Amendment 64 is a moral failure, here's why

[blueberry99]

From my personal perspective, A64 is an abysmal moral failure. In my opinion, there should be an option for out of state residents to get a MMJ card, or, instead of having to suffer the indignity of being labeled a recreational user, at least it should be called over the counter medical sales. Now, you will have sick people filtering in from all over the place in hopes of trying CBD strains, but none will be found on recreational menus. You will have greedy dispensaries and the state bilking sick consumers as a punishment for being a recreational consumer, when in fact you are really a patient seeking relief. It would have been the correct thing to do to keep it all medical, but just allow for medical to now be over the counter like tylenol. Instead, greed has won over compassion, as usual.

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

greed has won over compassion, as usual.

and the whole system has always been set up so the greedy are rewarded!

when the dam broke on amendment 20 there were doctors charging $300 or more to sign a rec and there were people standing in line to get fucked

when out of state money started pouring in to finance dispensaries our politicians stood by and watched because they wanted to control and tax the shit out of them

when individual patients try to have any effect on the whole debate they are pretty much ignored

and i'm not surprised whatsoever

when money is the fuel that runs the whole game things get fucked up very quickly

 

[satva]

How could Colorado amend another states marijuana laws?

 

[blueberry99]

How could Colorado amend another states marijuana laws?

I'm not sure if I follow you

 

[olMilly]

I live near Denver and have heard now because of the shortage of herb, businesses are selling buds that have either been chopped that day/within a few days of chop that are still wet and uncured. I haven't been to the rec shops because of the cost and I have my med license, but some people are just smoking wet nugs for $60/eighth after tax and either don't know or don't care hah.

 

[blueberry99]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's happening, but the difference in you and me is that I don't think it's funny.

 

[olMilly]

yeah take it for what you will, i was moreso scoffing at the situation but agree that it is not good for them to be doing that

 

[Scottish Research]

The moral failure is when sanctioned med state growers send their weed into my state.



R.Fortune

 

[1TWISTEDTRUCKER]

I'm not sure if I follow you

Well A64 is an amendment to The Colorado State Constitution.

Folks can come and purchase, and Use Mj. in Colorado.
There is NOTHING that Colorado Citizens, or Politicians can do about the laws of other States, which is what I hear You bitching about.

Perhaps I've misinterpreted Your complaints.

Just what is so wrong with being labeled a Recreational User?

Peace; 1TT

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

From my personal perspective, A64 is an abysmal moral failure. In my opinion, there should be an option for out of state residents to get a MMJ card, or, instead of having to suffer the indignity of being labeled a recreational user, at least it should be called over the counter medical sales. Now, you will have sick people filtering in from all over the place in hopes of trying CBD strains, but none will be found on recreational menus. You will have greedy dispensaries and the state bilking sick consumers as a punishment for being a recreational consumer, when in fact you are really a patient seeking relief. It would have been the correct thing to do to keep it all medical, but just allow for medical to now be over the counter like tylenol. Instead, greed has won over compassion, as usual.

Indignity? You come onto a herb community pitchin this.....need a hug

 

[Hydrosun]

The moral failure is when sanctioned med state growers send their weed into my state.



R.Fortune

Mr. Fortune,

That sounds like false effect of prohibition. Does it matter if the cannabis supplier is "Sanctioned" or an individual willing to violate federal schedule ONE drug laws by knowingly transporting cannabis across state lines?

I want amazing cannabis to be available to all that want it. I am glad to see the government get on-board with cannabis is "GOOD" (drop one O and we win).

As for moral failures I'm sure we all know our own, and don't need the government or our neighbors reminding us.

As to OP, the post by AS fits the bill.

 

[satva]

How could Colorado amend another states marijuana laws?
I'm not sure if I follow you

Medical sales of strains to alleviate the adverse effects of chemotherapy or back pain, if legit, will always be in demand, and should remain available. Some stores will continue to cater to their existing medical patients, those are the stores you should look for.

I don't know much about the modern medical strains, the last bag of pot I bought was in 1978.

 

[TheCleanGame]

It would have been the correct thing to do to keep it all medical

I'm sorry but it's retarded to have a separation of Medical and Recreational in the first place. This will cause massive backlash, you watch.

As for the passing of it? BEST F'ING THING TO HAPPEN TO AMERICA!! Is it perfect? F' NO!

Are we falling over ourselves with glee that people are free to talk about cannabis without fear of prosecution? YES

Are we falling over ourselves with glee that people are free to come to Colorado and find out that they've been lied to all their lives? YES!

Are we falling all over ourselves with glee that families will have significantly fewer members incarcerated this and in following years. YES!


Are we falling over ourselves with glee that people are allowed to grow their own MEDICINAL cannabis (if they want) in their own homes WITHOUT having to talk to a white-coat with an embossed piece of paper in a frame? YES!

You know... there's a downside somewhere but I can't seem to see it well with all the positives.

Keep it Clean!

 

[Jhhnn]

From my personal perspective, A64 is an abysmal moral failure. In my opinion, there should be an option for out of state residents to get a MMJ card, or, instead of having to suffer the indignity of being labeled a recreational user, at least it should be called over the counter medical sales. Now, you will have sick people filtering in from all over the place in hopes of trying CBD strains, but none will be found on recreational menus. You will have greedy dispensaries and the state bilking sick consumers as a punishment for being a recreational consumer, when in fact you are really a patient seeking relief. It would have been the correct thing to do to keep it all medical, but just allow for medical to now be over the counter like tylenol. Instead, greed has won over compassion, as usual.

There is no indignity to being a rec user, certainly not in Colorado. Get over yourself.

A64 has enormous compromises- that's why we could pass it. It's got something for nearly everybody. It's not designed to supply high cbd strains for med purposes, however. It's not about that, never was.

Current implementation is a kluge, no doubt, but it satisfies the most important requirement of all, that cannabis is now legal in Colorado- medical, OTC & growing in people's homes. This is the only place in the world where that's true.

Out of staters seeking high CBD strains weren't a consideration as the process unfolded. I think we may see some retail outlets offering some in the future, probably not all. It's very much a small niche in the greater scheme of things. If a person comes to Colorado for those purposes, it's likely that they'll be willing to dig a little deeper to find what they want.

It's hard to say quite what will happen after the new wears off & the furor dies down. OTOH, if demand for high cbd strains materializes at all, some shops will likely stock such product if only as an act of compassion.

And , uhh, it's not like such strains are easy to find big sellers in the existing med market, either.

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

Good luck finding high CBD strains on the Rec. side. Good luck at finding more than 5 different strains at a rec. shop. Better luck at trying to get something that was not chopped within the past 2 weeks.

These people from out if State are getting early cut, non-cured buds at almost double the price as what the locals can get Med for.

I believe if they knew what they were truly getting they would stay home, and continue to by Cali outdoor.

 

[Jhhnn]

Good luck finding high CBD strains on the Rec. side. Good luck at finding more than 5 different strains at a rec. shop. Better luck at trying to get something that was not chopped within the past 2 weeks.

These people from out if State are getting early cut, non-cured buds at almost double the price as what the locals can get Med for.

I believe if they knew what they were truly getting they would stay home, and continue to by Cali outdoor.

Have you actually seen any, bought any, smoked any?

Both the strawberry diesel and the buddha's sister I bought at Evergreen are entirely decently cured smoke, fairly potent, more stoney than high. The diesel has a bit of a metallic aftertaste. Having never smoked the stuff previously, I wonder if that's what others describe as strawberry. I say that as a wake & bake retiree who's been pumping up his tolerance with some excellent homegrown Satori & White Lavender.

Mine's better, but theirs isn't bad at all.

The market will evolve, more outlets will open up, and supply will meet demand before a helluva lot longer. Consumers will learn, too. We really can't tell where it's going at this point. What sells to tourists may not be what sells to locals at all.

High CBD weed? If there's a significant market for it, then it will be grown & sold, not necessarily everywhere.

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

Have you actually seen any, bought any, smoked any?

Both the strawberry diesel and the buddha's sister I bought at Evergreen are entirely decently cured smoke, fairly potent, more stoney than high. The diesel has a bit of a metallic aftertaste. Having never smoked the stuff previously, I wonder if that's what others describe as strawberry. I say that as a wake & bake retiree who's been pumping up his tolerance with some excellent homegrown Satori & White Lavender.

Mine's better, but theirs isn't bad at all.

The market will evolve, more outlets will open up, and supply will meet demand before a helluva lot longer. Consumers will learn, too. We really can't tell where it's going at this point. What sells to tourists may not be what sells to locals at all.

High CBD weed? If there's a significant market for it, then it will be grown & sold, not necessarily everywhere.

I have been in over 100 shops the past 3 months. Let's just say I have seen plenty.

 

[GeorgeWBush]

From my personal perspective, A64 is an abysmal moral failure. In my opinion, there should be an option for out of state residents to get a MMJ card, or, instead of having to suffer the indignity of being labeled a recreational user, at least it should be called over the counter medical sales. Now, you will have sick people filtering in from all over the place in hopes of trying CBD strains, but none will be found on recreational menus. You will have greedy dispensaries and the state bilking sick consumers as a punishment for being a recreational consumer, when in fact you are really a patient seeking relief. It would have been the correct thing to do to keep it all medical, but just allow for medical to now be over the counter like tylenol. Instead, greed has won over compassion, as usual.

this right here folks is a perfect example of someone who is never satisfied and a huge part of the problem in the United States....Colorado has secured a major victory in the war on oppression and not even 14 days later these moronic crunchy sissy ass liberal fucktards need to bitch and moan over semantics and what hat you have to wear in order to LEGALLY grow/ smoke/ possess marijuana......I'm so tired of idiots who feel so entitled to be a two faced hypocrite that they look a gift horse in the mouth.......get the fuck over yourself everyone else already has.....people are greedy and politics are designed to cater to greed since when is this news ? did you think corruption was just going to magically disappear because your a ultra sensitive whining idiot ?

 

[blueberry99]

this right here folks is a perfect example of someone who is never satisfied and a huge part of the problem in the United States....Colorado has secured a major victory in the war on oppression and not even 14 days later these moronic crunchy sissy ass liberal fucktards need to bitch and moan over semantics and what hat you have to wear in order to LEGALLY grow/ smoke/ possess marijuana......I'm so tired of idiots who feel so entitled to be a two faced hypocrite that they look a gift horse in the mouth.......get the fuck over yourself everyone else already has.....people are greedy and politics are designed to cater to greed since when is this news ? did you think corruption was just going to magically disappear because your a ultra sensitive whining idiot ?

U mad bro? I never said A64 wasn't a step in the right direction, but I just think that it has some serious shortcomings. To be clear, I do support recreational rights, but I believe that an amendment in 2016 would be in order. Start by de-felonizing cannabis entirely, expunging records, and allowing for out of state patients to get a card. The numbers support an easy win for that. A64 is progress, but so taking a #2.

 

[blueberry99]

By the way, if complaining about being over taxed and over regulated by big government makes me a sissy liberal fucktard, then what does that make you?