Minions of the Dark

[X_man]

Wassup fellow Minions....Bitch Minion repoting for duty. Single Nocturnal flipped 01/14/14

This is Noc history picturea are in thus order.
12/16/13 vegged in a 3g

01/05/14 x2 I topped her at 28" the same day I xplanted her into her final 7g pot.

01/13/14 x2 Before the move. She responded beautifully to all training. I'll be holding down the top branches the first 2 weeks, and then releasing.

01/14/14 After the move to BLOOM BLOOM ROOM.

I normally dont post my veggin pics here, but I figured thise who know me might be tuping what the fuck is up with y. So I wanted to give y'all a full update. I know she blooms rather fast so I'll update more often.

I will be poppin 6 Overlord's coming up soon, so as soon as we get more Minion buds in the BLOOM BLOOM ROOM I'll hit y'all up.

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She looks mighty fine y

they like being tied down.

Hi SeafOur and thanks for directing me to this thread on organics. So here is the question I have. I have been doing compost teas, organic with bat, bird, humix, fulvix, compost and molasses once a week. Mid week I am using Humbolt Organics Amino Acid Chelated Master A & B since it is the only "soup style" of commercially made nutrients that is not using the EDTA process of synthetically chelating the nutrients.

So the question is this. The soil is getting the tea it likes and the beneficials are hopefully happy. I have been told, possibly incorrectly, that the over the counter "soup style" nutrients are hurting the beneficials that I am trying to grow in the soil by using the tea. Can I get your input on this?

jmo boo so tifwiw

I'd lighten up on the tea usage. You can burn your plants with organics believe me.

In fact only 1 or 2 the whole grow might be best.
one near the start and one in flower. If you soil is working like it should then thats plenty.

Found out the hard way my last grow on the teas.
overdid the microbes = burn,slow growth ,low yield


The humboldt isn't even necessary with the tea.
do one or the other.

That microscope is sweet.
Using a $12 Radioshack one here and it is a pain.

 

[Seaf0ur]

curious about the quality... the price seems ridiculous...

and overdoing teas leans favor to bacteria and fungi suffers potentially leading to a problem with somethin called ph...

 

[Seaf0ur]

If you gotta feel like you're doing something look up Sprouted Seed Teas..... SST's can be done much more often....

 

[bamboogardner]

Thanks for the info X. I have a ton more questions for sure and Ill be posting on them. As far as the microscope, yes, pricey little bitch. But since my day in the sun has long passed, I have a tough enough of a time seeing through glasses, notwithstanding squinting through a small little loupe.

Anything that I can use to help look at the subject matter in order to assist its growth, I am going for. My annual 39th birthday is coming up in a few months and I am hoping the birthday fairy will bring me one. Not that interested in all the photo saving features, just the magnification. You could really see when the trics are turning with that puppy for sure. Bring it in and download to the pc. Heaven for sure.

And for all you guys that have the glue, you could post pics and videos in the forum so I could drool.

 

[Seaf0ur]

My annual 39th birthday

And for all you guys that have the glue, you could post pics and videos in the forum so I could drool.

you have a 39th birthday every year?

I think Pepe and I are the only ones here who have the glue right now.... but thats kinda off topic, this is really for the dark strains... I dont post my glue often.... maybe when she flowers.... you should really go back and check through some of the thread.... check out the strains... who's who and whatnot... we got some chem growers... its a variety of folk here... you'll have a few things to drool over in this thread as well...

Put 4 noc seeds to coconut&water... chose 3 to be female 1 to be male... Its time to get it on.

 

[Seaf0ur]

I'll build a male pollination chamber when the time comes.

 

[bamboogardner]

I was quite involved in the GSC strain for some time and got quite knowledgeable on it, but not as much as some though. Grew them all out, but could never get much of a yield, except with the Thin Mints. I have a few crosses going now and the thin mint, platinum cross looks promising.

Problem where I am at is the friggin electricity is so expensive that I do not do the indoor thing anymore. Two 1000's was costing me over a thousand a month. So I just am running the t5's just to keep the bonsai moms happy. I await spring every year like a high school girl on prom night.

Someone mentioned to me last fall that I must be glad that it was all in and being harvested. My answer was no. I am actually.... well, the right word evades me, but saddened that it has come to an end. I know this sounds crazy, but I have a chair and table in the "orchard" and just go out there and sit taking in all the beauty. Between the bamboo dancing in the breeze and the girls getting ready for graduation, well it does not get much better than that. I guess as you get older your priorities change in life.

 

[bamboogardner]

That microscope is sweet. Using a $12 Radioshack one here and it is a pain.

My Radioshack Microscope is laying out back over the fence somewhere. Couldn't throw it far enough, lol

 

[PakaloloFromPNW]

Thanks for the info X. I have a ton more questions for sure and Ill be posting on them.

If you have the urge to go totally organic I'd and I'm sure others would gladly help you start down that path. It is the most forgiving and easiest way to grow. That's my opinion anyway but you can make it simple or complex. I prefer simple.

 

[bamboogardner]

Okay Pak. With going organic, that would mean no nutes, just feeding from the soil? What about these over the counter ferts that are advertising organic. I figured, maybe incorrectly that I give the soil the tea and let the beasties grow. And whatever the plants could not get from the ground, itI would be supplemented with the Humboldt nutrients. Am I wrong here?

 

[3Deez]

Noc does purple, just not real dark.
Probably the most purple seed that you may have.
All are a worthy grow though.

Yessum both nocs I had turned purple one way more than the other. But both had more of a red burgundy color thank purple.

Here's my noc's, 2 phenos in one grow bag at week 6-7
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Sorry to back track here but I just wanted to say thanks for the responses. Man this thread picked up some momentum!!

Thanks Gold Hill, those are exactly the pics I was talking about. I really like how she darkened up at that point. Mine is a lot smaller but getting chunky as heck none the less.

SG, I keep having to catch up here. Looks like the old place again with all the minions at it again! I know that I cant match up to the level of purp that you have with your results. I still cant get over the beauty of that neon pheno!! Man....she was a gorgeous girl!

 

[3Deez]

Okay Pak. With going organic, that would mean no nutes, just feeding from the soil? What about these over the counter ferts that are advertising organic. I figured, maybe incorrectly that I give the soil the tea and let the beasties grow. And whatever the plants could not get from the ground, itI would be supplemented with the Humboldt nutrients. Am I wrong here?

Im still learning and very much a rookie but IMO, its all about getting that soil dialed in...which can be a bit more difficult than most realize...especially when you're like me and cant keep your mitts off long enough to let the soil and plant do their thing. Too much teas and such will throw off things to the point where you might freak out and think that you're looking at deficiencies...then the downslide starts.

 

[Pepe le skunk]

Use a 3 part water cycle.
Water
Nutes
Vermille tea
Once a month in water cycle cal mag is added and once with molasses mixed in.

Once a month in the vermilli feeding I'll add great white (bubbled in a small trash can for 2-3 days with molasses as food) also mix in a product called pure blend each vermille feeding.

The nutes feeding is NPK 3 part from GH. Sometimes Ill add silicone and vitamino.

Soil is a mix of 1/4 sub cools super soil homemade, 3 parts coco/ light warrior.
When transferred to 7 gallon bag an additional layer of super soil is mixed between layers of coco/ light warrior.

Seems to get things moving. Even though there are salt ferts added it ends up being only like twice or 3 times total in a month.
One thing I am going to add to the mix is a product with fungie that seafour suggested.

One thing I really like is the light soil and coco mix allows more air/ oxygen to get to the roots. Will probably upgrade the 7 gallon containers to 10 gallon geopots for additional air pruning of the roots lifted on milk crates for great air flow under the airpots. Think it makes a huge difference to the roots and soil.

Lastly here is a Goblin Queen transplanted to a 1 gallon container. I'll take another picture of her in a week.
Enjoy.

 

[Seaf0ur]

to be specific, I recommend BioAg VAM This product is Endo Mycorrhizal fungi with some naturally occurring bacteria.... this is one of the ONLY products that does not contain Trichoderma....

Trichoderma will use the Mycorrhizal fungi as a food source.... making most ineffective products....


My ole lady stuck aside a couple buds a few weeks back and forgot..... Just found em.... I think this is Halo.....

 

[PakaloloFromPNW]

Okay Pak. With going organic, that would mean no nutes, just feeding from the soil? What about these over the counter ferts that are advertising organic. I figured, maybe incorrectly that I give the soil the tea and let the beasties grow. And whatever the plants could not get from the ground, itI would be supplemented with the Humboldt nutrients. Am I wrong here?

You don't feed the soil you feed what lives in the soil. That life in the soil is what feeds your plants. You need bacteria in the soil that helps break down the nutrients and make them available to the plants. The fungi in the soil develops a symbiontic relation with the plants roots and helps deliver the nutrients that have been released by the bacteria. It starts getting more complicated from here.

In order to provide the proper environment you need to start with a base soil that provides the bulk of the material that you add your amendments to. If you are trying to mix bottled nutrients (whether its labeled organic or not) with an organic grow then you are not creating the proper environment to get the soil food web to develop.

When you get the base soil mixed and add the amendments to it and allow it to start breaking down the nutrients in the soil mix for at least 4 weeks then you're creating the environment that will bring the soil to life. It's the living soil that feeds your plants. So the need to bottled nutrients to feed the plants is not only unnecessary but detrimental to the health of the living microbes in the soil.

 

[PakaloloFromPNW]

Im still learning and very much a rookie but IMO, its all about getting that soil dialed in...which can be a bit more difficult than most realize...especially when you're like me and cant keep your mitts off long enough to let the soil and plant do their thing. Too much teas and such will throw off things to the point where you might freak out and think that you're looking at deficiencies...then the downslide starts.

When you get a soil mix and nutrient cycled with your amendments and put your plants into it the hardest thing is to LITFA.

 

[sundance6758]

I got 3 GQ seeds pulled out of the glass of water and pushed into some moist ProMix. 2 of the GQ based on the seed chart should be female. The third GQ may be female but I couldn't get a good look at the end of it.

I've got a Noctural seed to pop and it was put into moist ProMix and it should be female according to the seed chart.

Did Y'all figure out if that chart really truly works? And what is a PPM.....

~Sundance~

 

[Seaf0ur]

Okay Pak. With going organic, that would mean no nutes, just feeding from the soil? What about these over the counter ferts that are advertising organic. I figured, maybe incorrectly that I give the soil the tea and let the beasties grow. And whatever the plants could not get from the ground, itI would be supplemented with the Humboldt nutrients. Am I wrong here?

without being familiar with that brand or its construction, I'd still say you're probably fighting yourself..... you add teas to add microbial life, then kill them, then replace them, then kill them....

 

[Seaf0ur]

Did Y'all figure out if that chart really truly works? And what is a PPM.....

~Sundance~

its at least 80% effective or more..... and I dont speak texting LOL... its a part per million.

 

[3Deez]

When you get a soil mix and nutrient cycled with your amendments and put your plants into it the hardest thing is to LITFA.

You got that right Pak! Its a bad habit that I have. I keep my clones running so it takes a lot of my "need to have hands on" away, lol.