MMPR- meet the players

[Hydrosun]

99% of Canadians on this site have made money from their license. 90% of the licenses out there are selling all of their weed. The majority of the users are abusing the system. Are you trying to tell us 100's and 100's of DG's out there that spent thousands to hundreds of thousands in their own money, grow for people out of the goodness of their heart?

The gov caught on these docs and they let the users hang themselves by giving out the licenses, hell some people got theirs in two weeks after sending in the paper work. Once the stats and word got out that majority of the licenses are being abused, the gov had amo to force a change.

Now the 90% fucked over the 10% that really needed the system.

Fuck that piece of shit prohibitionist clown like thinking.

Can a slave abuse the MASTER's RULES or SYSTEM? FUCK NO.

CAN YOU PLEASE enlighten me as to how anyone any where on the planet growing cannabis ABUSES or HARMS you and I?

How did anyone fuck anyone over by cultivating a plant, on their own property, with their own funding?

Are 10% of the people under your thinking entitled to eat at the expense of others, and those 90% you hate should starve and slave away for your chosen few?

Quit being a fucking tool for our oppressors. Your way of thinking is an abuse of free men and women everywhere.

 

[Buds Bundy]

Fuck that piece of shit prohibitionist clown like thinking.

Can a slave abuse the MASTER's RULES or SYSTEM? FUCK NO.

CAN YOU PLEASE enlighten me as to how anyone any where on the planet growing cannabis ABUSES or HARMS you and I?

How did anyone fuck anyone over by cultivating a plant, on their own property, with their own funding?

Are 10% of the people under your thinking entitled to eat at the expense of others, and those 90% you hate should starve and slave away for your chosen few?

Quit being a fucking tool for our oppressors. Your way of thinking is an abuse of free men and women everywhere.

Hey its not my problem the system just got a bitch slap from being abused. Again you are not allowed to make $$$ from your license, like it or not that the reality of it.

 

[Hydrosun]

A slave isn't allowed to make money from his labor. Does that make the system moral or ethical?

I asked you to explain to me how anyone growing cannabis on their own property has ABUSED you, me, or sick old ladies?

It is all of our problems when free people are treated as slaves. Again what is the DAMAGE from your postulated abuse?

 

[Buds Bundy]

I asked you to explain to me how anyone growing cannabis on their own property has ABUSED you, me, or sick old ladies?

In order to be able to grow legally in your house agreed not to sell the weed you grew and dispose of the extra above your allotted amount. Snice you and tons of others didn't do that you damaged the system and for a lot of people this means a whole lot of not being able to afford or legally grow their meds anymore.

 

[Hydrosun]

I didn't ask you about LEGALLY, I asked you how ANYONE ANYWHERE in the world growing on their own land caused you DAMAGE.

You are speaking the immoral language of slave masters and you can't even back up your hate with TRIVIAL damage to sick old ladies.

I've NEVER agreed to follow an immoral law. And just because a SLAVE may tell the master he agrees to slave away in order to not be whipped, that does not mean the SLAVE is bound to an IMMORAL contract.

 

[donaldflower]

Up to about 3 years ago or so most people had a hard time getting a license with out paying $1000 per gram to certain doctors or convincing their doctor to sign the paper work for a few grams.

Then one day a few doctors (pain management they called it) decided to cash and sign paper work for people left and right as long as you had some kind of paper work from an xray/cat/mri showing an injury. The charged around $500-1500 for the signature.

As the word got out about these doctors all of a sudden everyone jumped on the wagon and you started to see monster grows going up left and right.

They don't show the 2013 stats or other years which is carp but here they are for 2012 http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/stat/index-eng.php and you can see archive.org for the later years https://web.archive.org/web/2008102.../dhp-mps/marihuana/stat/_2008/feb-fev-eng.php

I still don't see what that has to do with saying these patients will be 'gone'. They are just rolled over into the new MMPR, aren't they?

 

[Buds Bundy]

I still don't see what that has to do with saying these patients will be 'gone'. They are just rolled over into the new MMPR, aren't they?

The current MMAR license numbers are wrong when it comes to who really needs the license for medicine vs who is using if strictly to produce and sell the weed.

When April 1st comes and licenses do end (unless for some freaky reason they are extended) there will be patient but the numbers will be reduced by probably 80%+ I would say the numbers will be close to 2009 levels.

Now here's the thing with the new program say you are really using 10 grams a day hell even 5 grams per day, are you going to afford (5 grams) $900-1800/ (10 grams) $1800-3600 per month in medicine where before after the initial cost of the equipment it would cost you $200 or so to grow a whole LB?

Now what happens if the CPL's go under because of not enough business?

 

[Dr. Buddington]

I still don't see what that has to do with saying these patients will be 'gone'. They are just rolled over into the new MMPR, aren't they?

You can send in your Authorization to Possess, even once its expired on March 31st, to a LP as your registration document

 

[Hydrosun]

So now some people should be allowed cannabis and others don't NEED it in your opinion, so if they chose to cultivate cannabis without YOUR label of NEED then they should be throw into cages?

You still haven't explained how ANYONE growing cannabis has ABUSED or caused HARM to sick old ladies.

Every thing the NAZIs did was legal. I am glad you are such a big fan of rules, morality be damned. Hopefully you are a school teacher so the next generation will be as enlightened as you.

 

[donaldflower]

The current MMAR license numbers are wrong when it comes to who really needs the license for medicine vs who is using if strictly to produce and sell the weed.

When April 1st comes and licenses do end (unless for some freaky reason they are extended) there will be patient but the numbers will be reduced by probably 80%+ I would say the numbers will be close to 2009 levels.

I think you are confusing those who are approved to use cannabis and those who are approved to grow it. Those approved to use it will continue to be allowed to do so under MMPR. The only ones phased out are growers. The ony licensees that will end will be for growers, not consumers.

80%? Not a chance. In fact, since it will be even easier to be approved under MMPR, the amount of patients will likely increase significantly, not decrease.

 

[donaldflower]

You can send in your Authorization to Possess, even once its expired on March 31st, to a LP as your registration document

Exactly. This is why I don't understand the claim that it will decrease by "80%". Why would people opt out? That's an odd assumption.It will actually be easier to access.

 

[Buds Bundy]

I think you are confusing those who are approved to use cannabis and those who are approved to grow it. Those approved to use it will continue to be allowed to do so under MMPR. The only ones phased out are growers. The ony licensees that will end will be for growers, not consumers.

80%? Not a chance. In fact, since it will be even easier to be approved under MMPR, the amount of patients will likely increase significantly, not decrease.

Those who currently grow are also have a possession license how else could they be able to grow themselves and handle the weed.

80%? Not a chance. In fact, since it will be even easier to be approved under MMPR, the amount of patients will likely increase significantly, not decrease.

You assume doctors will sing it more readily, people will want to be high while taking their meds or that weed works for everyone or even if they will want to go though the steps to get it.

 

[Hydrosun]

Those who currently grow are also have a possession license how else could they be able to grow themselves and handle the weed.



You assume doctors will sing it more readily, people will want to be high while taking their meds or that weed works for everyone or even if they will want to go though the steps to get it.

I know lots of people without licenses from your precious system and guess what I've watched them grow, handle, consume, and posses cannabis. I'll have to ask them HOW they could have done that????

Why won't you address my questions regarding your IMMORAL thinking?

 

[Buds Bundy]

Exactly. This is why I don't understand the claim that it will decrease by "80%". Why would people opt out? That's an odd assumption.It will actually be easier to access.

Authorization to posses numbers does not = instant 30,00K+ customers who will all of a sudden buy on a regular basis. That's market speculation from people who are going to try to make money from these patients. They have no personal interest to inflate numbers, lol.

I sure won't as I will either run a few lights giving me all the weed I need for pennies on the dollar vs going though all the mail order steps or I'll get it from any of my friends who grow or deal.

 

[Hydrosun]

So you are willing to buy from friends who grow, even though your morality tells you it is wrong for your friend to sell?

So I guess you just want other peoples friends thrown into cages. Hypocrisy is golden, huh Mr. Bundy.

 

[Pangea]

What is your mmpr company?

Do not have one yet, you'll hear about us in the spring.

Do you have one?

Buds Bundy:
The current MMAR license numbers are wrong when it comes to who really needs the license for medicine vs who is using if strictly to produce and sell the weed.

Health Canada since the inception of the program has stated that they estimate 500K+ Canadians whom gain medical benefit from cannabis use.

Do you not think that there would be more people seeking legal means to use cannabis for medical purposes if there was not such a high level of difficulty and/or financial burden to access the system.

Ive never heard of someone being able to use cannabis and not have the cannabinoids interact with their system in a beneficial way, regardless of perception or intent all users are medicating, imo.

 

[Buds Bundy]

So you are willing to buy from friends who grow, even though your morality tells you it is wrong for your friend to sell?

So I guess you just want other peoples friends thrown into cages. Hypocrisy is golden, huh Mr. Bundy.

I don't give a flying fuck if you're licensed and sell your weed or if anyone else does, makes no difference to me even if it kills the system but the system is dead because of the abuse of the licenses.

Did you see how fast the licenses were approved but the gov in the last 1.5 years? They knew if they give you enough rope you'd hang yourself with it (ie most growing for profit) and then they can used those stats as an excuse to get rid of the system. Having said that there's plenty of blame to go around from the Gov not cracking down on abuse to people taking the gov to court for more and more leeway on the licenses to the point where it overflowed and illegal profiteering kicked in.

 

[Buds Bundy]

Ive never heard of someone being able to use cannabis and not have the cannabinoids interact with their system in a beneficial way, regardless of perception or intent all users are medicating, imo.

I know plenty of people who smoked but did nothing for their pain and if it did they were so stoned it was useless to them as they couldn't function properly.

I'm one of those people and in order to get rid of my disk pain I have to get fucked up, at that point I might as well deal with the pain since I can't function properly especially eating it or using canna caps. Just like my wife who can take several T3's and they do nothing for pain removal on the other hand they worked great for me and kept me from going insane several years back when I had my first crippling herniated disk attack. On top of that heavy dosage of weed that kiled my back pain inceases my sleep apnea by quite a bit.

 

[vapor]

I am pretty high most of everyday and i still get all the things i need to do done,for year and years, from wrenching on my wheels to dealing with my plants, i have 3 herniated disc's damaged nerves etc, my legs and lower back are on crazy time. I never sit there and go i am to fuckt up to do something, unless my body physically will not allow{happens a couple weeks at a time usually}. Being fuct up that's a state of mind that diminishes with experience and consistency{with many different meds} so that's just not a valid excuse.
Even if folks are not "feeling" the medical effects does not mean that the body is not benefiting from cannabis. We are just starting to understand this gift...

 

[Green Supreme]

Go Buds, Go Buds, go Buds. LOL. Peace GS