PowderyMildew at WK6 question....

[Coconutz]

Guess that the 3 in 1 here is too toxic for peeps over seas!
The UK version is still not something Im spraying on anyones flowering plants!

tebuconazole
Though the U.S. Food and Drug Administration considers this fungicide to be safe for humans, it may still pose a risk. It is listed as a possible carcinogen in the United States Environmental Protection Agency Office of Pesticide Programs carcinogen list with a rating of C (possible carcinogen). Its acute toxicity is moderate.[2] According to the World Health Organization toxicity classification, it is listed as III, which means slightly hazardous.

Due to the potential for endocrine-disrupting effects, tebuconazole was assessed by the Swedish Chemicals Agency [3] as being potentially removed from the market by EU regulation 1107/2009

Although deltamethrin is generally considered safe to use around humans, it is still neurotoxic to humans. Deltamethrin is able to pass from a woman's skin through her blood and into her breast milk.

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[northerngrafta]

Sb plant invigerator is the way to go it's manufactured for the food industry to be used with no harvest interval it's prevention not the cure but it shifts the powder completely for 2-3 days that's from a heavy infection anyone used the UV Cleanlight for PM

 

[willyweed]

Guess that the 3 in 1 here is too toxic for peeps over seas!
The UK version is still not something Im spraying on anyones flowering plants!

tebuconazole
Though the U.S. Food and Drug Administration considers this fungicide to be safe for humans, it may still pose a risk. It is listed as a possible carcinogen in the United States Environmental Protection Agency Office of Pesticide Programs carcinogen list with a rating of C (possible carcinogen). Its acute toxicity is moderate.[2] According to the World Health Organization toxicity classification, it is listed as III, which means slightly hazardous.

Due to the potential for endocrine-disrupting effects, tebuconazole was assessed by the Swedish Chemicals Agency [3] as being potentially removed from the market by EU regulation 1107/2009

Although deltamethrin is generally considered safe to use around humans, it is still neurotoxic to humans. Deltamethrin is able to pass from a woman's skin through her blood and into her breast milk.

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http://www.fao.org/fileadmin/templa...sts_Pesticides/JMPR/Evaluation94/tebucona.pdf
check this link out if you are still unsure or worried about after effects .basically the chicken had crapped it out after being given a large dosage ?
what i have put on my plants has worked very well and means i do not have to destroy my entire crop ,as you advised me to do!
with minimal risk to human health! and the weed is tasting great and untainted .also i do not breast feed ,and advise against smoking joints when breastfeeding .ww
ps.i did not read anywhere in this thread that the solution was only to be organic

 

[Coconutz]

Looks like it has a 1 year half life...

 

[Snype]

http://www.fao.org/fileadmin/templa...sts_Pesticides/JMPR/Evaluation94/tebucona.pdf
check this link out if you are still unsure or worried about after effects .basically the chicken had crapped it out after being given a large dosage ?
what i have put on my plants has worked very well and means i do not have to destroy my entire crop ,as you advised me to do!
with minimal risk to human health! and the weed is tasting great and untainted .also i do not breast feed ,and advice against smoking joints when breastfeeding .ww
ps.i did not read anywhere in this thread that the solution was only to be organic

You should listen to Coconutz on this one. You should always try finding organic approaches that aren't harmful to humans. You can't prove that these products aren't harmful to humans. Try looking at it that way. Taking shortcuts with chemicals is never a good idea unless you are the only one smoking the product. Companies and even governments paint pictures all the time of why certain things in life are fine to use when they are actually not. Big money runs the world, you know that. You can't trust what some people say. Get your environment back in line and the PM will go away. And PM is not systemic.

 

[Coconutz]

You should listen to Coconutz on this one. You should always try finding organic approaches that aren't harmful to humans. You can't prove that these products aren't harmful to humans. Try looking at it that way. Taking shortcuts with chemicals is never a good idea unless you are the only one smoking the product. Companies and even governments paint pictures all the time of why certain things in life are fine to use when they are actually not. Big money runs the world, you know that. You can't trust what some people say. Get your environment back in line and the PM will go away.

DDT IS GOOD FOR ME-E-E!

Golly, those ants and flies sure are dangerous!

 

[vapor]

get your room right and put a preventative program in place and learn from this lesson, you could use a closed loop butane extraction system and filter pm out, and have a bunch of oil. You are in a rock, inside of a hard hard place, you can rinse with water/h20 but it changes the taste flavor buzz etc.////

 

[Coconutz]

Yea, you can get the pm off, but you cant get the pesticides out!

 

[willyweed]

how do you know? have you tried this first hand ? i also put silica and chlorine in the mix ,should i get a little sticker for the baggy with a warning on it?

 

[Snype]

PM is everywhere. If you have PM, you either have poor environment conditions or unhealthy plants. Bring your plants back to health and your environment back in line and you won't get PM. When I get PM, I spray my plants with Neem Oil or Water and it all goes away. Of course I fix my environment at the same time.

This is exactly why I only smoke my own products. A lot of internet growers don't see these chemicals as bad.

 

[willyweed]

i also grow with silica ,as do many others members :
Silica ingested orally is essentially nontoxic, with an LD50 of 5000 mg/kg.[3] On the other hand, inhaling finely divided crystalline silica dust can lead to silicosis, bronchitis, or cancer, as the dust becomes lodged in the lungs and continuously irritates them, reducing lung capacities.[24] Prior to new rules issued in 2013 OSHA allowed 100 micrograms a cubic meter of air. The new regulations reduce the amount to 50 µg/m3 down from 100 µg/m3. The exposure limit for the construction industry is also set at 50 µg/m3 down from 250 µg/m3.[25]

 

[Coconutz]

i also grow with silica ,as do many others members :
Silica ingested orally is essentially nontoxic, with an LD50 of 5000 mg/kg.[3] On the other hand, inhaling finely divided crystalline silica dust can lead to silicosis, bronchitis, or cancer, as the dust becomes lodged in the lungs and continuously irritates them, reducing lung capacities.[24] Prior to new rules issued in 2013 OSHA allowed 100 micrograms a cubic meter of air. The new regulations reduce the amount to 50 µg/m3 down from 100 µg/m3. The exposure limit for the construction industry is also set at 50 µg/m3 down from 250 µg/m3.[25]

Because its like glass...
Theres no glass in your plants if you are feeding them silica.
There is plenty of silica in the ground already. Its the most abundant mineral on earth...
Its not like some pesticide that is in your weed

 

[Snype]

i did not spray the buds ,just the leaves.bud tastes great .

When you use a chemical that is systemic, it doesn't matter if you only spray the leaves because it's systemic. It still gets into the buds. LOL! You guys are crazy. Definitely not smoking anyones buds at the IC420.

 

[Coconutz]

^that!
Thats why I started growing my own in the first place!
I dont want to smoke shit that is even the slightest bit questionable!
Thats also why we need the not helpful button back!
I cant neg rep until I get 1000 posts!

 

[willyweed]

In the body crystalline silica particles do not dissolve over clinically relevant periods. Silica crystals can activate the NLRP3 inflammasome inside macrophages and dendritic cells and thereby result in processing of pro-Interleukin 1 beta into its mature form. Chronic exposure to silica may thereby account for some of its health hazards, as interleukin-1 is a highly pro-inflammatory cytokine in the immune system.[26][27][28] This effect can create an occupational hazard for people working with sandblasting equipment, products that contain powdered crystalline silica and so on. Children, asthmatics of any age, allergy sufferers, and the elderly (all of whom have reduced lung capacity) can be affected in much less time. Amorphous silica, such as fumed silica is not associated with development of silicosis, but may cause irreversible lung damage in some cases.[29] Laws restricting silica exposure with respect to the silicosis hazard specify that they are concerned only with silica that is both crystalline and dust-forming.

 

[Snype]

^that!
Thats why I started growing my own in the first place!
I dont want to smoke shit that is even the slightest bit questionable!
Thats also why we need the not helpful button back!
I cant neg rep until I get 1000 posts!

Don't you love the excuses that these chemical guys have for their use of poisons? Going on tangents of other chemicals to try and make a point!

 

[willyweed]

PM is everywhere. If you have PM, you either have poor environment conditions or unhealthy plants. Bring your plants back to health and your environment back in line and you won't get PM. When I get PM, I spray my plants with Neem Oil or Water and it all goes away. Of course I fix my environment at the same time.

This is exactly why I only smoke my own products. A lot of internet growers don't see these chemicals as bad.

neem oil toxicity :
Studies done when Azadirachtin (the primary active pesticidal ingredient in neem oil) was approved as a pesticide showed that when neem leaves were fed to male albino rats for 11 weeks, 100% (reversible) infertility resulted.[4]
Neem oil and other neem products such as neem leaves and neem tea should not be consumed by pregnant women, women trying to conceive, or children.[citation needed]
There is some evidence that internal medicinal use may be associated with liver damage in children.[5]

do you put a warning on this as well guys ?

 

[Snype]

neem oil toxicity :
Studies done when Azadirachtin (the primary active pesticidal ingredient in neem oil) was approved as a pesticide showed that when neem leaves were fed to male albino rats for 11 weeks, 100% (reversible) infertility resulted.[4]
Neem oil and other neem products such as neem leaves and neem tea should not be consumed by pregnant women, women trying to conceive, or children.[citation needed]
There is some evidence that internal medicinal use may be associated with liver damage in children.[5]

do you put a warning on this as well guys ?

You're really reaching now. LOL!

Neem oil is a natural substance extracted from the seeds of the neem tree (Azadirachta indica), an evergreen native to India. Long used in certain systems of traditional medicine (such as ayurveda), neem oil is thought to offer a number of benefits when applied to the skin and/or hair.

Neem oil contains several fatty acids thought to be beneficial to the skin, such as oleic acid and linoleic acid.


Too much water can kill you too. Should we stop using water on our plants as well. LOL!

 

[Coconutz]

How is feeding neem leaves to a rat the same as using a neem seed extract on leaves that wont be consumed anywhere near the same, or even close to spraying a systemic pesticide on your plants just before harvest?
Holy shit man! I feel sorry for you!
Ive only used neem in veg and cant say that any food Ive ever bought at the store that was treated with neem ever came with a warning.
Its still not the same as spraying a systemic that is a known carcinogen and neurotoxin on your plants weeks before harvest.
The worst part is that you recommended a newbie do the same to their plants!
Just say you are sorry and quit defending your bad advice!

 

[willyweed]

we are not talking about rubbing neem oil on our skin, as you are well aware !
we are talking about putting it on plants and then either smoking or eating the plants (big difference )