GOTTA GET THIS SPOT "FINISHED" OUT

[FRIENDinDEED]

as the title says I have a spot and I need to finish it out/up.

its a garage that im only going to be using half of. I want to put up the framing, insulation and sheetrock. I have a friend who is already on deck to help/do the electrical NOW here is my biggest dilemma:

I need to get a price list together for the supplies that im going to need. I thought that I could use the HOMEDEPOT program but all it is, is you sending your measuerments in and someone getting back to you.

as I said, I did that BUT the guy that was incharge of my request got back to me and started asking for codes and all kinds of other shit that I don't need/wasn't ot be concerned about.

I just need a supply list generated so I would know how much of what I would need to complete or finish the spot so I can finally have a completed grow for once.

I was going at a good clip from the start of 9/13 and then everything froze solid with the weather (as my sig says)! moms, clones everything. talked to my partner and we both agreed that its time to just get the place together and finished out so that we can move forward.

anyone know of any programs that can generate a supply list once I plug in my measuerments? I mean even if all it does is tell me now many studs I would need, lengths of insulation and sheets of sheetrock I would be able to then put the prices to it and come up with an estimate on my own

or maybe something that can give me an estimate as to how much a project like that would cost to do?

I really don't want to do the "benny hill" supply runs to homedepot every half hour or when i run out of something AND I don't want to waste money with buying too much of one thing either. a trip or two I don't mind to either restock or take back but just don't wanna spend time going back and forth to the store, would rather focus that time on the build and getting the work done.

the seeds have been ordered, systems have been built and are functional, my ventilation is already decided (gets installed once the electrical is installed) so I just need the space itself brought up to speed

any ideas guys?

 

[silver hawaiian]

Not sure duderino. Seems to me (who's similarly mechanically declined) the best bet is to just put pencil to paper and get to work fantasizing/designing.

Once you figure out the dimensions of the room, that should give you a good idea where you want outlets & how many, and should also give you an idea of the length of romex you'll need, how many sticks'a lumber you'll need, sheetrock, etc..

I hope that's not unhelpful, but for 35 views and no response, you're probably going to make more progress sharpening the pencil yourself vs waiting for the peanut gallery to solve the puzzle..

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

Not sure duderino. Seems to me (who's similarly mechanically declined) the best bet is to just put pencil to paper and get to work fantasizing/designing.

Once you figure out the dimensions of the room, that should give you a good idea where you want outlets & how many, and should also give you an idea of the length of romex you'll need, how many sticks'a lumber you'll need, sheetrock, etc..

I hope that's not unhelpful, but for 35 views and no response, you're probably going to make more progress sharpening the pencil yourself vs waiting for the peanut gallery to solve the puzzle..

yeah the whole 35 views no responses is kinda fucktardish to me of the community but oh well, it is what it is.

and its not like I was asking ppl to do the math for me, I figured if HD had a program to do it then that cant be the only program on the planet that can do it. just tryin to work smarter not harder.

your right silver hawaiian i'll just get it done myself, just seems like when it comes to bullshit this place is cool but when help is truly needed cats around here don't pop up like they say they would, lol, defines the term "peanut gallery".

ive got one more avenue to try actually two so we'll see what they say, is there some sort of "code" that I don't know about amongst construction ppl?

 

[noobs1988]

Dude, your asking us to price out your framing cost? sorry for sounding blunt but...Stop being lazy and get to work. Your going to have to be willing to do stuff on your own and if you need help making a material list for studs and sheet rock, then I think your best bet would be buy a tent. And yes ICMAG is very helpful when needing advice that's a little bit more difficult to do on your own.

 

[messn'n'gommin']

The building codes for any one area is dictated by the state and even most city regs. It involves a building inspector, paper work, and time! Best to avoid it, if at all possible, especially for a grow room!

As for a program to get a rough estimate of a materials list, I'm sure there are many online somewhere, but you never said what the room's dimensions are, so any kind of estimate for the materials is going to be hard to come up with. For the most critical part, as long as your buddy knows electrical work well, he should have an idea of how much and what kind of wire you'll need, as well as outlets. If he doesn't, find somebody else ASAP or bone up on it yourself! He may be a great guy, but if he unintentionally screws up, it won't be him with a burned down house! So, in that case do not be afraid to hurt anyone's feelings! Still, whatever number you come up with, I suggest you add 10% of it to your materials list. The exclamation, "Shit!" is often heard on a construction project.

hth!

 

[hotboxes]

I just put a room in a Ladies garage back in October no codes permits needed. I believe you only need permits it'd you are adding onto existing foundation or excavation.

Really depends on your situation bro. Is this going to be permanent, or just a temporary fix? You plan on flipping, vegging, flowering only? Wattage you want to work with. Personally the least amount of ppl the better. 2x3 or 2x4's will work just fine figure out your dimensions. Get your square footing and that will tell you how much drywall you still need. Personally I should go with green board it won't mold or break down from the moisture. I'm no electrician, but you said you already have one. I'm sure he can tie into your existing service and add a cpl 30-50 amp breakers, or even split the service to dedicate a panel to just the grow. Then comes your lighting and exhaust. Exhaust 2x/minute and a minimum of 50 watts/sqft or better.

 

[Phatlewtz]

what you are looking for is a program to generate a "bill of materials" specifically one attached to a drafting program...solidworks and AutoCAD are 2 possibilities but both are rather expensive and unwieldy to anyone untrained...search Google for engineering and free drafting programs...who knows you may run across one specific to greenhouse or grow rooms... Pencil to paper is your jumping off point..visualize... Visualize... And visualize some more. Once out in your idea paper then you'll have the generalities needed to begin generating your BOM.. Then just goto Lowes or home depot.com and price your list...as far as the electrical goes if this is going to be a semi permanent room it needs its own sub panel.. Being able to isolate circuits is Paramount for safety. Also no Sheetrock it holds moisture..Always use green board. If you are still stuck I will help as best I can......oh yeah as far as the "codes" they were talking about it relates to building safety and laws.

 

[Medium Pimpin']

Studs on 16" centers and double up around corners and doorways for added support.
As far as electric , take your total wattage/volts to get amperage. I give a 10% tolerance for ballast draw on top of lighting wattage.
Once u frame, the insulation and rock will be easier for you to judge.
I always go with moisture resistant (green board) rock in a grow for obv reasons.
Since you have zero build experience ( my assumption being you're asking us) I would take 2 trips to the depot for parts.
Nothing worse than over buying and having to return that shit.

And there is no cheap, non commercial program that u can get cheap to calculate construction materials.
You want to spend a few thousand on said software, feel free.
But the good lord blessed you with your own supercomputer, your brain.
Use it

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

now here is a prime reason why shit always breaks down around here, so here is my original post:

as the title says I have a spot and I need to finish it out/up.

its a garage that im only going to be using half of. I want to put up the framing, insulation and sheetrock. I have a friend who is already on deck to help/do the electrical NOW here is my biggest dilemma:

I need to get a price list together for the supplies that im going to need. I thought that I could use the HOMEDEPOT program but all it is, is you sending your measuerments in and someone getting back to you.

as I said, I did that BUT the guy that was incharge of my request got back to me and started asking for codes and all kinds of other shit that I don't need/wasn't ot be concerned about.

I just need a supply list generated so I would know how much of what I would need to complete or finish the spot so I can finally have a completed grow for once.

I was going at a good clip from the start of 9/13 and then everything froze solid with the weather (as my sig says)! moms, clones everything. talked to my partner and we both agreed that its time to just get the place together and finished out so that we can move forward.

anyone know of any programs that can generate a supply list once I plug in my measuerments? I mean even if all it does is tell me now many studs I would need, lengths of insulation and sheets of sheetrock I would be able to then put the prices to it and come up with an estimate on my own
or maybe something that can give me an estimate as to how much a project like that would cost to do?

I really don't want to do the "benny hill" supply runs to homedepot every half hour or when i run out of something AND I don't want to waste money with buying too much of one thing either. a trip or two I don't mind to either restock or take back but just don't wanna spend time going back and forth to the store, would rather focus that time on the build and getting the work done.

the seeds have been ordered, systems have been built and are functional, my ventilation is already decided (gets installed once the electrical is installed) so I just need the space itself brought up to speed

any ideas guys?

now here is your response:

Dude, your asking us to price out your framing cost? sorry for sounding blunt but...Stop being lazy and get to work. Your going to have to be willing to do stuff on your own and if you need help making a material list for studs and sheet rock, then I think your best bet would be buy a tent. And yes ICMAG is very helpful when needing advice that's a little bit more difficult to do on your own.

before I start a thread I already know what I want to ask and how I want to ask it, I already factor what the average posters concerns and responses are going to be so I give as much information as possible ok? so let me as you noobs1988 how in the holly hell out of everyone that responded so far did YOU figure that im asking someone to "do my work for me"

I specifically asked if anyone knew of a program LIKE the one that homedepot uses, so pleeease do me a solid and explain to me how im asking anyone to "do" anything for me other than point me in a specific direction? smh

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

The building codes for any one area is dictated by the state and even most city regs. It involves a building inspector, paper work, and time! Best to avoid it, if at all possible, especially for a grow room!

As for a program to get a rough estimate of a materials list, I'm sure there are many online somewhere, but you never said what the room's dimensions are, so any kind of estimate for the materials is going to be hard to come up with. For the most critical part, as long as your buddy knows electrical work well, he should have an idea of how much and what kind of wire you'll need, as well as outlets. If he doesn't, find somebody else ASAP or bone up on it yourself! He may be a great guy, but if he unintentionally screws up, it won't be him with a burned down house! So, in that case do not be afraid to hurt anyone's feelings! Still, whatever number you come up with, I suggest you add 10% of it to your materials list. The exclamation, "Shit!" is often heard on a construction project.

hth!

nah brother, its a grow room, so who gives a shit about codes? that's a given

the guy for the electrical is a journeyman and has done work on the house before and has to come back anyway to finish a job already started so once he comes back we'll talk about where things will be, its not something I need to rush. I have an idea BUT im gonna wait to hear what HE has to say and advises, what my limitations are or could be.

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

I just put a room in a Ladies garage back in October no codes permits needed. I believe you only need permits it'd you are adding onto existing foundation or excavation.

Really depends on your situation bro. Is this going to be permanent, or just a temporary fix? You plan on flipping, vegging, flowering only? Wattage you want to work with. Personally the least amount of ppl the better. 2x3 or 2x4's will work just fine figure out your dimensions. Get your square footing and that will tell you how much drywall you still need. Personally I should go with green board it won't mold or break down from the moisture. I'm no electrician, but you said you already have one. I'm sure he can tie into your existing service and add a cpl 30-50 amp breakers, or even split the service to dedicate a panel to just the grow. Then comes your lighting and exhaust. Exhaust 2x/minute and a minimum of 50 watts/sqft or better.

we already talked about running the lines from the main breaker, last time he was here, he swapped out my main for a bigger one and told me not to get rid of the old one so that I could use it as a subpanel for the grow room.

veg/flower/clones/moms/smoking/chillin/trimming/drying/curing are all gonna be done there

my original plan was to use regular sheetrock but now that you mention the greenboard i think you just may be right; the cfm for the room ive already decided to go with the 1000cfm roof/attic exhaust thing (bruh, I had ALLL of this info down a couple years ago and where those notes are now I couldn't even begin to tell you) using 2x4's for sure and THAT is my main reason for wanting to use a program, you know something to give me a rough estimate of how much of that shit I may need

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN THANK YOU!!!

Studs on 16" centers and double up around corners and doorways for added support.
As far as electric , take your total wattage/volts to get amperage. I give a 10% tolerance for ballast draw on top of lighting wattage.
Once u frame, the insulation and rock will be easier for you to judge.
I always go with moisture resistant (green board) rock in a grow for obv reasons.
Since you have zero build experience ( my assumption being you're asking us) I would take 2 trips to the depot for parts.
Nothing worse than over buying and having to return that shit.

And there is no cheap, non commercial program that u can get cheap to calculate construction materials.
You want to spend a few thousand on said software, feel free.
But the good lord blessed you with your own supercomputer, your brain.
Use it

ive got the build experience of a novice, ive done some work around my own house besides jobs that ive helped out friends/family with some big some small

I know what you mean and your right, the brain is the best thing ive got going for me, but this nursing curriculum has me somewhat mind fucked right now, I thought that being in a hospital for 10yrs would be of some benefit . . . . naaaaah man, its not working out that way.

'tis the very reason I am on here seemingly begging fro help

what you are looking for is a program to generate a "bill of materials" specifically one attached to a drafting program...solidworks and AutoCAD are 2 possibilities but both are rather expensive and unwieldy to anyone untrained...search Google for engineering and free drafting programs...who knows you may run across one specific to greenhouse or grow rooms... Pencil to paper is your jumping off point..visualize... Visualize... And visualize some more. Once out in your idea paper then you'll have the generalities needed to begin generating your BOM.. Then just goto Lowes or home depot.com and price your list...as far as the electrical goes if this is going to be a semi permanent room it needs its own sub panel.. Being able to isolate circuits is Paramount for safety. Also no Sheetrock it holds moisture..Always use green board. If you are still stuck I will help as best I can......oh yeah as far as the "codes" they were talking about it relates to building safety and laws.

trust me I remember about the codes thing from when we first started looking to buy a home, so I know what theyre for, but I just wish he would have given me the goddamend numbers and not have it all rely on codes. the first email I sent was with the numbers then he asked about whether or not I wanted to use wood or metal studs; told him I would take his advice on the insulation and pretty much had the sheetrock thing figured on my own and THATS when he came back to me asking about codes and wouldn't help me any further until I gave him the codes for my area . . . fuck if ive got time for that shit

I told him EXACTLY what I needed and he's giving me extra shit to do? and if I had the time to do it I would but nah bruh, not right now, im dancing through 3 nursing books simultaneously mentally and time wise so that's my primary reason for asking for a program that someone on here may have known or used.

if I knew the programs were so exclusive besides pricey I wouldn't have even started the damned thread, I would have just kept it movin' with the old pencil and paper stand by, never did me wrong in the past.

 

[hup234]

I'd go w/ metal studs,just screw together..give me the length of all walls and hight plus any doors and drywall on one side or two for material list

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

awright guys, I know what I need to know now.

i'll get it done with someones program, im at that point where I know a guy that knows a guy and besides torrents are alive and well.

thank you guys for your help, you really did and I really appreciate it

like I said, I was simply looking for the possible existence of a program, now that I know what I need to look for im good, I've got it from here.

 

[hup234]

I'd go w/ metal studs,just screw together..give me the length of all walls and hight plus any doors and drywall on one side or two for material list

...

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

I'd go w/ metal studs,just screw together..give me the length of all walls and hight plus any doors and drywall on one side or two for material list

ive heard about those but keep forgetting to look for them at home depot or on line. honestly im just so used to thinking about timber studs when I do projects its just where my mind goes automatically.

 

[dansbuds]

i'd love to see a build thread of this when your ready to move forward . for a couple reasons .

 

[STUNKY]

Tell me the dimensions and height .. I can tell u every single board in it.insulation drywal.

 

[hup234]

Tell me the dimensions and height .. I can tell u every single board in it.insulation drywal.

tried that one already...

 

[noobs1988]

not trying to knock you but all im saying is itll take like 1 hour of planning to figure that out with pencil paper and the internet to price materials. just saying... smh