UFC 168: Weidman vs. Silva II

[SPG*]

I agree because of his "line of work" more likely that the Bar/Plate will stay in his leg.
That bone Appears so Different to the Thema (thigh bone) when touching it it feels flat! But I gather it's round at the back I.e enough mass to insert a Bar or there would be no Option but a plate with screws

 

[nukklehead]

Weidman acquired a "skill" thru training to defend the leg kick. They brought a specialist into his camp to deal with silvas weapon.

I wonder if more MMA fighters will learn this "leg kick defense"
and adopt it into there arsenal. This could be an evolution ( as there have been many and more to come) of MMA...

Many a great fighter ( Aldo,silva etc.) have made bread and butter
off leg kicks. If fighters learn how to nullify great leg kickers and potentially cause injury and stoppage to them this could be a game
changer for many a fight to come. I have no favorites, Im merely
a great fan of the sport as it is still young and continues to evolve.

Machida brought in ( back) karate. Rousey has judo and arm bars,
but somebody cerebral enough will always evolve to defend, transition or do it in a new and better way to win.

Thats why I love MMA..

 

[SPG*]

Know what your sayin' NH but I think fighters do that already it's called "Checking kicks".
Obviously performed precisely by Weidman so Silva ended up Breaking his own leg through his own Power

Makes me think if Uriah Faber Would of used "abit" of that against Jose Aldo he would of been more Successful

 

[Green lung]

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Jean-Claude didn't break his leg on that palm tree?






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[Elmer Bud]

G`day Nukkle Head

Big difference when a left handed fighter meets a righty .
Anthony Pettis deliberately fights Sth Paw [left hand rear hand ] so he can use the rear leg to kick to the rightside abdomen / ribs and attack the liver .He beat up Donald Cerrone and Benson Henderson with that kick . Even though he`s a right hander .
Anderson Kicked very hard to the inside of Weidman`s lead leg meeting his knee when checked . Jose Aldo fights right handed and kicks the outside lead thigh of right handed fighters . So Uriah would need to stand Sth Paw to check the kick in the same way as Weidman . In a mirror image .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Shcrews]

Weidman acquired a "skill" thru training to defend the leg kick. They brought a specialist into his camp to deal with silvas weapon.

I wonder if more MMA fighters will learn this "leg kick defense"
and adopt it into there arsenal. This could be an evolution ( as there have been many and more to come) of MMA...

Many a great fighter ( Aldo,silva etc.) have made bread and butter
off leg kicks. If fighters learn how to nullify great leg kickers and potentially cause injury and stoppage to them this could be a game
changer for many a fight to come. I have no favorites, Im merely
a great fan of the sport as it is still young and continues to evolve.

Machida brought in ( back) karate. Rousey has judo and arm bars,
but somebody cerebral enough will always evolve to defend, transition or do it in a new and better way to win.

Thats why I love MMA..

I love modern MMA as well, and the many innovations that it has brought, but dude but using one's knee to check a low kick is an old technique. pretty basic stuff in Muay Thai.

It is an old technique but Weidman practiced it and timed it well, and we saw the result on Anderson Silva's leg. Less devestating but still worth noting is Korean Zombie's kick-checking in his fight with jose aldo, resulted in Aldo breaking his foot.

The thing they teach you in Muay Thai is to set up your low kicks with punches, front kicks, and high kicks, so that the opponent does not anticipate them and therefore does not have time to block them with his knee. It is often low kicks which do the most damage in a fight.

 

[Bmac1]

YEs, checking a leg kick is the first thing you learn after learning how to throw a leg kick. It was just perfectly timed. This tyoe of break has happened a few times in MMA and kickboxing.

The rod in his leg CAN be removed, sure, but it would make no sense to a guy that wants to fight again. IT would likely double his recovery time and add more rehab work on top. It would mean instead of being out for a year, he would be out for 18-24 months and at 38 years old in a sport thats rapidly passing him by.

Problem is that having a rod in your leg makes the part where the rod is rigid to aid in the healing of the bone, but at the cost of an increased chance of breaking the leg again where the rod isnt. I guess that why they went with a rod that was longer. In Silvas leg it goes pretty much the whole length of the shin.

 

[RetroGrow]

YEs, checking a leg kick is the first thing you learn after learning how to throw a leg kick. It was just perfectly timed. This tyoe of break has happened a few times in MMA and kickboxing.

The rod in his leg CAN be removed, sure, but it would make no sense to a guy that wants to fight again. IT would likely double his recovery time and add more rehab work on top. It would mean instead of being out for a year, he would be out for 18-24 months and at 38 years old in a sport thats rapidly passing him by.

Problem is that having a rod in your leg makes the part where the rod is rigid to aid in the healing of the bone, but at the cost of an increased chance of breaking the leg again where the rod isnt. I guess that why they went with a rod that was longer. In Silvas leg it goes pretty much the whole length of the shin.

It can be removed in the future if necessary. There would be no reason to remove it now, or they wouldn't have put it in.

 

[Ickis]

I am an RN so I am not guessing about this.

There is no Thema. The thigh bone is the femur. The lower leg has two bones the fibula and the tibia. The fibula is the bigger one and the tibia is the smaller one.

http://fractured-fibula.wikispaces.com/Introduction

Anderson broke both of his lower leg bones. One he broke clean through and had to have a metal rod inserted inside. The doctor described it as a nail in a straw. So you have a straw cut in two and put a nail inside with glue that fill most of the space. Then the 2 straw halves are pushed together. But it is bone. When they heal the rod is inside the healed bone. You would have to break it or cut it again to take it out. ??? They don't do that.

If it was repaired with plates screwed to the outside of the bones, to stabilize the fracture until it heals, they sometimes do go back in and remove the plates. But often they don't.

Now this next part I don't know about but I wonder about it. If he has a small rod inside a bone will they let him fight again. It would be like having a weighted glove or bat. Did you ever wrap a wiffle ball bat with duct tape. You can hit a ball a mile because there is more weight in the bat but not enough to slow down the swing.

I would think he couldn't fight with a weight in his leg. I could be wrong though.

 

[RetroGrow]

I am an RN so I am not guessing about this.

There is no Thema. The thigh bone is the femur. The lower leg has two bones the fibula and the tibia. The fibula is the bigger one and the tibia is the smaller one.

http://fractured-fibula.wikispaces.com/Introduction

Anderson broke both of his lower leg bones. One he broke clean through and had to have a metal rod inserted inside. The doctor described it as a nail in a straw. So you have a straw cut in two and put a nail inside with glue that fill most of the space. Then the 2 straw halves are pushed together. But it is bone. When they heal the rod is inside the healed bone. You would have to break it or cut it again to take it out. ??? They don't do that.

If it was repaired with plates screwed to the outside of the bones, to stabilize the fracture until it heals, they sometimes do go back in and remove the plates. But often they don't.

Now this next part I don't know about but I wonder about it. If he has a small rod inside a bone will they let him fight again. It would be like having a weighted glove or bat. Did you ever wrap a wiffle ball bat with duct tape. You can hit a ball a mile because there is more weight in the bat but not enough to slow down the swing.

I would think he couldn't fight with a weight in his leg. I could be wrong though.

You are both wrong, and a douche.
He's allowed to fight with the rod, and the rod can be taken out, as per quote from the SURGEON who put it in.
Nurse opinions don't count, but I bet you look cute in your nurses outfit.

 

[vapor]

I guess when you look back at silva, he has has a lot of magic moments. knock out's from no where, dancing with fists of furry with the most elite fighters in the world. When this happens it kinda rings true to silva's legacy one word "wow!"

 

[Spider Crab]

Does anyone else think Belfort will KO Weidman?

I don't see Weidman holding the belt for long, i think he was just a very bad match for Silva.

But i don't know much.........

 

[RetroGrow]

Does anyone else think Belfort will KO Weidman?

I don't see Weidman holding the belt for long, i think he was just a very bad match for Silva.

But i don't know much.........

Belfort is capable of knocking out anyone. He is very explosive. The question is will they allow the testosterone therapy in Vegas? He has been getting it in Brazil, and he has been a monster. Lot's of other guys use it too. Dan Henderson uses it, among others.
Anyone who stands and trades with Belfort can be knocked out. His last fight ended in about 30 seconds.
That is the most talented division right now. Lyoto Machida has dropped down from light heavyweight, so he is used to fighting much bigger guys. He can be a force because of his deadly striking/kicking, and he has very quick feet to avoid takedowns. Silva will be back too, and there are a bunch of other talented middleweights.

 

[nukklehead]

I love modern MMA as well, and the many innovations that it has brought, but dude but using one's knee to check a low kick is an old technique. pretty basic stuff in Muay Thai.

It is an old technique but Weidman practiced it and timed it well, and we saw the result on Anderson Silva's leg. Less devestating but still worth noting is Korean Zombie's kick-checking in his fight with jose aldo, resulted in Aldo breaking his foot.

The thing they teach you in Muay Thai is to set up your low kicks with punches, front kicks, and high kicks, so that the opponent does not anticipate them and therefore does not have time to block them with his knee. It is often low kicks which do the most damage in a fight.

schcrews, elmerbudd. et.all...

love your comments.. yes I know some muay thai fighters that just
cringe at the techniques used in mma.. good -- bad--

right vs south paw...

Just evolution baby.. Just evolution...

thats what makes it the greatest sport of our generation...:yay:

 

[nukklehead]

BTW.. wont get into the weidman belfort argument..

But IMO.. the greatest weapon a human being possesses is the
one between there ears... the one who utilizes this muscle to
their greatest advantage... well...............time will tell

 

[vapor]

Does anyone else think Belfort will KO Weidman?

I don't see Weidman holding the belt for long, i think he was just a very bad match for Silva.

But i don't know much.........

I just feel weidmen has no character, nothing that draws you to his personality, some folks have it and other not so much{weidman}. As far as victor{vitor} who knows seems to have a crab shoe up his horse/

 

[Ickis]

You are both wrong, and a douche.
He's allowed to fight with the rod, and the rod can be taken out, as per quote from the SURGEON who put it in.
Nurse opinions don't count, but I bet you look cute in your nurses outfit.

Says the guy who's user icon is a picture of his own ass.

post a link to that quote.

It can be done in rare instances where the rod could cause another fracture if there is stress. Otherwise it is complicated to remove. Holes have to be filled and basically it is almost like you broke it again. So he had it fixed. He won't start training for 9 months. If he had it removed he would be delayed another 9 months. He is going to be basically 2 years older before he can even start training again.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/12/...r-steve-mora-discusses-anderson-silvas-injury

You are both wrong? WTF???

You must still be seeing double from the beating you took at yoga class at the hands of some old lady.

If you had a time machine and stayed your age but went back to when I was 12 I would kick your ass.

 

[Ickis]

They only remove them for pain or irritation. The reason is because you have to start the healing all over again. They have to cut and drill bone to remove them. The only difference is now it is a controlled break (surgical). Most time it is done for kids who have a bone that is still growing so it has to be removed. They mostly use a plate on the side of a bone in kids though.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2384239/

Oh and there is a chance of death when it is being removed. Just like when a large bone is broken there is a chance of death from emboli.

So I am sure if it heals up just fine but he couldn't fight again that Silva will say 'take it out". It will be worth the chance of death so I can fight 2 more times at most before I am too old to fight anymore.

 

[Bmac1]

Belfort is capable of knocking out anyone. He is very explosive. The question is will they allow the testosterone therapy in Vegas? He has been getting it in Brazil, and he has been a monster. Lot's of other guys use it too. Dan Henderson uses it, among others.
Anyone who stands and trades with Belfort can be knocked out. His last fight ended in about 30 seconds.
That is the most talented division right now. Lyoto Machida has dropped down from light heavyweight, so he is used to fighting much bigger guys. He can be a force because of his deadly striking/kicking, and he has very quick feet to avoid takedowns. Silva will be back too, and there are a bunch of other talented middleweights.

MW is far from the most talented division. It has historically been one of the weaker divisions. It has gotten much better recently but still has nothing on the WW division which is and has been the most stacked division in MMA for a very long time.

 

[Ickis]

It is a tricky surgery with no guaranteed outcome it will help with pain.

http://www.healio.com/orthopedics/t...ullary-nail-removal151the-sword-and-the-stone