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[PWF]

i thought you were going to get your "big brother".
how come your version of ndnguy hasnt backed you up?
i'm not calling you a liar because i am a frivolous name-caller.
you are lying and that is what i call people who lie.
you even said ndnguy "flipped out" when you told him.
maybe he did that because you insist on this back story.
fyi, ndnguy has worked with alot of people who never needed to question his pre88g13/hp. at one point he used some old sensi/seedbank g13/hp on his pre88. if youre really his "little bro" how come you dont bring any of this up? i have both versions including a few variety of g13/butterscotch. did you know he was working with abg13? do you know what he did with it?
he never told you the 88/pre88 was from the seedbank/sensi. he said he used old seedbank stock on the butterscotch with swampy.
you are a poser.
where is your big bro?

 

[bioguy]

Would like to personally thank you for breaking it down into layman's terms. I tried reading the academic text that was posted earlier and I could only make it about a paragraph in. Not that I couldn't understand it, it's just so damn dry and boring I can't take it.

So thanks for doing this I "get" all this new NLD BLD lingo now

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You are welcome.

I extracted that from a book (google books) but did not have full text. There is more for me to learn in it so I bet this is even more complicated/interesting but thats a general summary.

 

[bioguy]

NLD

Gorgeous! Absolutely Gorgeous!

 

[bioguy]

bodhi did not make the clusterfunk btw, that was my creation.
shout that shit out ffs.
no, you wont give me any credit and that is ok.
it shows how much you really care.

Then start a thread about it so you can get credit where credit is due. Credit for making a one generation cross with a 20 year old strain. OR if its OK like you say then drop it.

2 days ago someone credited this thread as the reason they love forums.

Now its a who's who of breeders that breed a strain most of us have never heard of and is unavailable (as far as I can tell).

 

[bioguy]

Now it's official Everything you say should not be acknowledged

I'd love to hear what bodhi has to say about that

Once again ngnguy is still here , if he's your friend you would know that . If anything needed to be corrected he could do soo

I'm starting to wonder if you are related to Hempy

1luvbigherb

Can we please leave it alone. This thread is getting seriously hijacked

 

[bioguy]

Given that the NLD ancestor comes from north of Yunnan it seems like strains from that region may be helpful in breaking the breeding depression we have created. Anyone ever seen how high Ace Yunnan tested or have experience with crossing it or love the smoke.

I am really interested in the strain.

 

[bigherb]

Bioguy

No disrespect brother ,I've said it b4 but I'm done


Kali china from Ace seeds . I grew out 2 plants very similar end product one was much more vigorous . The smoke is special in effect the taste I got reminded me of haze hybrids in Adam coffeshops . I look forward to further exploring in the future

You can check my smoke report thread for details on K.C.

1luvbigherb

 

[symbiote420]

I agree 100% bioguy, hate to see such a nice thread smeared so in the sake of getting back on track I'm running this old school saty that a couple of MI heads have held closely for the past 30 years, she has no name ...and no ceiling to her! Smoking her I just keep getting higher and higher, some of my bros are scared to smoke it and it hasn't even cured more than a week yet ....don't know the lineage but she's very frosty, trippy, visual, and up meds ...no paranoia!







Took 17+ weeks of 12/12 to finish, may have been the RAs that pushed it back. I'm planning on hitting a Ghash male to it to hopefully shorten flowering time! I have some Golden Tiger beans and have been looking at other Ace & Cannabiogen strains because I feel the same way as you, maybe they will bring some of these killer hybrids back down to earth some! Got my eyes on the Malawi and Panama in specific!

@PWF the Clusterfunk I speak of was created by B himself, so many strains/crosses share the same or similar names nowadaze maybe that's where the confusion begins! And please try not to take the words I say so literal ....saying I'm bad means I'm good, when i say he "flipped out" it just meant he couldn't believe it!

 

[haulinbass]

Then start a thread about it so you can get credit where credit is due. Credit for making a one generation cross with a 20 year old strain. OR if its OK like you say then drop it.

2 days ago someone credited this thread as the reason they love forums.

Now its a who's who of breeders that breed a strain most of us have never heard of and is unavailable (as far as I can tell).

Its not unavailable, i have it and will make seeds and give them away just looking for a good pair right now. I know mine is legit because i asked n8tivefarmer and got a reply from ndnguy via pm. I wont say where the strain came from because i dont know, But i do know his is a shit ton better than sensis. Also allot of breeders choose to breed with ndnguys.

 

[bioguy]

Its not unavailable, i have it and will make seeds and give them away just looking for a good pair right now. I know mine is legit because i asked n8tivefarmer and got a reply from ndnguy via pm. I wont say where the strain came from because i dont know, But i do know his is a shit ton better than sensis. Also allot of breeders choose to breed with ndnguys.

If this strain rocks, I'm glad its around and I hope you help spread the love/cut/seeds.

As for unavailable...I don't see any of the people involved in this debate (or Bodhi) stocking it (seeds) but really what I am pointing out is the entire history of cannabis is so convoluted we don't even know where to get the absolute classics (NL, Skunk, Haze etc).

The internet has a tendency to create massive bitch fests that never never end. 20 years from now this could evolve into the new Nevil Shanti Arijan debate. Which is SUCH bullshit.

If its not for sale anymore I could not care less who created it (I'm glad its around and respect the breeders work...don't get me wrong). BUT The best way to give props to a breeder is with your wallet and if I can't buy it, my hands are tied.

 

[bioguy]

Bioguy

No disrespect brother

None taken and Thanks. It happens in all 20 page threads.

We are equals here...until we forget...then were not....lol

 

[bioguy]

I'm running this old school saty that a couple of MI heads have held closely for the past 30 years, she has no name ...and no ceiling to her!

Do they have internet access? Is this the cut Subcool was talking about? lol

I have 2 cuts that came from MI and they both rock. it I think they came from Boston originally.

One is supposed to be Power Skunk (its my favorite Skunk of all time, very roadkill smell and super tasty)

The other is supposed to be Mr Nice (it gets really purple and I don't think Mr Nice does so who knows....it never purpled in hydro but when I put it in soil it gets almost black during flush) Its the most full flavored smoke I've ever had.

I think MI may be one of the best kept secrets in cannabis genetic. I have run 50+ strains, found 6 keeper cuts in 5 years...2 on the same day from MI. IDK how this happened but they have collected some serious fire up there. Whoever is collecting 17 week Sativa's up there is seriously dedicated. Props to that guy!

 

[bioguy]

Took 17+ weeks of 12/12 to finish,

17+ from seed or did it veg too?

 

[symbiote420]

Got a cutting ...was advised by the gifter not to let it get over 10" (25cm) or it would outgrow my room! I put that one in the pics in at 6" - 7" and it ended up 50" (127cm) didn't stop stretching till the end of wk 6

You're right about the Mitten, Alot of peeps doing their thang. I've been making plenty of fire myself that's getting pretty rave reviews ....here we don't care about being the lead singer just as long as we're a part of the band! lol

 

[haulinbass]

If this strain rocks, I'm glad its around and I hope you help spread the love/cut/seeds.

As for unavailable...I don't see any of the people involved in this debate (or Bodhi) stocking it (seeds) but really what I am pointing out is the entire history of cannabis is so convoluted we don't even know where to get the absolute classics (NL, Skunk, Haze etc).

The internet has a tendency to create massive bitch fests that never never end. 20 years from now this could evolve into the new Nevil Shanti Arijan debate. Which is SUCH bullshit.

If its not for sale anymore I could not care less who created it (I'm glad its around and respect the breeders work...don't get me wrong). BUT The best way to give props to a breeder is with your wallet and if I can't buy it, my hands are tied.

Its not sold out of respect to ndnguy, if was gifted to many breeders strictly for breeding and not to be sold itself. Hazeman was giving them away but then decided to sell them they sold out but are still listed on the tude. But they were 100% bred from ndnguys stock.

Why not pm ndnguy lol he is a member here and other places and ask for some might not get a reply or a while tho.

 

[m3shach]

Well i would like to vote for Northern Lights No9 by Sagamartha.

 

[bioguy]

Its not sold out of respect to ndnguy, if was gifted to many breeders strictly for breeding and not to be sold itself. Hazeman was giving them away but then decided to sell them they sold out but are still listed on the tude. But they were 100% bred from ndnguys stock.

Why not pm ndnguy lol he is a member here and other places and ask for some might not get a reply or a while tho.

I should actually apologize to all parties because I am/was confused. Are we talking about G-13/HP or Clusterfunk? As soon as the arguing starts, I stop reading so I'm not even qualified to chime in. Now that I have looked closer I am curious. It was CF that I was saying was unknown by most and unavail. G-13/HP on the other hand...I asked where its at ... so I should not get upset that a debate arose. The truth can't surface without debate.

Either way, thanks for the beta and obeying the wishes of the breeder (maybe see following).

-do you mean contact him for seeds or for the truth-

If ndnguy wants to chime in about the history of CF or soure of the G-13/HP thats great. I just think the source of CF is an entirely different subject. If this is a question people want to know the answer to, why hide it on page 19 of the strongest strain thread. Thats why I recommended someone start a thread for it.

Now, if we are talking about G-13/HP not CF count me in. The source is important to me.

WHY? ...WARNING: I will probably offend someone. If it sold as seed to the masses ..... nobody has the right to horde it. Finding a keeper in a batch of seeds and acting like its yours is wrong! Especially if you have something magnificent that is lost to time. I also think if you have something you don't want others selling...you have a responsibility to keep it in available.

I'm not saying thats what happened in this case but it opens the lines to talk about it some more. I'm just sick of pot growers preaching about their love for the plant and then acting like Monsanto. God forbid someone have the original Chem Dawg and is hiding it while everyone else gets rich selling Sour D OG back crosses.

 

[bioguy]

On a more positive note!

NLD vs. BLD?!?!?!?! IDK you tell me

These 2 leaves came from the same plant! Its an unknown strain (I bought 2 strains from a clinic and they were the same) It could be Razzelberry or Grape Kush or more likely neither. It flowers 9 weeks, produces nug on leaf mutations, has double serrations, sometimes turns a touch of blue or purple and has a candy smell that I think is very typical but good without a hint of earth/spice/hash. If I had to guess (and I shouldn't) I would say its got some blueberry in it. I kinda hate not knowing how authentic my strains are and kinda don't care.

The clear margin overlap on the broad one is 100% natural (not positioned). The other speaks for itself. The bigger leaves are older fan leaves and the thin ones protrude from the nugs.

 

[bioguy]

Well i would like to vote for Northern Lights No9 by Sagamartha.

1 post.

Should I accuse them of working for Sagamartha!
Just a joke...you gotta start somewhere...thanks for joining us!

Thats the first time anything from them has been mentioned. I would have guessed that to be an Afghan dom plant but http://en.**********.eu/strain-info/Northern_Lights_Nr9/Sagarmatha_Seeds/ says its a NL x WW x Durban. All three are on the original list. I named this thread too simply. I am interested in strains that have proven their mustard in cross after cross and are CONSISTENTLY potent ancestors. This looks like a good addition and I love anything Durban so you got my attention.

 

[symbiote420]

I should actually apologize to all parties because I am/was confused. Are we talking about G-13/HP or Clusterfunk? As soon as the arguing starts, I stop reading so I'm not even qualified to chime in. Now that I have looked closer I am curious. It was CF that I was saying was unknown by most and unavail. G-13/HP on the other hand...I asked where its at ... so I should not get upset that a debate arose. The truth can't surface without debate.

Either way, thanks for the beta and obeying the wishes of the breeder (maybe see following).

-do you mean contact him for seeds or for the truth-

If ndnguy wants to chime in about the history of CF or soure of the G-13/HP thats great. I just think the source of CF is an entirely different subject. If this is a question people want to know the answer to, why hide it on page 19 of the strongest strain thread. Thats why I recommended someone start a thread for it.

Now, if we are talking about G-13/HP not CF count me in. The source is important to me.

WHY? ...WARNING: I will probably offend someone. If it sold as seed to the masses ..... nobody has the right to horde it. Finding a keeper in a batch of seeds and acting like its yours is wrong! Especially if you have something magnificent that is lost to time. I also think if you have something you don't want others selling...you have a responsibility to keep it in available.

I'm not saying thats what happened in this case but it opens the lines to talk about it some more. I'm just sick of pot growers preaching about their love for the plant and then acting like Monsanto.

Ndn doesn't want it horded, he wants it breed and given away for free ...not sold for profit!! Ghash shines in it's hybrids and big bro doesn't mind what peeps do with them!