Coco is killing me!

[Hugh Midity]

no sweat bro, glad to help out, especially another sunshiner. that's pretty close to the tap ppm so I'd go with it, give them a good watering with the 6/9 and give them some time. hempys are simple as can be and unless you're running huge containers or a bunch of plants I'd go with the bagged and save the extra work in the future. once you get past this you'll be amazed how much they'll yield I think coming from soil

 

[johndoe123]

With ya running hempy flushing will be a pain in the ass... I ran hempys a few years back. My advice would be half strength 6/9 for a feeding. Never use Lucas with coco its way to strong. I run 6/9 as my base with different additives at different times. If your trying to save a buck why not go for AN Jungle Juice line. I don't like the fuckers but i buy it because in the end its the same damn product for half the price.....

 

[johndoe123]

One other thing I believe is essential to keep ya from salt buildups would be to add dripclean to your schedule. It is a blessing and the end to salt buildup in coco.

 

[Hugh Midity]

Never use Lucas with coco its way to strong.

One other thing I believe is essential to keep ya from salt buildups would be to add dripclean to your schedule. It is a blessing and the end to salt buildup in coco.

the gh schedule is basically the lucas with a few adjustments at different weeks plus grow for the first 3rd of flowering, cal mag and koolbloom, way stronger than 6/9 and my plants love it by the gallon with no burning and a noticeable increase in size and yield in coco, also I ran hempys for a few years and never had any salt buildup, never used dripclean and did quite well

 

[johndoe123]

lucas is 8-16 rez/h3ad formula is 6-9 huge difference!!!!

the gh schedule is basically the lucas with a few adjustments at different weeks plus grow for the first 3rd of flowering, cal mag and koolbloom, way stronger than 6/9 and my plants love it by the gallon with no burning and a noticeable increase in size and yield in coco, also I ran hempys for a few years and never had any salt buildup, never used dripclean and did quite well

not bickering with ya bro I grow huge trees in 30 gallon smarties so the dripclean has been essential for me and at the low dose why not use it and save a headache or 2

 

[Hugh Midity]

it is but that doesn't mean it's too much, the recirc schedule starts at 7.5-7.5-7.5 and goes up from there to 7.5-15-5ml lkb and again, they love it up. I'm not saying blast the plants with as much as you can I'm just sharing what works for me in coco. I used to use 6/9 religiously and thought the same

 

[Jnugg]

it is but that doesn't mean it's too much, the recirc schedule starts at 7.5-7.5-7.5 and goes up from there to 7.5-15-5ml lkb and again, they love it up. I'm not saying blast the plants with as much as you can I'm just sharing what works for me in coco. I used to use 6/9 religiously and thought the same

Exactly.

As my buddy DHF likes to say...there's more than one way to skin a mule and...mileage may vary.

Lot's of people say the standard lucas (8/16) is too strong for their plants in soil but,my plants last round in FFOF ate it the funk up!It's also one of those strain dependant variables.

 

[johndoe123]

6/9 is my base building block and i add different organics and supplements throughout. The only time I tried 8/16 was hand watering coco and it didn't work for me. Maybe it was the strain I was running hell i don't remember... Good luck with your issues though Jnugg hope ya get it figured out because when you do coco is the shit! Oh and I'm envious of you guys to I'm up here in Mi with 30 inches of snow on the ground....

 

[Jnugg]

Thanks John.

Don't be too envious now lol.While it's too damn cold for me up north,we're dealing with wet/cool right now and outdoor RH% of 80+%

 

[Green lung]

It does look like to much salts, I had that problem once when I got some Sunleaves coco, I ended up having to toss them and start over. Bonticare blocks have been great for me no flushing or anything just hydrate. it might be faster for you to just take clones and start over, I spent to much time trying fix the issue. The bonticare blocks are salt free for sure.



If all your plants look like that it will likely be from the huge amounts of salts.


If you have these problems with legit pre rinsed coco it could be from overwatering or even underwatering, ive never had any issue in coco with underfeeding or overfeeding or nutrient issues. Make sure you r not waterlogging the coco causing low oxygen levels in the coco, roots system will be weak in a low oxygen waterlogged coco, so if you have a great root system and still have these problems it probably is from the salts and PH, I noticed with my sunleaves coco the roots still really looked good but the plant looked like shit. any other time i had issues it was from overwatering/low o2, or underwatering/ drying too much or watering with the wrong PH water..

 

[Green lung]

I missed the part where you said you didn't have ph pen, that is essential for coco, that could vey well be the problem also.




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[Jnugg]

I fear it's a cluster fuck of issues from no pH up/down causing major swings in pH,high sodium content coir that needs to be rinsed,and the fact that they got severely rootbound in those 2 liter hempy's.

We'll see what happens after a week of them being put into their new 3 gallon coco hempy homes.If they fail,at least I've got the mom,and I'll be taking cuttings in the next few days.

 

[fishinnutt]

Psycho Platinum coco has been amazing to work with, some of the highest quality I have seen.

 

[jdkronyk101]

I always use Botanicare bricks. Put a brick in a tote in a bathtub, tote has a screened drain near the bottom. Let water run through to hydrate and rinse it until the drain water comes out clear. Doesn't take long at all. I tried a cheaper no-name coco before that took forever to rinse the salts out.

gotta go with famari here... was gonna suggest a 32 gallon trashcan throw a brick or two in and fill 1/4 full with ph corrected water. let it expand. fill it with more water rinse to 60% runoff and repeat. give it two good rinses and test the runoff. should go down substantially on the e.c....i like the tote in the bathtub for all of you indoors with no yard!

 

[jdkronyk101]

also straight coco acts completely different than blended coco. up here in the triangle we have multiple bagged products with a coco base. all of which work fine straight out of the bag. ala royal gold, B.G. coco blend etc...

 

[thelaughingman]

Has anyone used Black Gold Just Coir coco?

 

[Jnugg]

Hijacking someones thread (my thread at that) is not cool.

 

[Green lung]

Rootbound is not really an issue in coco, 6, 7 foot bushes can grown in 2 gal no problem.

 

[Jnugg]

So long as you can water them a million times a day.

 

[Green lung]

So long as you can water them a million times a day.

Twice a day for me