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Luther Burbank
Not enough periods in those last few posts guy. Can we talk about the DE and not our past life issues that most likely no one cares about? Rotten, you're ranting on the Internet.
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GAVITA Pro 1000 DE
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sahdgrower
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Rotten, I appreciate people trying to help others on these forums make good informed decisions. What I don't appreciate is people with very little understanding of a subject acting as if they know.... your electrician friend... clearly needs to study up. Maybe he can run wiring but his advice to you is nothing short of idiotic. Plug the light in and see if it fires. Guarantee you it will work fine (if your electrician friend wired the 220 properly ) Also as far as heat goes have you actually touched one of the gavita ballasts while running? Lots cooler than I am us ed to. I am certainly no expert myself but I do believe in science. Measurements are hard to fake. So in the absence of ACTUAL FACTUAL data I believe you should temper your remarks and stress you are stating opinion and not info you can take to the bank.
villain420247
Member
Yes Rotten, while peppered with useful content - like don't blindly buy something you know nothing about - the rest of your ranting is kinda silly. Lots of us no longer live in a police state and worry about every bit of power being used, some of us have a lot more than 2 lights...some of us have a lot more than 10 years experience...
It's not like we are debating LED here (I have $10k worth of those I am messing with too), these are HPS lights, evolutionary technology that is effective for certain applications, and not like they are much more expensive than the traditional ones...honestly surprising to see someone with their britches in such a wad
It's not like we are debating LED here (I have $10k worth of those I am messing with too), these are HPS lights, evolutionary technology that is effective for certain applications, and not like they are much more expensive than the traditional ones...honestly surprising to see someone with their britches in such a wad
@LutherWasn't trying to put life issues, just stating why I won't post pics, not ranting.
Like I have said, these lights are for greenhouses, with many lights, not for a grow room,
No matter what kind of chip you add to the 400v bulb to make it fire at 240v, you are changing the bulb from where it was meant to optimally perform at, much like in the way you do when you dim down your bulbs on a ballast, you then change the spectrum of the bulbs lighting.
Like others have admitted, you can not use these lights for what they were designed for in a typical grow room, where growers must factor in total power consumption if they wanna run these lights, 2-3 of these lights will not give you better results by far and your room would certainly need multiple ton AC units to cool them down, which you don't want to do if you are illegal, there are many growers throughout the U.S. Who never post online, many who never even visit forums, online forums represent only a small fraction of actual growers,some may visit and never register but will read certain threads, people praising these lamps because it's The Latest Greatest thing are misinforming many growers who will never go legal, or ever run more than 4k in a room.
I'm out of here, most people here sound like Parrots, a bunch of "Sheeple" being led by company reps, of course people in med states can custom build a home for these and run multiple 20k rooms without the fear that many many growers have, it's because they are legal, I'm not going to move just so I can grow, that would be idiotic
Like I have said, these lights are for greenhouses, with many lights, not for a grow room,
No matter what kind of chip you add to the 400v bulb to make it fire at 240v, you are changing the bulb from where it was meant to optimally perform at, much like in the way you do when you dim down your bulbs on a ballast, you then change the spectrum of the bulbs lighting.
Like others have admitted, you can not use these lights for what they were designed for in a typical grow room, where growers must factor in total power consumption if they wanna run these lights, 2-3 of these lights will not give you better results by far and your room would certainly need multiple ton AC units to cool them down, which you don't want to do if you are illegal, there are many growers throughout the U.S. Who never post online, many who never even visit forums, online forums represent only a small fraction of actual growers,some may visit and never register but will read certain threads, people praising these lamps because it's The Latest Greatest thing are misinforming many growers who will never go legal, or ever run more than 4k in a room.
I'm out of here, most people here sound like Parrots, a bunch of "Sheeple" being led by company reps, of course people in med states can custom build a home for these and run multiple 20k rooms without the fear that many many growers have, it's because they are legal, I'm not going to move just so I can grow, that would be idiotic
villain420247
Member
pshhh...lack of commitment to your craft...
northerngrafta
Member
Surprised no one has started an e/d papillon thread yet it's a much better bit of kit all round I might get some pics together etc
villain420247
Member
They just did some price 'fixing' on those units...they are more expensive now :-(
villain420247
Member
lol - just giving you crap dude. (my plants are my family...and fook being paranoid as hell, I did that for long enough.)
+1 an electrician and an electrical engineer are two different things.
rotten
There are more growers in medical states vs non medical states. Both small and big. I know three grow store owners personally and gavitas hold their own in the ring. If you know what your doing its an easy KO. Gavitas light up more canopy than ballasts of the same wattage. If you can light more with less, its a win wether your a small or large grower.
1k SE HPS are used in greenhouses as well, and that is where most horticultural stuff originally came from, the greenhouse industry.
with out any pics to prove your case, your boderline trolling this thread. even with pics it doesnt sound like your doing anything that hasnt been done before.
Google gavita growroom or gavita cannabis and look at all the pretty pics, most of em lead you right back here.
the proof is in the pudding and Ive seen more than enough pudding to know gavitas work.
Just like any other product, you can use it incorrectly. To much light, to much heat, too much nutes to much air movement, all of those can burn your plants.
heres a great example of gavitas working as advertised.
@ highlife I never said I was doing anything different than anybody else, I guess I'm a troll because I have never posted pics for my own reasons.
If other forum users read other threads in this same section on this thread, users of these ballasts clearly say they are for greenhouses I've seen you in a few of them as well
I see threads that state this, in threads started by Doc420 and Bxgrower81 they are on pages 2 and 3 in this same section, I know an electrician is different from an electrical engineer, I also know that when you dim your lights you change the light spectrum out, I also know that I have read where these users of these ballasts are having trouble keeping from frying they're plants even at 30" above canopy, I know that the power of light is diminished by half for every foot away from the plants canopy.
I also see users who state that the wish they had there old ballasts back.
I also see where Purple Frostbyte who does use these ballasts says how they clearly run hotter. I research everything before I make a purchase wether it be a fan, light, filter, timer,seeds, nutrients, everything.
I also know that I take the word of a sales rep with a grain of salt, they will always point out the positives and ignore the negatives because it is they're job. I know that the sales rep for gavita has really been here for support, I know that these reflectors were designed for us in greenhouses.
I see the same issues with the E-Pap ballasts,all anybody has to do is read the entire thread, and not just one thread, but all of them through and through
I know that a chip placed into a 400v bulb to allow it to run at 230-240v changes the bulb because the bulb was meant to run at 400v powered by a 400v ballasts.
Problem is U.S. Homes don't use 400v. I know that you can easily be killed by a 400v shock
If other forum users read other threads in this same section on this thread, users of these ballasts clearly say they are for greenhouses I've seen you in a few of them as well
I see threads that state this, in threads started by Doc420 and Bxgrower81 they are on pages 2 and 3 in this same section, I know an electrician is different from an electrical engineer, I also know that when you dim your lights you change the light spectrum out, I also know that I have read where these users of these ballasts are having trouble keeping from frying they're plants even at 30" above canopy, I know that the power of light is diminished by half for every foot away from the plants canopy.
I also see users who state that the wish they had there old ballasts back.
I also see where Purple Frostbyte who does use these ballasts says how they clearly run hotter. I research everything before I make a purchase wether it be a fan, light, filter, timer,seeds, nutrients, everything.
I also know that I take the word of a sales rep with a grain of salt, they will always point out the positives and ignore the negatives because it is they're job. I know that the sales rep for gavita has really been here for support, I know that these reflectors were designed for us in greenhouses.
I see the same issues with the E-Pap ballasts,all anybody has to do is read the entire thread, and not just one thread, but all of them through and through
I know that a chip placed into a 400v bulb to allow it to run at 230-240v changes the bulb because the bulb was meant to run at 400v powered by a 400v ballasts.
Problem is U.S. Homes don't use 400v. I know that you can easily be killed by a 400v shock
bigboi78420
New member
someone here needs to smoke something. Too each their bro....too each their own.
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noyd666
I'm heading off to my room to give my old gavita a kicking.
sahdgrower
Member
I know that a chip placed into a 400v bulb to allow it to run at 230-240v changes the bulb because the bulb was meant to run at 400v powered by a 400v ballasts.
Problem is U.S. Homes don't use 400v. I know that you can easily be killed by a 400v shock[/quote]
Rotten, now you are really stepping out of your wheelhouse. Go read about electricity, current, etc. You will find out that your comment simply illustrates your ignorance on the subject and further disqualifies your opinion for consideration by logical minded folk interested in information and opinions of those more knowledgeable on a subject than themselves not some dude who knows some guy who said.....
Problem is U.S. Homes don't use 400v. I know that you can easily be killed by a 400v shock[/quote]
Rotten, now you are really stepping out of your wheelhouse. Go read about electricity, current, etc. You will find out that your comment simply illustrates your ignorance on the subject and further disqualifies your opinion for consideration by logical minded folk interested in information and opinions of those more knowledgeable on a subject than themselves not some dude who knows some guy who said.....
@sahdgrower so your saying when you dim your bulb it still operates at the same frequency and produces the same light spectrum with the same efficiency?
400volts are used in commercial buildings, you sound like you have something invested with these guys, my only investments are my plants, read all the threads on this because you are clearly biased, I'm not gaining anything either way, why is there no more company support on these threads with these lighting systems?
Sahdgrower you are basing your statements on what a salesman is stating, I'm going by what logic and a professional electrician has stated, who has nothing to gain either way, if these lights were what they claimed to be, I of course would use them, why wouldn't i?
I own no company, you sound like one of those growers who used to run and defend a breeder like Swerve whenever issues arose, I'm trying to discuss a real issue, grow shops are selling these systems and marketing them to home growers, which they were certainly not meant for
400volts are used in commercial buildings, you sound like you have something invested with these guys, my only investments are my plants, read all the threads on this because you are clearly biased, I'm not gaining anything either way, why is there no more company support on these threads with these lighting systems?
Sahdgrower you are basing your statements on what a salesman is stating, I'm going by what logic and a professional electrician has stated, who has nothing to gain either way, if these lights were what they claimed to be, I of course would use them, why wouldn't i?
I own no company, you sound like one of those growers who used to run and defend a breeder like Swerve whenever issues arose, I'm trying to discuss a real issue, grow shops are selling these systems and marketing them to home growers, which they were certainly not meant for
Why don't one of you guys get in touch with Wazzup, he's over @S*****ss**p.com, he hasn't been here lending support, he was only here when they were readying a large shipment to North America. Now he is gone, this sounds like advanced nutrients claiming the latest and greatest, magic sauce, your plants grow themselves for you.
I don't understand how you people don't realize that when you build something to a certain spec than then you put in a chip to step it down that you would somehow get the same thing.
Why don't you look at the micromoles produced by all the other ballasts and compare them, the ask yourself, how can an hps of the same power produce extraordinary results, when you have to place them 2 feet further away, did Gavita and Phillips rewrite the laws of physics as we know it?
I don't understand how you people don't realize that when you build something to a certain spec than then you put in a chip to step it down that you would somehow get the same thing.
Why don't you look at the micromoles produced by all the other ballasts and compare them, the ask yourself, how can an hps of the same power produce extraordinary results, when you have to place them 2 feet further away, did Gavita and Phillips rewrite the laws of physics as we know it?
Why don't one of you guys tell Purple Frostbyte to come in here and ask him if these lamps run cooler, this seems like a high School popularity contest, just like how everybody runs and praises the latest greatest new breeder who claims to have reinvented the wheel, like a bunch of fan boys,when more of the unbiased public speak on they're results,then the truth will come out
