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[pappy masonjar]

Oh and I was watering my plants last night and I noticed one of them has fat leaves at the bottom and skinny leaves on the top.
Bioguy, is this kinda what your plant looks like, in regards to the differing leaves? or was it skinny leaves on the bottom and fat on top?

I can get a close up of the lower Fans if ya want. They are pretty fat fingered, overlapping types. In veg the leaves were all fat. Now, the leaves towards the top are coming out pretty thin.
Its Hazeman's Elephant Stomper.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Hey TB,

5HzA was very Thai leaning according to Nev so some old Thai lines prob gave similar effects. The Mexican and Columbian in the line prob boosted the high even more.
The original A5 Haze was a certain pheno of the 5HzA line, the best one selected out of many, its the mom used for the original Nevilles Haze (NL#5/HzAxHzC)
Produced a very trippy high, many believed it being saturated in LSD, lol. It also produced a devastating couch lock effect. One hit of a spliff and yr day was done.
Defo not a daytime smoke.
Cheers

Yo Sammy,

The Thai and Mexican leaning Haze I just wrote about was a Neville's Haze individual. Luckily for me, it was not in the slightest couch-lock. Although, a couple hours after toking, I tried driving. I got a mile down the road, stopped, and let my wife drive. I couldn't tell if I was going 15 miles per hour, or 80 miles per hour without staring at the speedometer. Yee Haw!


ThaiBliss

 

[bioguy]

Oh and I was watering my plants last night and I noticed one of them has fat leaves at the bottom and skinny leaves on the top.
Bioguy, is this kinda what your plant looks like, in regards to the differing leaves? or was it skinny leaves on the bottom and fat on top?

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I can get a close up of the lower Fans if ya want. They are pretty fat fingered, overlapping types. In veg the leaves were all fat. Now, the leaves towards the top are coming out pretty thin.
Its Hazeman's Elephant Stomper.

Yes very similar. Look at the leaf in the lower left corner of photo 2. Notice how the center three leaves are wide but are not spread out (all point forward). That is also common.

I noticed another weird thing on this plant last night. In veg, its opposite. The bottom of the plant has silver dollar sized narrow leaf and the top has dinner plate size wide leaves.

1) Bud Top

2) Bud Bottom

3) Veg top

4) Veg Bottom

 

[bioguy]

Karma genetics just released a cross of Ag13 x biker kush. I think the AG13 is a cross between that haze A you guys mentioned and g13. Im not exactly sure, but thats what the description sounded like to me at least.

There you go Bioguy. Old school haze x g13 x a modern kush/chem.
Sounds good huh.

Will this be available on the bay or boutique soon? I see it on attitude but I'd rather get it somewhere else.

Was this comment already deleted?

 

[Yo Sammy]

I found this in one of Ed R.'s big books of buds.
Soma's words:

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G13/haze Male (Somas pics from Big book of buds)
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Good info.
It once more shows the power of nevs haze hybrids.
Soma got 10 seeds, only 1 sprouted which turned out to be a male.
Then he said he made his finest lines using this male....
Talk about fire right....?
Cheers

 

[bioguy]

How do the newer generation of Nevil and SSH from Mr Nice compare to the old. I have read that they are more variable but equally good pheno's are in their. Just the other day I read a guy in one of the Sativa threads said he had a SSH that stomped his Nevil's.

Did he have a crappy Nevil's...an out of this world SSH...both?

Haze appears in many of the crosses on the original list as both Nevil's, SSH decedents

Side thought: It has always surprised me a guy like Shanti Baba has an entire line all based on 20 years old plants. In reality 75% of the line is Skunk Afghan Haze. A touch of g-13, and the Widow covers another 20%. Hawaiian, Early Pearl and Master Kush finish it out. Has he shunned the entire Chem/OG/Diesel Cali Clone scene. If so, why? Is he a preservationist, a purist, smarter than the rest of us???

 

[bigherb]

Yes i know Karma claims to have obtained the AG13 or G13HzA fem clone.
I granted a clone of mine to a dude in the Dam, an acquaintance of Nevil.
This guy was supposed to keep it for Nevil until he made it to Holland. Nevil didnt make it to Holland till present day so its possible this guy passing it to others.

About Soma's G13Hz.
Nev says he gave him a G13HzC Male clone back in the day..
Its Soma's base for all his G13Haze Hybrid lines.

Cheers,
Sam

Unc YS

Nice too see ya posting ,hope all is well .It looks like it from pics ive seen at another site, im glad too see new hybrids being spread

Ive seen ya try contacting Karma an ive read your post on the possibility (soo i assume its not yet varified) .But Curious if Karmas Clone can be varified ?

Here's the official tissue below Courtesy YS

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/152240-post64.html

Btw there are other OSH varietes in the thread an some amazing pics aswell as info.


Much Respect

1luvbigherb

 

[Yo Sammy]

Heya BH,
Yes ive seen you tried to contact me but i do not have enough posts made to be able to answer you bro.
All is well, thank you.
I did tried to contact Karma but havnt got in touch with the man so far.
It could be that he has obtained the cut, time will tell....
However all cuttings are still here bro, healthy and still ass kicking.
Best vibez to you ans yours BH, happy to hear from you bro.
Sam

 

[bioguy]

Bubba= AfPak

BKS1, #7
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Is that to say the story posted at "that site I'm not allowed to say" is incorrect?

 

[bioguy]

I sure hope legalization helps these strains spread and survive.

When the lid blew off I ran like 50 strains from stores that sucked. If some day I can get legit copies of any of these I will be so excited.

 

[bioguy]

Yo Sammy,

The Thai and Mexican leaning Haze I just wrote about was a Neville's Haze individual. Luckily for me, it was not in the slightest couch-lock. Although, a couple hours after toking, I tried driving. I got a mile down the road, stopped, and let my wife drive. I couldn't tell if I was going 15 miles per hour, or 80 miles per hour without staring at the speedometer. Yee Haw!


ThaiBliss

I tried an experimental tincture made by Han's and had this happen. I could not feel the steering wheel and thought I was floating above the passengers seat.

No idea the strain but he said, "the hash is still in it, I don't know what that will do".

 

[ThaiBliss]

I tried an experimental tincture made by Han's and had this happen. I could not feel the steering wheel and thought I was floating above the passengers seat.

No idea the strain but he said, "the hash is still in it, I don't know what that will do".

Hey Bioguy. You have been busy. Man, it seems you are suddenly everywhere!

Gotta love that out of body feeling.


I could not rep you anymore, but I wanted to say what a beautiful plant you have in that Hazeman's Elephant Stomper. I Love those red leaves.

All the Best,

ThaiBliss

 

[Hammerhead]

Don't depend on getting the best bud from the dispensary's. You will find better amongst your friends. Sometimes they get the good shit but not every time. I have seen them buy brick weed and not get some really killer OG. They make a higher profit from the lower grade cannabis. Keeo the good shit for yourself then offload your low grade to the dispo's. That seems to be what they want.

 

[Elmer Bud]

How do Elmer,

There were 2 Haze male A and C if my memory is right only the cross of G13xHzC was released for a year. Also to my knowledge the G13xHzA that was kept alive was female it was not male.

G13xHzC (clone)was about after 88/89 as a clone so it can't be Somas, as Soma states his male came from seeds not clone in 2001, so unless Shanti gave him that cut and Soma just lied? (Shanti is known to have given cuts to growers in spain in the late 90's)Nev only offered the G13xHzC line for a year didn't he? I'd say they are all G13 x HzC that are male.

@ Yo Sammy Nev claimed Soma got his thru seeds not a clone meant to be via Ed rosenthal. If it was a clone it would be the same as Shantis one, also if the G13 x Haze A was the better one etc why did Shanti use the C when Nev was still about at MNS etc...

The Haze C dominated the G13 anyway in that cross,

taken from;

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/68619-post186.html

So where does this G13xHzA male come from? (edit: don't know why I assumed it was male) obviously those he listed give you the cuts A1,A2etc and the HzC crosses gave C1 to 5 (I think)

Edit: apologies Elmer & Yo Sam, I thought it was a male used! I now realise it's the fem.... helps if I read correctly!!

G`day Stick

Shanti got G13 Hz C seeds in his buy up of NVL`s stock .
He IBL`d them . Our old buddy Chana spread them far and wide amongst Haze lovers .

Gotta remember NVL got busted in Holland not long before Mr Nice was created . So only NVL and Jah know what cuts were still in his stable and what seeds were not tipped on the floor by the police , when he was bought out by Shanti .



Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[rhinoman 1]

G`day Stick

Shanti got G13 Hz C seeds in his buy up of NVL`s stock .
He IBL`d them . Our old buddy Chana spread them far and wide amongst Haze lovers .

Gotta remember NVL got busted in Holland not long before Mr Nice was created . So only NVL and Jah know what cuts were still in his stable and what seeds were not tipped on the floor by the police , when he was bought out by Shanti .



Thanks for sharin

EB .

. Hey Elmer, i though nev sold his stock to sensi seeds. Is this befor green house?

 

[stickshift]

G`day Stick

Shanti got G13 Hz C seeds in his buy up of NVL`s stock .
He IBL`d them . Our old buddy Chana spread them far and wide amongst Haze lovers .

Gotta remember NVL got busted in Holland not long before Mr Nice was created . So only NVL and Jah know what cuts were still in his stable and what seeds were not tipped on the floor by the police , when he was bought out by Shanti .



Thanks for sharin

EB .

Hi mate,

see the thing I don't really get is, Chana had them in 2010/2011 and it's stated shanti ibl'd them! well when? as he posted in 2010 he hadn't germed the seeds....

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08-17-2010, 02:56 PM
shantibaba

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Hi All

well glad to see the light shining for some of you in that proverbial tunnel of mystical marijuana history.Actually the story of the truth is usually less colorful than all the words it takes to project a hypothesis...so glad it is clear for the most of you. I did my work and Nevil did his work so it was always difficult for me to say what Nevil did and vice versa. I always gave the general picture of Nevil and how he acquired things from what he told me but it is great to see him finally put pen to paper and share it all. Would be interesting to see how those other forums are coping with the truth now?

To answer HHHG the G13 was combined to the G13skunk when Nevil gave it to me in seed form . I only selected and inbreed to stabilize it so yes the G13skunk is the correct term. I do however have a lot of old stock to try to germinate from Nev in the original version of G13 Haze, G13 NL5, and several others. May try a few of these L33t suggestions of sulphuric acid...see how it goes.

All the best Sb
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So I presume someone did do something like a G13/HzAxG13/HzC... but I don't think it was Shanti....

 

[bioguy]

Hey Bioguy. You have been busy. Man, it seems you are suddenly everywhere!

LOL. Yeah, I was pretty bored before I found this forum. I have an internet biz. Between that and my grow I don't leave the house much. Thanks for giving me something interesting to discuss. I had no idea so many really experience growers were here. I am also really excited to see all the traffic in this thread.

I started this so their would be an updated list of great strains for beginners to chose from (just narrow it down to 100 from 100,000). Next thing I know, legendary growers are tossing out the real deal history. I've learned so much.

Gotta love that out of body feeling.

Yeah, no kidding. I wish I could reliably duplicate the effect. I've had it twice in a like 5 years. The second time I packed my chilum with Urkle hash on my way into a Further show. Accidentally smoked it all (a gram or 2) in 5 minutes and thought I got dosed for an hour till I came down.

I could not rep you anymore, but I wanted to say what a beautiful plant you have in that Hazeman's Elephant Stomper. I Love those red leaves.

Thanks for any rep you can give!

Mine is not Hazeman's Elephant Stomper. Someone else has that and it looks the same. I have no idea what she is. I bought Grape Kush/Krush (don't remember) and Razzelberry on the same day. They were all the same. I figure its pretty likely that "both were neither". The more I study it, it seems very likely she came from DJ Shorts Blue line...lots of Thai and Blue Characteristics. I got it from the Clone Store before the got their reputation for mites and not authentic strains. I actually gave it away. My buddy moved to Costa Rica to take a year of and told me I had to hold it for him. It took me a year to figure her out (scrog and nutrients).

Now I am in love with her. The color on the leaves is unpredictable (this plant is unpredictable in general). Currently I have about 15 of these, from the same mom, that have all gotten the same treatment. Some are ghostly yellow, some dark green (like too much N) and others are developing the red/purple/yellow leaves like the photo. I call that alien skin. Even when I think she is giving up at week 6 the buds keep getting fat regardless of what the leaves look like.

 

[bioguy]

Don't depend on getting the best bud from the dispensary's. You will find better amongst your friends. Sometimes they get the good shit but not every time. I have seen them buy brick weed and not get some really killer OG. They make a higher profit from the lower grade cannabis. Keeo the good shit for yourself then offload your low grade to the dispo's. That seems to be what they want.

Agreed.

But from your post I am guessing you are in Cali/MI. In CO the dispensary scene is f'd. We are not allowed to offload our product on them (they have to grow it or buy it from their competitors). So the competition is doing what you said...dumping crap.

It has created a bipolar situation. The big dogs (mostly from Cali) have done very well since they came here with big money and excellent grow skills. Many of the others are owned by biz men that could not produce a trich if their life depended on it even if they had all the seeds in Holland.

Now toss in recreational legalization. What a joke. Now we have dispensaries selling $35 grams and $100 eighths (with lines around the block!), while next door they sell $100 ounces (no customers). Price does not dictate quality at all any more.

All of my customers agree I have better product than even the best dispensaries (i.e. The Clinic with multiple CC awards and a seed bank) but the dispensaries did $5 million in a week, most sold out...I sold an ounce for about $200, have 2 more lbs I can't move...its harvest week

 

[bioguy]

I just reread that post and it seems kinda angry. I was not trying to go off on anyone. Sorry Purple Frostbite if the tone seemed like I was attacking you.

It was just a rant. I'm a little on edge since I heard about $100 eights.

 

[bioguy]

So I presume someone did do something like a G13/HzAxG13/HzC... but I don't think it was Shanti....

Anyone know more?