was good trim. Im not riskin it.
After I flush and trim all the SDS's, I may just see how long they can go before I see PM on the calyxs.
As soon as I even suspect its on the flowers, there getting chopped ready or not.
I just pray that the buds are done enough to be meds. 2 wks early on a 10 wk strain SUKZ! Thats when it gets all its weight and density.
But I guess its better than tossing every single SDS #3 and #4. 50% of my crop lost turned into a 20% loss instead.
If its good and hard enough.

 

[BredForMeds]

good luck.. I hope it all works out.. sucks when these things happen. but we learn from our mistakes.. and become a better grower at the end of it all.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Thanx Meds......
The Power Kush didnt get touched at all.
I ran these strains twice before making the switch to perpetual. Just to make sure there wasnt gonna be any problems.
I guess the temps below 65* are too much for them. My RH has been a steady 35% - 40%
Temps have been steady at 71* - 75* day. Night has been on the colder side 62* - 66* but still within a 10* dif. so its def systemic.
Just took abit of cold to bring it out I guess.

I just switched my inline fan/exhaust on my charcoal filter to run on my computer instead of nonstop 24/7. This keeps it at 71* at night now. Its waaaay to late though. I should have done this 6 wks ago. I wqas worried about stink. Im more worried about the cold now and that trumps the stink.
You are right. Live and learn. Im always learning something along the way. I just hope it never costs me a crop.

 

[Coconutz]

Vapor Pressure Deficit

The green area is where you want to be for disease resistance.
Avoid being in the red or blue and you should be fine.
There are some good threads on IC about it.
Make sure your plants arent stressed out and keep the environment dialed and you wont get pm