The Official Hempy Bucket Thread

[Dr.RedWhite]

A pump isn't all that complicated. Simplicity could also make things more complicated via the more times a week you have to visit your plants. A res and a timer/pump combo can ease what you have to do every time you check your plants down to tying them back from the lights for several weeks. You have to water anyway and in cramped spaces an automated setup makes things easier and simpler. My question really was to find what hydro category this system is.

 

[MaynardG_Krebs]

A pump isn't all that complicated. Simplicity could also make things more complicated via the more times a week you have to visit your plants. A res and a timer/pump combo can ease what you have to do every time you check your plants down to tying them back from the lights for several weeks. You have to water anyway and in cramped spaces an automated setup makes things easier and simpler. My question really was to find what hydro category this system is.

Do it! Let us know how it works! However, you'll get people coming out of the woodwork telling you blah blah blah.. it's not the dalihempy way.. the way HE invented it.. Thou shalt not modify this method and still call it a Hempy pot.. it will cause major problems.. even with some who don't even grow..

mgk

 

[dansbuds]

Hey DR. automated hempys is fine ... i do it myself . but recirculating it like you mentioned could cause all kinds of problems with PH fluctuations , which is why you don't see recirc coco grows ..... if your doing coco hempys that is . i'm not sure how recirc would work with peri/verm .

but yeah ... auto fed hempys work great !!! its just the runoff you have to contend with & that can be dailed in with the feed times so that you get very little runoff & don't have to clean it up after every feed . i had to empty these trays with a shop vac ... maybe every 3 days or so & there was maybe a 1/2" of water in them when i did .

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[MaynardG_Krebs]

Hey DR. automated hempys is fine ... i do it myself . but recirculating it like you mentioned could cause all kinds of problems with PH fluctuations , which is why you don't see recirc coco grows ..... if your doing coco hempys that is . i'm not sure how recirc would work with peri/verm .

but yeah ... auto fed hempys work great !!! its just the runoff you have to contend with & that can be dailed in with the feed times so that you get very little runoff & don't have to clean it up after every feed . i had to empty these trays with a shop vac ... maybe every 3 days or so & there was maybe a 1/2" of water in them when i did .

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I'm planning on setting up an irrigation system for my hempys, but I'll officially stop calling them that then as so not to disturb the inner sanctum of the Hempy purists. Don't want to upset the pretenders..

mgk

 

[Dr.RedWhite]

How about topfed recirculating buckets with a hole and a res! That way I can safely undo myself of any Hempy liability issues. I use a perlite, peat moss, floorsweep mix at parts of 3-1-1. The floorsweep and the peatmoss help stabilize PH issues. The floor sweep is the Montromillonite clay variety.

 

[justanotherbozo]

...yeah, there is only one fool anal enough to get downright uppity if you modify the hempy tech even a little and that ain't me, lol.

...with the caveat that for me what makes it a hempy is that it is passive, once you add pumps it's no longer passive.

...frankly though, if i were wanting to automate i'd dispense with the hempy pot's all together and just go coco DTW.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=241341A few things that I've learned about growing in coco with a drip systm DTW

...i know there are several guys who have also married the hempy tech with Blumats and seem to be doing quite well, ...the silver hawaiin comes to mind.

peace, bozo

 

[dansbuds]

I'm planning on setting up an irrigation system for my hempys, but I'll officially stop calling them that then as so not to disturb the inner sanctum of the Hempy purists. Don't want to upset the pretenders..

lol .... that was me at one time too , but i just said fukit ... why argue about it .

 

[dansbuds]

How about topfed recirculating buckets with a hole and a res! That way I can safely undo myself of any Hempy liability issues. I use a perlite, peat moss, floorsweep mix at parts of 3-1-1. The floorsweep and the peatmoss help stabilize PH issues. The floor sweep is the Montromillonite clay variety.

hell ..... give it a try & see what happens .

 

[dansbuds]

...with the caveat that for me what makes it a hempy is that it is passive, once you add pumps it's no longer passive.

...frankly though, if i were wanting to automate i'd dispense with the hempy pot's all together and just go coco DTW.

I actually do both .... & i like the hempys better for vegging . less transplanting , the veg seem faster cuz of the feeding off the rez unlike the DTW pots . & i use a wider bucket with the hempys so it makes it easier for tying them down & training them .
but in flower .... i see no great difference with the 2 methods . the plants react the same .
i do smaller plants in DTW & the bigger ones that get some veg time .... i do in hempys .

 

[Trichome_Jungle]

Isn't the "hempy" method essentially an internal resevoir bucket? They have been around for a looong time. He just introduced it back to the community after it being forgotten about. It was mentioned that high times did an article on them 20+ years ago. I'm not discrediting him for his research, but I find myself asking why am I naming this after him?

 

[Trichome_Jungle]

Not saying anything negative about him or the method. But I kind of feel like credit isn't truely being givin where its deserved. Maybe I'm wrong?

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Music Buzz

I saw your conversation with GM1 .
Pay him no heed . A cpl of years ago he was showing pix of other peoples plants and claiming them as his own . Not to mention trying to OUT PEOPLE on that forum .
No integrity ,very few grow skills . And a protected species over there . He is a part of the reason the site went from 100s of visitors a day to single figures ...

Flushing is a personal choice . If you use an EC of 1.2 or lower forget about flush . If you try and force feed the plants like a goose being fattened for pate . Then yes a flush with a 1/2 -1/3 strength of your regular nute for 2 weeks . The length of cure can effect the high and the flavour .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[justanotherbozo]

G`day Music Buzz

I saw your conversation with GM1 .
Pay him no heed . A cpl of years ago he was showing pix of other peoples plants and claiming them as his own . Not to mention trying to OUT PEOPLE on that forum .
No integrity ,very few grow skills . And a protected species over there . He is a part of the reason the site went from 100s of visitors a day to single figures ...

Flushing is a personal choice . If you use an EC of 1.2 or lower forget about flush . If you try and force feed the plants like a goose being fattened for pate . Then yes a flush with a 1/2 -1/3 strength of your regular nute for 2 weeks . The length of cure can effect the high and the flavour .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

...i agree 100% with this, i was there to watch that too and it got pretty ugly at the end.

btw, gm1 is known here as 'grassott's dad', in case you didn't know.

peace, bozo

 

[grassott's dad]

Isn't the "hempy" method essentially an internal resevoir bucket? They have been around for a looong time. He just introduced it back to the community after it being forgotten about. It was mentioned that high times did an article on them 20+ years ago. I'm not discrediting him for his research, but I find myself asking why am I naming this after him?

HT did an article 20+ years ago and HT referred to them as the hempy bucket. Hempy invented the bucket 30+years ago, so its good that HT did articles AFTER the success of the hempy bucket. You say that hempy re-introduced it thus discrediting him. Can you back up what you're saying? Or are you just following other people's opinions such as Maynard_Got_Krabs?

I'm planning on setting up an irrigation system for my hempys, but I'll officially stop calling them that then as so not to disturb the inner sanctum of the Hempy purists. Don't want to upset the pretenders..

mgk

Maybe you should plan on starting your own thread and call your plants whatever you like instead of bitchin in hempy's thread and making cheap shot digs at me. Your bs is getting ever so boring now mate?

...btw, gm1 is known here as 'grassott's dad', in case you didn't know.

peace, bozo

No I'm not. Why lie? Why start trouble in hempy's thread?

Ain't you the guy called SOGay who trolled and spammed hempy's thread over there along with that other piss poor bottle grower above?

Guys such as you and elmer need to get a life! Take your shitty bottles and start your own threads and post all the cats and silly naked boy pics over there. Please don't ruin this thread any further.

 

[grassott's dad]

I've been running Hempy buckets for about nine months now, doing both hos perlite/vermiculite, and coco with perlite res, and I am so impressed that my yields are two to three times what I've grown in soil. I'm using the Maxibloom KISS feed of every other day. I've read so many conflicting ideas on whether flushing is necessary if you lightly feed throughout the grow, to whether it's necessary to ph tap water during final flush, etc. Does anyone here know how Hempy does his actual harvest flushing? Thanks.

Hi. I too have seen your convo with GM1 and I wouldn't pay him no mind. I know him personally and I assure you he means no harm. He's just got too much passion for the plant imo. To answer your question, this is how hempy flushes/feeds.

Hempy flushes his plants 2 weeks before the chop with just plain tap water until run off. Whether he ph's the "flush" water I don't know, but I don't think so.

He does NOT ph when feeding. He mixes his canna nutes at full strength (following the instructions on the bottle) with tap water and it lands on 6.2 which is within the range and it's what he's happy with. He doesn't use any other additives. He will feed a lower strength if/when the plants tell him to (strain dependent). He learns from his plants.

Hempy don't post anymore because he got fed up of people trolling him on the forums. If he was still posting I'm sure he'd tell you to learn from the plants too.

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Sock Puppet / GM1 / Grassot`s Dad

This quote pretty much sums it up for me .

*Disclaimer* None of the pics I post are mine. I post for entertainment purposes only. Don't ask me anything because I know nothing about weed.

I give Hempy his dues . He shared an effective method with the canna community .
Hempy buckets have allowed a lot of people with little or no exp grow good herb .
The bitchiness surrounding the bucket and its origins only wastes energy and adds to negativity .So many dumb arguments on the forums come back again and again like fckin Ground Hog Day .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[dansbuds]

He does NOT ph when feeding. He mixes his canna nutes at full strength (following the instructions on the bottle) with tap water and it lands on 6.2 which is within the range and it's what he's happy with. He doesn't use any other additives. He will feed a lower strength if/when the plants tell him to (strain dependent). He learns from his plan

posted by Dailahempy

The only thing wrong with it is you need to hand water and you get run off from the drain hole thats it and as far as checking your PH well the only time you need to do that is when you mix your nutes i like useing a PH of 6.2 PH .

He does mix his nutes & checks the PH & sets it at 6.2 ..... but thats not a correct PH level for coco or a hydro scenario . a PH of 5.8 is a much better level to start off with as all the nutes are available at that point . yes a ph of 6..0 to 6.2 will be better for a late flower feed because the P is more readily available at that level & K is less available which is great for coco because of the Cation balance & coco having so much K in it in the first place , but its not a proper PH level & really shouldn't be put out there as it is .

 

[grassott's dad]

Hi Dan I hope we can have a mature adult discussion from one hempy bucket grower to another. The info I posted about hempy's flush/feed, is what hempy posted himself on a different forum.

I've seen them charts several times now and I ask myself "can these charts be taken as gospel"?
For example, them charts are saying that hempy's plants never get K coz he uses 6.2ph? But when you look at hempy's plants, do they look like they never get any K?

I doubt that coco has K or any ferts to start with (I may be wrong). I always thought it was inert (no nutes, unlike soil), but when hempy used perl/verm (again, inert) he still used 6.2ph back then.

Them charts are good as rough guidelines but I wouldn't swear by them coz all grow rooms are different, using different mediums etc. Just my 2c

 

[dansbuds]

Hi Dan I hope we can have a mature adult discussion from one hempy bucket grower to another. The info I posted about hempy's flush/feed, is what hempy posted himself on a different forum.


I've seen them charts several times now and I ask myself "can these charts be taken as gospel"?
For example, them charts are saying that hempy's plants never get K coz he uses 6.2ph? But when you look at hempy's plants, do they look like they never get any K?

I doubt that coco has K or any ferts to start with (I may be wrong). I always thought it was inert (no nutes, unlike soil), but when hempy used perl/verm (again, inert) he still used 6.2ph back then.

Them charts are good as rough guidelines but I wouldn't swear by them coz all grow rooms are different, using different mediums etc. Just my 2c

& so was the second quote in my post . it was from the first page of this thread . so either hempy is changing the way he does things or his word shouldn't be taken as gospel .

coco is loaded with potassium (K) & you have to add calcium to complete the balance (cations) .

That chart i put up .... it may not be perfect , but its damn close & has never put my plants in harm as much as a 6.2 PH feed would do to any plant unless its in soil .

not arguing GD .... just trying to get you to see that while hempy may have improved on an age old system of the sub irrigated planter for MMJ useage . he is not the Holy grail of growers that you seem to think he is .
he gives conflicting advice .... i've even seen it in the same threads . you can't take everything the man said as gospel dude . hes a stoner & grower just like us & he makes mistakes & gives some offset advice everynow & then .

You'd be much better off following that chart than you would feeding a hydro based pot/bucket/system than you would going by hempys recomendation !! who knows what his water was like ? etc.... theres to many variables there to say 6.2 PH is gospel & everybody should feed at that . Dig it ???

Dude ... you've known me for awhile now , you know i'm not going to steer you wrong , you've seen my grows .... if i were to feed at Hempys PH levels .... my garden wouldn't look like it does or produce like it does . & i'm not trying to be harsh towards you , but some of the pics you've shown are classic nute lockout do to your PH being out of range .
Take it from somebody thats been through more problems & ups & downs in their garden & has fought to get as close to perfection as any 1 man can do ..... than to take advice from a guy that gives conflicting advice & starts threads & disappears cuz a few people question his methods ...

 

[grassott's dad]

Its all good Dan and I aint arguing with you neither, but I've never said that hempy was perfect and I'll always respect him no matter what. Whether he sets it at 6.2 or it lands on 6.2 is apples n oranges, considering he uses 6.2ph.
When I was growing I used 5.9 btw, same as other grow buddies of mine. I've never said 6.2 was gospel and I've never used 6.2 in my garden. I just said what hempy used in his garden. Know what I mean?