Fucking sick dude! I've never seen a terpene graph like that which showed which terpenes are which, and what they're good for. Un fucking believeable
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F45 v3.0 "Ricky's Dope Farm"
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Fucking sick dude! I've never seen a terpene graph like that which showed which terpenes are which, and what they're good for. Un fucking believeable
Offline for a few days...
Offline for a few days...
I am still here, and things at the new site are going very well. First room is almost done stretching, and there are the first pre-flowers showing. I have two of three veg tables set up on ebb and flow with growstones and net pots. The third will be loaded in the next couple of days. I am shooting for March 15th for the flip of the second room, so I am in good shape.
I have rooted GG#4!! Thanks to a local member who hooked me up with some unrooted cuttings a couple weeks ago. I am very excited to run her hard!
There are so many good things going on, I just don't have the time to sit down at a desk. I am now providing the active ingredient with my concentrated tincture, for a line of hard crack candy (toffee, brittle, etc...), and gourmet chocolate truffles! We have nailed down the dosage on the candy at 20 mg a piece, and will be placing a large order with the kitchen this weekend. We are doing a test run with the truffles (with a possible 16 different flavors to choose from!), on Friday, and I expect the same lab tests as the hard crack candy.
I drew out the issue with the Landlord as long as I could, and came up a couple weeks short in order to finish my last closet run. I bagged the two WiFi Alien, and an Urkle, but the Sis, and Blue Dream will not be done enough. Oh well, at least I have an endless demand for my shatter
It may be a couple weeks before I return, but I will have mid flower pics by then, and should have results of the latest venture.
Stay safe out there!
Offline for a few days...
I am still here, and things at the new site are going very well. First room is almost done stretching, and there are the first pre-flowers showing. I have two of three veg tables set up on ebb and flow with growstones and net pots. The third will be loaded in the next couple of days. I am shooting for March 15th for the flip of the second room, so I am in good shape.
I have rooted GG#4!! Thanks to a local member who hooked me up with some unrooted cuttings a couple weeks ago. I am very excited to run her hard!
There are so many good things going on, I just don't have the time to sit down at a desk. I am now providing the active ingredient with my concentrated tincture, for a line of hard crack candy (toffee, brittle, etc...), and gourmet chocolate truffles! We have nailed down the dosage on the candy at 20 mg a piece, and will be placing a large order with the kitchen this weekend. We are doing a test run with the truffles (with a possible 16 different flavors to choose from!), on Friday, and I expect the same lab tests as the hard crack candy.
I drew out the issue with the Landlord as long as I could, and came up a couple weeks short in order to finish my last closet run. I bagged the two WiFi Alien, and an Urkle, but the Sis, and Blue Dream will not be done enough. Oh well, at least I have an endless demand for my shatter
It may be a couple weeks before I return, but I will have mid flower pics by then, and should have results of the latest venture.
Stay safe out there!
Room #2 in Veg
Room #2 in Veg
While I am packing, I figure I can upload a photo. Unfortunately, I don't have recent flower pics, but I will get them after the move.
I set up three 2 x 4 ebb and flow tables with 5" net pots. I returned all my 3" rockwool blocks, to avoid the moisture retention variances between mediums during transplant. I plan on just dropping the 5" net pots into the 2 gallon ebb and flow buckets without skipping a beat.
I have 28 SSOG, 20 Headband, and 8 various strains. I have a couple Tahoe, and WiFi that get front seat regardless of plant numbers...
Room #2 in Veg
While I am packing, I figure I can upload a photo. Unfortunately, I don't have recent flower pics, but I will get them after the move.
I set up three 2 x 4 ebb and flow tables with 5" net pots. I returned all my 3" rockwool blocks, to avoid the moisture retention variances between mediums during transplant. I plan on just dropping the 5" net pots into the 2 gallon ebb and flow buckets without skipping a beat.
I have 28 SSOG, 20 Headband, and 8 various strains. I have a couple Tahoe, and WiFi that get front seat regardless of plant numbers...
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Yes, and so far, so good. My thinking is the 3" blocks retain too much moisture vs the rocks. I am transplanting the small macro plugs into 5" net pots, and so far I am really liking the results. New green growth with no delay, and I anticipate the same lack of delay when they go into the 2 gallon pots for flower.
Nice. I'm helping setup a grow that will be primarily flood drain tables. The owner was asking about those stones a couple weeks ago. I've never run them personally, so I thought I'd ask. Sounded like he was going to use them on a few tables anyway to try out. They're ph stable right out of the bag right? No prewash and/or soak needed?
SRGB
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Mister_D:
Nice. I'm helping setup a grow that will be primarily flood drain tables. The owner was asking about those stones a couple weeks ago. I've never run them personally, so I thought I'd ask. Sounded like he was going to use them on a few tables anyway to try out. They're ph stable right out of the bag right? No prewash and/or soak needed?
Hi, Mister_D.
If there were a source for fine or 1/4 inch pumice, it might be an interesting alternative media that the soilless garden could experiment with. Inert, good tensile strength (doen't crumble as perlite might), resuable, permits oxygen into and out of the vesel (gas exchange), drains well yet maintains moisture on its collidial surface (cracks and crevices, where roots might tend to grow into). Other options that we have experimented with were washed stone, pea gravel, and ordinary 1/4- gravel from a quarry-type est. We have posted several illustrations of different types of pumice at a thread we began entitled `Soilless Gardening`. During various experiments, we found pumice to be a particularly versatile medium. Also, available in bulk (relatively universally) at quality landscaping establishments; perhaps particularly advantageous if the prospective application were to potentially employ a fair volume of total media for the experiment.
@Arminius. We hope it is ok to post an illustration here of a preivious experiment with pumice.
It was an examiniation of an extracted root mass, after experimenting with providing top-fed water (or nutrient solution) at only once per 24hrs. The smaller particles were `fine` pumice 1/16-, which were loosely dispersed into the media. There are also illustrations of some previous experiments employing only `fine` pumice at the above mentioned thread. We have also experimented with 3/4 inch ('large`) pumice, which might be similar to large `lava rock` - without the accompanying `sludge` drainaage.
We found each size to have its own advantageous properties. Fine (1/16-) worked well for rooting scions, contributing to overall finer root formation and growth; 1/8 inch (depicted below) worked well for nearly any application, while 3/4 inch seemed to provide the greatest channels for oxygen flow into and out of the vessel, contrubting to, at least from what we could determine with the SRBGB`s we were experimenting with, a generally greater diameter root formation and continued root growth outside of the SRBGB, as compared to the fine variety of pumice. Again. the 1/8 inch variety, at least from our experiments, permitted a consistent balance between moisture rentention, drainage, and air flow within its structure, though the 3/4 permitted the greatest total oxygen volume potential within the vessel. In general, we found that the finer the media, the greater the potential moisture retention. In conclusion, different particle sizes could be employed for different applications, or mixed together for a specific experimental application.
Interestingly, as an aside, when we experimented with employing only large pumice (3/4 inch), we noted that although the total volume of moisture available within the vessel was less than would be available with fine or 1/4 inch varieties, roots tended to grow even more vigously into only the surrounding air - outside of the SRBGB. Our tentative description of that phenomenon might be that if root have approximately equal access to both moisture and air, they might develop differentiated cellular and physical structures in order to grow equally into both essential `elements` (water and `air`); though `air` in the environment is not entirely made up of oxygen; i.e.g, the `air` on planet earth is composed of approximately 20% nitrogen. In any event, just sharing a finding from experiments with `extremes` (draught conditions; root growth in differernt media; other extremes) in SRBGB`s that we found particularly interesting.
Pumice - 1/8 inch
We hope that this post might be helpful.
Best,
/SRGB/
Nice. I'm helping setup a grow that will be primarily flood drain tables. The owner was asking about those stones a couple weeks ago. I've never run them personally, so I thought I'd ask. Sounded like he was going to use them on a few tables anyway to try out. They're ph stable right out of the bag right? No prewash and/or soak needed?
Hi, Mister_D.
If there were a source for fine or 1/4 inch pumice, it might be an interesting alternative media that the soilless garden could experiment with. Inert, good tensile strength (doen't crumble as perlite might), resuable, permits oxygen into and out of the vesel (gas exchange), drains well yet maintains moisture on its collidial surface (cracks and crevices, where roots might tend to grow into). Other options that we have experimented with were washed stone, pea gravel, and ordinary 1/4- gravel from a quarry-type est. We have posted several illustrations of different types of pumice at a thread we began entitled `Soilless Gardening`. During various experiments, we found pumice to be a particularly versatile medium. Also, available in bulk (relatively universally) at quality landscaping establishments; perhaps particularly advantageous if the prospective application were to potentially employ a fair volume of total media for the experiment.
@Arminius. We hope it is ok to post an illustration here of a preivious experiment with pumice.
It was an examiniation of an extracted root mass, after experimenting with providing top-fed water (or nutrient solution) at only once per 24hrs. The smaller particles were `fine` pumice 1/16-, which were loosely dispersed into the media. There are also illustrations of some previous experiments employing only `fine` pumice at the above mentioned thread. We have also experimented with 3/4 inch ('large`) pumice, which might be similar to large `lava rock` - without the accompanying `sludge` drainaage.
We found each size to have its own advantageous properties. Fine (1/16-) worked well for rooting scions, contributing to overall finer root formation and growth; 1/8 inch (depicted below) worked well for nearly any application, while 3/4 inch seemed to provide the greatest channels for oxygen flow into and out of the vessel, contrubting to, at least from what we could determine with the SRBGB`s we were experimenting with, a generally greater diameter root formation and continued root growth outside of the SRBGB, as compared to the fine variety of pumice. Again. the 1/8 inch variety, at least from our experiments, permitted a consistent balance between moisture rentention, drainage, and air flow within its structure, though the 3/4 permitted the greatest total oxygen volume potential within the vessel. In general, we found that the finer the media, the greater the potential moisture retention. In conclusion, different particle sizes could be employed for different applications, or mixed together for a specific experimental application.
Interestingly, as an aside, when we experimented with employing only large pumice (3/4 inch), we noted that although the total volume of moisture available within the vessel was less than would be available with fine or 1/4 inch varieties, roots tended to grow even more vigously into only the surrounding air - outside of the SRBGB. Our tentative description of that phenomenon might be that if root have approximately equal access to both moisture and air, they might develop differentiated cellular and physical structures in order to grow equally into both essential `elements` (water and `air`); though `air` in the environment is not entirely made up of oxygen; i.e.g, the `air` on planet earth is composed of approximately 20% nitrogen. In any event, just sharing a finding from experiments with `extremes` (draught conditions; root growth in differernt media; other extremes) in SRBGB`s that we found particularly interesting.
Pumice - 1/8 inch
We hope that this post might be helpful.
Best,
/SRGB/
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for what its worth I've tried hydroton in flood tables and it didnt do as well in comparison to coco or coco/perlite.
I recommended coco also, but ultimately it's not my show. I'm just there for design and setup
Head grower likes ebb/flow with hydrotron. Was like pulling teeth with this guy to try anything new......... The stones are his partners idea 
. It's whatever to me 
SRGB - thanks for the input, useful as always :tiphat,: but like I said above it's not my show.
Sorry for the delay, but I just got internet up at the new site.
They state on the bag to soak for at least 24 hours, rinse, and soak again if possible.
The first table was rinsed twice, and was PH stable out the gate.
The second table was only rinsed once, and it took me an extra couple days to get the PH stable.
The third table was rinsed twice, and rained on. The plants in the third tray look the best for being the newest.
Day 30 Update!
Day 30 Update!
This will be in several posts to get all the photos in.
I will try to get you guys caught up to what is happening later tonight.
Day 30 full room shot. There are a few gaps in the screen, but the right side should pull 5 units by itself.
C99
OGHC in the middle, surrounded by Chem Sis, Urkle, and SDD.
Forum Cut on the left, Super Lemon Haze for most of the right side.
Super Lemon Haze
Day 30 Update!
This will be in several posts to get all the photos in.
I will try to get you guys caught up to what is happening later tonight.
Day 30 full room shot. There are a few gaps in the screen, but the right side should pull 5 units by itself.
C99
OGHC in the middle, surrounded by Chem Sis, Urkle, and SDD.
Forum Cut on the left, Super Lemon Haze for most of the right side.
Super Lemon Haze
Thanks bro! That SLH is for sure a keeper...
Unfortunately no vert for now... If the interest isn't there for this thread in this forum, I could move it, but I prefer the Vert Crowd... The understanding I have with the retired grower, was to leave the system as is (just in case things didn't work out), but at the same time, it has been made very clear that I will have the whole property within six months, and can do what I want afterwards. It may not take that long before I convert one room to vert though. I got the green light to redo the plant count in Room #2. It had 66 plants like Room #1, and I reduced it to 24, with 4 plants per light.
Before:
After:
The Ebb and Grow system was stretched as far as possible, and requires daily top offs after stretch. I measured the tank after all sites are full, and it takes 40+ out of 60 gallons. After 15 or so gallons, the pump is sucking air during feed cycles. By reducing the plant count to a third of before, it should now only take 15 gallons to fill the system, leaving 45 gallons to draw from, which should last me closer to a week before sucking air...
Picking 24 out of 60+ teens, what a dilemma...
Picking 24 out of 60+ teens, what a dilemma...
After reducing the plant count yesterday in Room #2 (Bravo), I loaded the buckets with Hydroton with just water. I will be draining the water, and loading the room tomorrow. I have been vegging plants expecting to need 66+, now I have decisions to make...
I could fill the room with Super Sour OG, but I have only had one tester run, that was not ideal, so I am hesitant in running a whole room of her. She did pull 3 oz each, but didn't even get the full light offered, so I think she can do better. The saving grace is that even pulled at 7 1/2 weeks, she tested at 20%. Looking forward, I will be growing plants for the sole purpose of harvesting milligrams of Cannabinoids, so it matters less. But for now, I still have flower buyers, and some elite cuts to choose from...
On this table I have 20 Headband, 4 DHOG, 2 ToG, 3 Sis, 1 Wifi Alien. With the Wifi Alien hitting 25% on a first run, I want to flower every cut I can. The stretch and structure is similar to my heavy yielding Tahoe cut, so I may do at least one light with them, and 1-2 lights of Headband. The Deadhead is a solid yielder, and my store is likely running low by now. Did I mention dilemma?...
The third table, despite being 10 days younger than the last, has a few that are ready to load as well. In the left corner are my 3 GG#4 that will not go into flower without giving up as many cuts as possible. Realistically, even though I would love to put some Glue into flower ASAP, they likely won't go into flower until the next round in Bravo. Those three will likely go outside when enough cuts are produced.
Picking 24 out of 60+ teens, what a dilemma...
After reducing the plant count yesterday in Room #2 (Bravo), I loaded the buckets with Hydroton with just water. I will be draining the water, and loading the room tomorrow. I have been vegging plants expecting to need 66+, now I have decisions to make...
I could fill the room with Super Sour OG, but I have only had one tester run, that was not ideal, so I am hesitant in running a whole room of her. She did pull 3 oz each, but didn't even get the full light offered, so I think she can do better. The saving grace is that even pulled at 7 1/2 weeks, she tested at 20%. Looking forward, I will be growing plants for the sole purpose of harvesting milligrams of Cannabinoids, so it matters less. But for now, I still have flower buyers, and some elite cuts to choose from...
On this table I have 20 Headband, 4 DHOG, 2 ToG, 3 Sis, 1 Wifi Alien. With the Wifi Alien hitting 25% on a first run, I want to flower every cut I can. The stretch and structure is similar to my heavy yielding Tahoe cut, so I may do at least one light with them, and 1-2 lights of Headband. The Deadhead is a solid yielder, and my store is likely running low by now. Did I mention dilemma?...
The third table, despite being 10 days younger than the last, has a few that are ready to load as well. In the left corner are my 3 GG#4 that will not go into flower without giving up as many cuts as possible. Realistically, even though I would love to put some Glue into flower ASAP, they likely won't go into flower until the next round in Bravo. Those three will likely go outside when enough cuts are produced.
Looks fantastic man, no worries about the thread being in vert I'm still very interested lol. Sounds like this guy's about to throw you the reins anyways so I'm sure the verties will get their fair share lol. You should tryPPK's for a cpl plants you will not be disappointed. I'd love you get some GG#4 or pretty much anything you have hahaha. Looks great man
