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The Road to Guerilla Success and High yields

moondawg

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Ive been growing guerilla for a long time now and i guess ive tried every approach known to man kind over those many years. Ive had 200 plants in a cornfield and 4 in the back yard and everything in between.

I want to share with you a method of growing that will provide the grower with big yields and highly successful grows be they beginners or long time growers. This approach works and as long as you follow 3 basic rules that are imperative.

1. The plants cant be found and a 12' cannabis plant is big. I recomment 1 plant per site. I have a couple of spots where i plant 2 plants but normally i only plant 1 whopper per site. First, i plant a small number of plants and i cant affort to loose any of them, but further and rule number 2 concerns water.

2.A big cannabis plant requires a lot of water. 1" of raing per week or 3 gallons every 5 days. You must be able to water the plants if it gets dry. you cant carry more than 6 galloons of water which limits the number of plants to 2.

3.You have to choos a strain that is (potent), proven, tough, big and vigorous enough for the great outdoors. You may as well sit at home and find someone to buy your weed from if you choose a finicky indoor strain. Good vigourous outdoor strains wont need bug spray nor disease prevention.

To get big yields in guerilla where the soil is poor and conditions far from perfect, you have to think small.

A guerilla grower can generally harvest much more smok with 5 plants than they cant with 25 plants. Unless your groiwing in an area that has good native soil, your going to have to deal with soil defiiciencies and doing that with 25 or more plants can be a huge and expensive undertaking. I worked my ass off for years trying to grow 40-50 plants and ending the season with 4-5 lbs of smoke on a good year in which i litterally worked my ass off.

One day a while back, i decided to go small and my yekis are massive. This year i helped 2 guys with their grows: 1 had been growing for 10 years and the other had made a couple of tryies but had harvested very little. This year was different.

I had each grower buy 5 femmed seeds. I gave them a list of seeds. 1 bought 5 spontanca seeds from KC brains and the other bought 5 Pinapple chunks from Barneys. Both strains get big enogh to yield 2 lbs, are potent and finish late sept. Neither is succeptable to bugs or diesease.

Then i helped each one find their grow sites with a single plant at each site. At each of the planting sites, we dug a hole 30"X14" deep(double dig). We filled each hole with 3 bags of Fox farms Ocean forest soil at a cost of 60 bucks. The 5 holes cost both guys 300$ and both were crying over the expense. They both had a total cost of less than 400$

On may 1, they both planted their seedlings that they had starte on April 1 and where about 10-12" tall. All that was left once the planting took place was to water.

We had decent rainfall this year so watering was limited to 2 times, once in mid august and the other cam mid sept.

3 bags of ocean forest soil in a hole that is 30X14" and a vigourous big yielding strain like spontanica will yeild 2lbs of smoke.

The spontanica grower finished the season with his 5 plants yeilding a total of 7lbs 2 oz's and the pinapple chunk grower finished his season with 6 lbs even.

The retail value of their grows were $21,000 and $18,000 respectivly for rtheir investment of $400 bucks and not really all that much work.

A young strong grower might be able to hadle 10 - 15 plants but the watering requirement is limiiting. Big plants require water.


Good luck.
 
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buddymate

The 5 holes cost both guys 300$ and both were crying over the expense. They both had a total cost of less than 400$
Speculate to accumulate,short term losses for long term gains,most newbies cant get their heads around this,good post.
 

W89

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Cool info, But for 300 dollars you could make a much better soil than what you can get out of a bag!
 

relic1981

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are you in the PNW? id like to see your list too. good info there as well. cant stress enough less is more when you are going gorilla.
 

Smoke_A_Lot

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Some very good info moondawg, this will definitely come in handy this season. I also researched a lot about KC Brains Spotanica, it seems like a solid guerilla strain with MASSIVE yeilds.
 
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vince514

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good tips MD i plan on doing some gorilla style chronic clones outdoors this year...hopefully
 

frankenstein2

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I can attest to the big plants needing water. I had a hell of an outdoor season this year. I pulled in about 25 lb's from about 60 plants. My biggest was a 2 lb exodus kush plant, and it was in an 18 gal tote. I had three Dinachems that gave me just over 4 pounds from just the three. The smaller plants in 5 gallon pails are what limited my yield. If all the plants that were in 5 gal pails and 7 gal grow bags were in at at least 20 gals I would have been getting 2 lb's a piece no prob. I'm making homemade smart pots for '14's outdoor season, none smaller than 30 gallons. Bigger plants+lower numbers= bigger yield, less tedious work. I have a thread from last years outdoor. It's called guerilla in the swamp '13.
 

idiit

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i pretty much made the same decision as moondawg. a few big plants way outyielded "many mouse". :)

a few plants is much less of a charge (legal risk) than a butt load of bs.

don't let others see or know of your "patch". don't go in/out of your area any more than necessary. ppl pick up on the pattern. once the pattern is realized by others the easter egg hunt is on.

have a good excuse clearly visible as to why you are in the outdoor area; metal detector, geology bumper stickers, gold/silver prospecting equiptment, fishing poles, dog ( walking the dog), hiking gear instead of looking like a pot growing hippy :), etc...

if you can find good river/stream/creek bottom dirt that doesn't flood out too easily you need no ground preperation for most landraces per my experiences. you can build mounds to keep the plants up off the "sea level" in your garden area.

look for lush vegetation with lots of big, tall woody stem weeds. this is where canna loves to grow the most and no work involved; just excellent stealth techniques.
 

Tiami

Member
less is more in guerilla in most cases. period. don't want to be a smert ass but for the sake of good discussion I'll quote some stuff you guys said which I find interesting.

1. The plants cant be found and a 12' cannabis plant is big. I recomment 1 plant per site. I have a couple of spots where i plant 2 plants but normally i only plant 1 whopper per site. First, i plant a small number of plants and i cant affort to loose any of them, but further and rule number 2 concerns water.

this is really important. I use a couple of spots with two or three plants at each but I'm confindent in those. I try to make secret paths to the spots. the key element here is when you turn from main road or path to your site, track you made by walking shouldn't be visible. use stones, rock, bush or tree to 'jump' in into that path. hope it makes sense.

2.A big cannabis plant requires a lot of water. 1" of raing per week or 3 gallons every 5 days. You must be able to water the plants if it gets dry. you cant carry more than 6 galloons of water which limits the number of plants to 2.

from my experience in dry and hot areas (whole summer without rain, totally fcuked up) a 2+ meter plant in august can easily use more then 10-15 gallons per week and still loosing leaves. I watered every five days with 30 liters of waterper plant and it wasn't enough.
my holes were too big - wide for the amount of water I could carry and god knows how much of this water penetrated deep enough.

having a quality way to water directly into root zone is something I'm thinking about lately. and improving water holding ability of native sand soil where I grow.
without nearby water suply and some kind of irrigation system guerrila grower's life here would turn into nightmare or better say dreams of rain, if he'd had more than a cuple of plants. at least if we're talking about some half serious yield. if drought doesn't kill the plants, rat or rabbit will. they're also looking for some water. you can guess there's not much weed here around.

I pulled in about 25 lb's from about 60 plants.

I'm making homemade smart pots for '14's outdoor season, none smaller than 30 gallons. Bigger plants+lower numbers= bigger yield

not much summer vacation for you ha? there's probably lot of rain during summer if you ran 60 plants. me had 7 plants and worked myself off.
your goal is now 60lbs from 25 plants I guess with those 30 gallon smarts if rain serves you well. what you're filling them with?
I plan to make one or two too.
 

frankenstein2

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@Tiami- I work all year round, winter is the slow season for me, lol. A couple of months to re-coup before I start hitting it hard again. Usually in December I start planting seeds to get ready for next years outdoor. The rain did help me a lot this year. What helps the most is the "spot" has an unlimited amount of fresh water-it never dries up, ever. We actually had to much in early fall. I had a rescue mission during a rain storm and I had to move about 20 plants thru waist deep water to safety. I visited my plants every other day from the day they went in the ground. I saved all my dirt from last year, and I'm gonna reuse most of it for auto's at that spot. For the rest of my dirt, I'm gonna buy a whole pallet of happy frog(60 bags), and I'm gonna get prolly 4 cu. yards of dirt from my local farm supply store. My friend has a farm with cows, horses, pigs and chickens, the farm has been there for over 30 yrs. and the shit there is just as old. So I'm gonna grab some dirt from there as well. I prolly have a solid two weeks of carrying dirt into the swamp. It's soooooo worth it!!!
 

Tiami

Member
looks like your swamp climate is opposite to my desert like. what`s the soil like, bringing a pallet of soil is serious job and it costs. I doubt it`s shitty, shallow with plenty of stones. whats the reason you don`t grow in the ground..
 

Koondense

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For me the issue right now is strain selection.

Does anyone know if the strains used by the NorCal(emerald triangle) legal "big-plant-guys" are suitable for less or no care guerrilla growstyle?
 

Koondense

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Sadly it takes to long to finish, I'm at around 45N EU.

But I heard something new is coming out, related to Malawi:)
I'm probably gonna try Congo.
 

bosshogg

Member
W89 had great point subcool n the rev havr great soil at same price all orgsnic just water n a few teas n soil microlife r microbeasties w il l do the rest just my two cents.......beans n cornbread
 

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