Colorado Growers Thread

[dragging hooks]

Interesting reading here the last week or so

new shops won't really involve me unless they sell clean clones
got my plant count down to legal limit
had a cop car out front today and I didn't freak out for a change
digging this whole law abiding citizen stuff

6 plants is more than enough for me
I use my extra to bribe our son into bringing the grand kids over
"no babies - no buds" is the running joke

 

[Jhhnn]

Interesting reading here the last week or so

new shops won't really involve me unless they sell clean clones
got my plant count down to legal limit
had a cop car out front today and I didn't freak out for a change
digging this whole law abiding citizen stuff

6 plants is more than enough for me
I use my extra to bribe our son into bringing the grand kids over
"no babies - no buds" is the running joke

Heh. Being legal is a hoot, huh?

And I'm with you about the whole plant limitation thing. So far, keeping up with demand at my place has been easy, provided that we don't get silly generous. If I want more, I'll just become a better grower. Not that I intend to do it, but a six plant Gettogro is entirely legal for any couple. Have you checked out his thread?

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=236262

 

[2 Legal Co]

I wonder how long the Feds are going to maintain the 'no medical use' line?

Israel has Vaporizers in it's KIMO wards.

Now France has OKed it for MS 'muscle spasms'.

How does the rest of the world view our position? You'd think even a bunch of I'dot* lawyers (congress) could figure it out.


*I'dot: Not enough sense to be an Idiot.

 

[BigTex]

2016???

2016???

lesterburum:
just so yall understand, there will be NO new rec licenses issued untill 2016, untill then only those who held their MED license prior to oct 2012;
so even IF you did get a new med license (or purchased an existing one after oct 2012) you could only sell to MED shops NOT REC.

and fyi, the licensing process is SERIOUS, not "just anyone" can get one, the state is kinda selective, especially when giving out NEW licenses... it'd be easier (and alot more expensive) to just buy an existing license holder out.

NO "vending" is not making a comeback, (don't expect it too either!)
no you can't bring in your extra herb or wax to sell to a shop,
no there is not an easy and legal way to be able to sell to shops.

So what you're saying is new licenses won't be issued until 2016?
I've already submitted my letter of intent and will file an application in July for a recreational cultivation license. That sure makes it hard for someone like me to maintain a no operating place of business for two years. I'm property shopping now so that I can obtain the property and have an address to list on my application in July., but it's gonna be two years before I have the possibility of being up and running? Iif that's the case I need to find a med facility that would be willing to let me operate under their license and provide to them in the meantime or my costs are gonna be through the roof before my first return. Ugh!

 

[Jhhnn]

I wonder how long the Feds are going to maintain the 'no medical use' line?

Israel has Vaporizers in it's KIMO wards.

Now France has OKed it for MS 'muscle spasms'.

How does the rest of the world view our position? You'd think even a bunch of I'dot* lawyers (congress) could figure it out.


*I'dot: Not enough sense to be an Idiot.

I think that's a distraction from the real legalization effort, currently occurring at the State level. The Feds threw it out the window years ago when they tolerated MMJ at all, not to mention MMJ in DC created by an act of Congress.

Congress is hopeless atm. Claims have been made that the Obama Admin (through the DEA) can de-schedule w/o Congress. If advocates can bring more states on board, it would certainly encourage doing so.

After the election in 2016, a lame duck Obama could do a lot of things that might not seem politically expedient now. Their stance (so far) on legalization in WA & CO is a giant green light for activists everywhere. It's probably cause for a lot of rumbling & grumbling in the DEA & among US Attorneys, as well.

 

[aridbud]

2016?
Yep, Big Tex....Avinash.miles is correct. Provisions for licenses are tighter than shrunken jeans!!! May as well submit your info....you'll be ahead of others 'just thinking' about the business venture. State level, yes, Federal level, probably no.

With the election of a new President, selecting someone other than E. Holder as A.G.....this can all come to pass.....esp. a right wing thinking Prez. trying to undo what's on the States' avenues of an ancillary tax base. Scary!!!!

 

[2 Legal Co]

I think that's a distraction from the real legalization effort, currently occurring at the State level. The Feds threw it out the window years ago when they tolerated MMJ at all, not to mention MMJ in DC created by an act of Congress.

Congress is hopeless atm. Claims have been made that the Obama Admin (through the DEA) can de-schedule w/o Congress. If advocates can bring more states on board, it would certainly encourage doing so.

After the election in 2016, a lame duck Obama could do a lot of things that might not seem politically expedient now. Their stance (so far) on legalization in WA & CO is a giant green light for activists everywhere. It's probably cause for a lot of rumbling & grumbling in the DEA & among US Attorneys, as well.

All true... but we do need the Federal Statutes to be amended so that whoever gets elected President, and or whoever the President appoints as A.G. ,,,, will be unable to make their own policy.

I regularly email our Congress people, encouraging them to get and keep positive changes on the 'table'. I'm hoping that they'll be successful soon.

 

[2 Legal Co]

By the way: Has anyone heard anything further about the 'busts' recently? They were reported as 'Cartel',,,, and disappeared quickly from the news.

Amazing what is "news" and what isn't even reported these days.

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

these days they use the word "news" because "opinion molding" is just too hard to spell.

but on the other hand they use "polar vortex" because "cold" just isn't sexy enough

our media has become a very sad joke

 

[2 Legal Co]

Aljazeera America seems to still know the definition. They even had 3 people arrested in Egypt.... just released today/yesterday.

I see it @ Ch 347 AJAM on Direct TV.

They even SEEM to be able to report without a 'slant'.

 

[ubi]

heard they might move the moratorium up to oct 14. bc rec cant keep up. so new opc licenses. and more rec licenses to prev. license holders.
also ..... a state pound price to go now lower than 1857.00 a # for rec. i think..........

i hear a lot................ i like to see whats on the books tho befor i jump the gun on a license

 

[JohnnyATL]

so im wondering what the timeframe is going to be on opening more rec shops...is it purely based on when they put in the paper work, or has the state limited the amount that can apply within X amount of time? More specifically, when is La casa cann'bis in san luis gonna open for rec?

 

[Avinash.miles]

so im wondering what the timeframe is going to be on opening more rec shops...is it purely based on when they put in the paper work, or has the state limited the amount that can apply within X amount of time? More specifically, when is La casa cann'bis in san luis gonna open for rec?

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

any MED shop that had their med license prior to oct 2012 can convert to a rec shop (after re-licensing and being re-inspected)... canna-biz's that DID NOT have their MED license before oct 2012 can convert AFTER jan1st 2016.
That is vertical integration, that is how the rules have been written.

If you want to know when (or IF at all) a specific shop is going to open for rec, simply CALL THEM and ASK!
it really is that simple, peeps.

Trust me, the state is doing everything it can to "vertically integrate" med shops into rec (dual purpose really). Colorado is poised to bring in major $$$ from recreational cannabis taxes, the more rec shops licensed by the state the more tax $$$ rolling in every day.

 

[JohnnyATL]

with the caveat of the municipality allowing rec sales IE not passing moratoriums against them. Also, this is like saying that any med shop can do it automatically, which is not necessarily true due to the licensing process and the time it takes.

BUTTTT i will just give them a call, they are closed today

 

[Avinash.miles]

with the caveat of the municipality allowing rec sales IE not passing moratoriums against them. Also, this is like saying that any med shop can do it automatically, which is not necessarily true due to the licensing process and the time it takes.

BUTTTT i will just give them a call, they are closed today

yes, most shops must be licensed both at the local level and the state level
but
i did not say it happens automaticaly, you must have inferred that, but I did say it takes RE-licensing and RE-inspections, also take a look at the "retail" thread for more info. also takes $$$, so unsuccessful shops will not be able to afford relicensing.

and yes "it takes time"
but that's why i addressed the fact that the state actually gives a damn now ant that "time" will most likely be minimized (if there are no hangups at the local level) in order to get funds flowing from these rec shops into the state treasury via taxes.

 

[Ttystikk]

Greetings from Northern Colorado- and that 'other' place... it's nice to make your acquaintance!

 

[dragging hooks]

Colorado List of Recreational Dispensaries
prices below are for 1/8th of an ounce, including tax.
Data last collected on Jan 11th by phone with dispensaries

http://marillow.com/pages/colorado-list-of-recreational-dispensaries

 

[Corvette Doc]

The San Luis Valley might just be the worst place on Earth to try to grow (even indoors). Look up record cold for Alamosa...It gets worse than Alaska there at times and frequently gets listed as the coldest place in the USA. The lack of water up there is an expensive problem, and the utilities are not reliable and very high as well. Everything costs more up there because of delivery problems.
In the end you would be very sad to choose that area...hope i got to you soon enough.

 

[Avinash.miles]

:
BUT
the next valley over to the east, don't know the name of it off hand, bt the one with the ARKANSAS river running thru it, canyon city, salida, buena vista is pretty great for growing. I never had any problem with inconsistent power or water up there... worst thing for growing entirely outdoor would be the WIND, imo
that just may be the one of the BEST place in the state to grow, and its just next door to the san luis.
BV and salida have longer growing seasons than denver about half the time, the other half it's about the same, IME.

Corvette doc is DEF right about shit being more expensive out there... everything,
BUT
IME its also easier to tap into free food from food banks, and from what i hear, easier to get food stamps out there than on the front range.

ALSO, up outside fairplay in southpark is becoming pretty productive greenhouse territory....

 

[Corvette Doc]

:
BUT
the next valley over to the east, don't know the name of it off hand, bt the one with the ARKANSAS river running thru it, canyon city, salida, buena vista is pretty great for growing. I never had any problem with inconsistent power or water up there... worst thing for growing entirely outdoor would be the WIND, imo
that just may be the one of the BEST place in the state to grow, and its just next door to the san luis.
BV and salida have longer growing seasons than denver about half the time, the other half it's about the same, IME.

Corvette doc is DEF right about shit being more expensive out there... everything,
BUT
IME its also easier to tap into free food from food banks, and from what i hear, easier to get food stamps out there than on the front range.

ALSO, up outside fairplay in southpark is becoming pretty productive greenhouse territory....

That is the Arkansas Valley...From the top of that mountain till it reaches Kansas. I am lucky enough to live on the edge of the "banana Belt" area that seams to hold around Canon City through Pueblo West and partly into Pueblo here.

We experience a strange doughnut hole protection from a large number of storms. BUT we do get some harsh warm spells in late summer that are hard to work around your first couple of grows(outdoor and green-house grows). DO PROTECT FROM THE INEVITIBLE HAIL STORMS! Some are real vicious.

If you are heading to Colorful Colorado to grow i would seriously recomend the Canon City area as the best option in Colorado. There is another valley on the West Slope that Wineries have setteled into that sounds just as good from some of the people i have known but i don't have the years of watching the weather over there to be sure it just as good.

I litterally put up a 9 foot industrial strength chain-link fence/dog-run, Welded up a frame to hold some solex panels and ran shade cloth around the inside perimeter to build my grow space. It survived an attempted break-in last July and the idiot who tried is no longer an issue... So i have been happy thus far with my 3rd year down and got my first plants (NYCD & MILF) to produce more than a pound with one almost hitting the 2 pound level(MILF)...That plant actually grew side-ways after hitting my roof and didn't get done till just a couple of days before Halloween after clone started on Valentines day. But my Grape Apes still won't go over a half-LB??? I am not sure if it is just genetic differences or if i am doing something i don't see? Those questions always drive you nuts but make this hobby a little exciting.