Top NSA Official: “We Are Now In A Police State”

[river rat01]

http://investmentwatchblog.com/former-top-nsa-official-we-are-now-in-a-police-state/
well as we all know, they have been spying on us all for years.
they know who every grower is,(if you have ever looked at growing equipment, seeds, or looked up nute def on line, then your being watched) every tax evader, every kiddy porn watcher, every druggie, jaywalker, anti government protester ect.
and i've always wondered, so why aren't they busting us?

well now they are.
they've just been busy categorizing us.

now they cant legally use this info against us because it was obtained illegally, illegally??? so why are we letting them do something illegally????

so what they are doing is justifying this info like hiring paid informants to say, yeah i saw his grow room, or i smelled skunky smells outside his house, or he told me he's fucking the IRS.

we are ALL criminals to them, and they are coming.
so what are we going to do about this?

 

[rasputin]

In other news, water is wet.

This has been going on for over 10 years. The real tragedy is that people have been asleep while it was going on right in front of them. And the people who tried pointing it out were looked at as crazy conspiracy theorists or straight up looney tunes. Marginalized, arrested, or just laughed at and ignored.

Why would anyone listen?

There's football games and America's Got Talent to watch. You know, important things.

 

[river rat01]

yep, people wont care even when they see their friends and neighbors being dragged off, saying, at least it isint me.

i'm predicting that growing has come to an end, at least indoors.
guerrilla growing is going to be the only way to not get caught now.

oh wait, i forgot about the drones, well never mind thats out too.

 

[johnnybravo]

Wrap your com in an envelope. Give yourself a reasonable expectation of privacy. Encrypt everything.

 

[The OrigF/clred]

This has actually been going on since at least the late 70s - there was a segment on 60 Minutes way way back in the late 80s, maybe early 90s, interviewing a canadian ex-analyst who had worked at the Echelon station somewhere in the north. It had just come out that NSA had built a series of communication monitoring stations around the world (Europe, UK, Australia, Canada) called Echelon. Guy went onto say he'd heard conversations of one senior US senator talking to his family.

IIRC, said he quit cause he felt it was illegal, but that they recorded every conversation and if "key" words were heard in the conversation, their system would automatically log that conversation as possible anarchist/terrorist. He said the problem was the system's mistakes leaving folks having clouds over them that they weren't even aware of. He offered the example of a housewife might be talking to a friend over the phone and telling her that her son had "bombed" in the school play. Bingo, there's that anarchist's word "bomb" and she would be forever categorized in a nebullous group of "possible anarchist".

Back to the mention of the guy hearing a US Senator's phone conversation - think about what an administration could do to influence votes in the House or Senate when they've got private info on those voting. Then ask yourself if that's ever actually played out - i know there have been laws passed that i've scratched my head over. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

[supermanlives]

fuck em. indoor growing will always exist just like outdoor growing will. actually with drones and such indoor might be the better choice. they cant round us all up yet. if stuff gets out of control ,then I too will adapt an get out of control.i am not some peacefully hippy stoner, I am the exact opposite

 

[Bongstar420]

In other news, water is wet.

This has been going on for over 10 years. The real tragedy is that people have been asleep while it was going on right in front of them. And the people who tried pointing it out were looked at as crazy conspiracy theorists or straight up looney tunes. Marginalized, arrested, or just laughed at and ignored.

Why would anyone listen?

There's football games and America's Got Talent to watch. You know, important things.

Ehem...since the beginning of civilization. There is nothing new under the Sun here

 

[bentom187]

Least we forget what happened here, they surrendered willingly.

Police State Too Much? Send in a Marine!
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"There is always free cheese in a mouse trap."

 

[river rat01]

yep its time to arm ourselves and start fighting back.

peaceful revolutions don't work except to get our ass' s kicked.

its time to put the hurt on them.

 

[supermanlives]

I have always wanted an exploding front porch/doorstep lol. I always wanted to see a sick med patient fight back scarface style. but I am a bit crazy. you cant win but you can take a few with ya.DAVESNOTHERE

 

[unclefishstick]

yep its time to arm ourselves and start fighting back.

peaceful revolutions don't work except to get our ass' s kicked.

its time to put the hurt on them.

wolverines!

 

[Stoner4Life]

yep its time to arm ourselves and start fighting back.

peaceful revolutions don't work except to get our ass' s kicked.

its time to put the hurt on them.

NOW!!!


you're being watched.......

 

[LEF]

well, if you go with what southflorida says, it's all in your mind really

nothing exists

it's all consciousness

 

[The OrigF/clred]

NOW!!!


you're being watched.......

and you think the nsa computer is going to differentiate that that was a quote from someone else's post - ......... but on second thought, don't worry about it, they were already watching both of us!!

 

[RetroGrow]

NSA, if you're listening, a big Fuck You and I hope you all die!

 

[Tudo]

Least we forget what happened here, they surrendered willingly.

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Police State Too Much? Send in a Marine!
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"There is always free cheese in a mouse trap."

When you systematically deny peoples around the world their freedom it will absolutely come right back to you and if the people are ignorant about what they have supported in so many countries around the world they will be equally ignorant about what's happening here and now.

 

[bentom187]

Yup i'm in complete agreement.
I'm not surprised personally about what goes on ,just how people are willingly ignorant they are because it seems like a big deal afterward ,you would think people would want to find out what causes this violence.
I'm not so sure its our freedom they are envious of since there is none or, women wearing jeans or voting , its probably murdering their families in drone strikes or invading their country trying to spread mob rule ooops I meant democracy.
I know im preaching to the choir,but for those who have not caught on yet my opinion is there for consideration.

 

[kushaholic420]

Wow this thread looks like it was just pulled off alex jones channel on youtube or straight from info wars. But yeah a judge did rule it's legal for nsa to spy on us because we volintairly give people info to phone company's and others but the stupid judge didn't get the fact that we consent to give information to some people but that dosent mean we give up are 4th amendment rights. But this will go to the supreme court but let keep are fingers crossed.

 

[Perpetual Nooch]

Yep, they've been tracking phone and electronic communications for at least the past 20 years. This is a fact. Also a fact; they couldn't stop 9/11.

So, either their tracking isn't that all encompassing and terrorists can evade it, or there remains questions about 9/11. Your choice what to believe.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

90% of ALL phone usage data (billing details) went through Amdocs at one point. I don't know if it still does. But Amdocs is an Israeli/CIA company.