Anti surveillance thread

[supermanlives]

aiming a laser at a flying machine will get ya busted or atleast bring heat your way. theres quite a bit of it going on an they take it seriously. think they passed a law about it not long ago.i heard something about them making it a more serious charge

 

[noyd666]

LOL, MOVE HOUSE AND SEE IF THEY NOTICE.

 

[Space Toker]

I do usually read the responses but sorry if I intend to get back to it later and forget! I several times a day walk around back and forth befuddled trying to figure out why I went into that room or what I was looking for. So forgive me!
If I don't get back to what you said, kick me in the nuts! I did see that last post, and I wondered that, if I would be noticed elsewhere. maybe if I had someone else transport me across international borders hiding under hay in the back of a truck or something like that I would not be noticed! Seriously, I have been to california like 15 years ago, far from home and in a town I knew nothing about and still they seemed to watch me! I go to other towns closer to home that I almost never visit and they seem to watch me. They have seemed to watch me ever since I first started driving like almost 30 years ago!
Driving in wrecks and not quite being a conformist ever, may have had something to do with that but it seems a lot worse lately. These last few days have been insane. Both yesterday and today, I went out as a passenger and ran into more cop cars each day than I usually see in a month! All seeming to be lurking, following, trailing or just happening to be in the right place at the right time before we get there. Today, an unseen chopper circled like 8-10 times in the "near distance", not directly over but close enough and not too far. Finally, 2 dark choppers, looked like military, revealed themselves flying fairly close but high with devices on the side opposite that facing us, and flew away. Then lots of low planes and finally peace. Even my brother, the anti-paranoid one that thinks nothing ever would or could happen no matter what, said what is up with all these circling chopper pieces of shit! Well I will not hide in the corner, fuck them, if they think they have something let them come and look like idiots seeing how wrong they were! It will certainly be disappointing for them if they think I am Whitey Bulger or a kingpin or something!

 

[Space Toker]

I don't get the shorty thing as I have watched few movies in my life but I waffle between wondering if things are really as they seem, as I am sometimes prone to thinking, or if either they are just harassing me or if there is some innocuous explanation. I tend to now think I am in a bad area where military and state cops train, but that does not explain the funny cop activity everywhere else I go. All I know is they seem to be taking me way too seriously and I almost find that amusing!

 

[noyd666]

I feel for ya bro, a real tragedy. now how about joining the police force? that way you could go with them on there forays over your property an sorta let em know that place is ok. they also get free lunches and smokes I HEAR. LUCK BRO.

 

[Space Toker]

ok I guess that was a joke so I'll assume it was meant in a good-natured way.
Well, yesterday I think it was a state cop followed us, and stared us down as we turned off and then when we resumed our course he was nowhere to be seen. After relative peace for the most part, the "army medic" or "red cross" chopper was back just before 4 and another unknown chopper taking almost the same path just before 6. Just keeping track.
peace

 

[supermanlives]

if they wanted ya you would already be done. I suggest doubling your indiga intake and have a mj cookie for breakfast. open curtains sit on couch and pack a bong while awaiting their arrival . leave door unlocked

 

[Stoner4Life]

a lot of theories have come & gone here Space Toker, here's another as you seem to be getting eye fucked around town by leo lately. Do you bear a striking resemblance to Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson or Ted Kaczynski???

 

[supermanlives]

I was told I looked like manson once,but I was also told I look like jesus once go figure

 

[Space Toker]

well I don't think so although Hitler would be the closest (but not too close) match look wise!
I just think it is harassment but who knows? There was some kind of activity today but not too much and could see it due to the fog but it is not like I am worried, just aware!

 

[Space Toker]

if they wanted ya you would already be done.

this I understood, the rest a joke I didn't get like most.
yes, I stepped back and analyzed the situation, and concluded the same, that they would not be this obvious, and after all this time if they had something they would have already been here. Still, even today as I just go out locally and a cop passes me and on the way home an "official" of a neighboring town is crawling in front of me and then pulls in a driveway and turns around after I pass, I don't know for absolutely certain. I do not think things are as they seem on either end of the spectrum. So that leaves me where I started, comfortably confused and just slightly concerned not worried or panicked.

 

[Space Toker]

I was told I looked like manson once,but I was also told I look like jesus once go figure

I wish I looked like that! Lucky you!

 

[supermanlives]

theres a point where you got to say fuck it bro. take all precautions and keep security tight and say fuck it. keep alert but not paranoid. being really high on indiga your either so high you forget or your raiding the fridge.you aint growing large ,your a small fish and unless you screw up your likely safe.i have had choppers lighting up my pad and there was weed in back,so I know about choppers. it was a naked guy running around my street that one time lol god damn tweekers. my post basically hinted that you need to learn to chill and relax. save the paranoia for jail lol

 

[Tudo]

As the rest of the world — the US public included — reels from ongoing revelations that the NSA has infiltrated like a virus into the most private corners of our lives, the US Intelligence-Industrial-Complex presses on with a total absence of self-reflection.
Entrepreneur and privacy hero Kim Dotcom points out that the latest spy satellite launched yesterday by the megabillion dollar National Reconnaissance Office carries with it a kind of extended middle finger to the entire world.
NROL-39, as the mission is affectionately called, features as its logo an angry octopus whose tentacles are extending over the globe. Its slogan: “Nothing is beyond our reach.”
Nothing. Total surveillance. Such arrogance seems foolhardy, terrifying, and dangerous. And, of course, totalitarian.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/us-spies-nothing-is-beyond-our-reach/

 

[BrnCow]

Hell, after watching 5 seasons of Breaking Bad, we are all a little paranoid I suspect. And looking like Adolf Jesus Manson doesn't help either. Maybe you might lay off smoking for a while or scale it way back. Set up a hidden camera with night vision or a game camera at the end of the drive and take pics of every car that passes. Then you can compare times and dates and who's in them. My old friends used to say that as long as the marked cars were driving bu things were cool but when the unmarked started coming by regularly you had a week or less...Good Luck...Buy yourself a new Xmas present - a big remote control helicopter - but be careful. A person cut his own head off in a park with his own copter a few weeks ago...

 

[supermanlives]

death by remote helicopter. added to my list. thanks never thought of that before. lol. I love that show 1000 ways to die

 

[Space Toker]

well you are are great and I truly mean that from... well whatever suffices for a driving force these days... a few aircraft but nothing alarming lately. A chopper was in the air tonight, Christmas of all things, but I think it must have been a med chopper with what we all eat over the holidays and if it wasn't, they got to be paying those guys triple time and I don't think that is sustainable. Anyway, far off and never got closer. remote chopper? well I thought what is to stop some neighbor acting alone or otherwise from flying a toy aircraft with cameras for their own nosiness or to cooperate with authorities? and I heard about all kinds of drones including ones made to look like insects or hummingbirds, if even 10 percent of that is true it is scary but like the rampaging redneck says (I am glad I inspired you! ) you have at some point say fuck it, and I have already done that, just expressing observations but not leading anyone on. I used to worry when I am busy that this or that noise I hear is someone at the door or some aircraft or the worst unfolding but now I say fuck it, I will do what I love and not worry so much and let the chips fall where they may!

 

[Tudo]

 

[supermanlives]

happy holdays man. I went through my paranoid phase but got over it in the beginning long ago. don't mean let your guard down or not check out noises or follow your gut feelings.your a small fish and unless you fuck up your most likely safe. I sure hope they really aint bored and checking you out lol. you didn't bone a cops daughter did ya?

 

[Space Toker]

HAHAHA no nothing like that!
Although it is very possible they think I am trying to do something I am not. The vehicle activity has been a little scetchy at night (vehicles that poke real slow down the road and turn around just after passing an intersection, vehicles that may be circling the block or sitting on the side of the road then suddenly take off), plane activity low to normal besides the last few days being a little much around dinnertime, and choppers only seen a few since my last visit to this thread (so almost non-existent and mostly distant).

However, there have been other things that seem quite odd. Like cop cruisers always just happening to have business in the area I am going to or crossing my path numerous times whenever I go out and pulling out and following for a while at least twice during my trip. I went to my pharmacy trying to correct an insurance mixup (free state insurance, turns out they were missing one digit in the number they entered and all is fine now except still some crap with one pill). A local cop pulled out behind me and pulled off to go back to their station. Convenient that he just happened to do this as I go by, but no biggie. Then in the town where the pharmacy was at, my radar detector was going nuts and I didn't see anything. It is a busier town but this was still a little odd. I was followed briefly again, either to or from the pharmacy, not sure which now.

So ok, I go into the pharmacy and they tell me there is nothing they can do unless I pay an outrageous cash amount. I explained I was without my meds for days due to this mixup and was feeling really weird with chest pains and my arms and legs were stiffening up and getting painful tingly cramps while I was standing there. They didn't care, they said they can't just give me pills even though they did exactly that once (a 5 day supply). I was there for a long time trying to reach the insurance hotline or whatever it's called but was on hold forever and had to finally give up (it was at least 2 hours from when I left home that I exited the pharmacy). They finally agreed to give me a 1 day supply and took forever to get that ready. Meanwhile, not long after I got there, a state police comes to the pharmacy counter, waits in line, talks to someone and was not watching to see what happened there but then they left. I hadn't eaten in like 8 hours so I ate out and went home.

The weather was bad, and I was driving my brother's truck which I am still not too familiar with (I seldom go out and when I do and he can't drive me, I use the truck). By then it was dark, and I noticed after getting out of well-lit areas that I had no headlights! I get out and find I do, but they are parker lights only. Someone suggested I go home with the hazard lights on so I did, 5 plus miles in near darkness and through a center of town. I get home without incident and when my brother gets home, I tell him and he goes and flicks a switch and turns a dial and they work! Apparently, when he uses the plow lights, he flicks the switch the other way and it turns off the regular lights. Oh great I feel like a damned fool yet again!

OK so today I have an appointment there just happens to be some bucket truck repairing some wire and a cop directing traffic practically right in front of the medical office. He watches as I pass and park, then just happens to get in his cruiser as I step out (because it's cold and a lull in traffic, or to radio something in?). I go in and the NP is all overly phony gushy nice and overly inquisitive (as she has been the last few times after being cold all the time since the start of my visits to her). It had always been boring and uneventful here but the last few visits have been strange indeed. A couple visits ago, the woman on the phone was irritated while talking about someone who inquired about medical pot and said "this is not a pain management center!!!". I believe that was the time the NP asked me about my anxiety/depressiveness and job/personal financial situation (which she never did before), and put me on a higher dose of prozac and prescribed some antibiotic and allergy med when I complained of difficulty swallowing which she blamed on my sinuses. When I went to the pharmacy to fill that allergy med, I had to sign some DEA paper saying I would not use it to make meth or something!

Back to today. She asks about some hobby I supposedly brought up on a previous visit (and I did no such thing) and I said "well, I like to garden and raise flowers in a greenhouse". And she says "oh that's very interesting, I never knew that side of you! Very nice! I'll put that in your record, that you like to grow things!" Last time, she put in the record that I live with my brother and have financial difficulties that make me more depressed. OK so as soon as she said that, I am like "oh God what was I thinking?"
I get done the appointment and that same grumpy nurse from before is on the phone talking to someone about getting a call from the state Narcotics division! (on the door as you walk in, it says they do not give out narcotics nor have any on the premises) So you can imagine, from all that, I think they are heavily investigating me and have the NP asking questions and have a tracking device on the truck! Or trying to bait me into revealing something here!
Probably just coincidences, but when they keep happening again and again and yet again in the same day on a fairly regular basis, can you blame me for wondering out loud? Now if they really were investigating, would they be so incredibly obvious? Probably not so its probably nothing. Anyway I already feel better talking about it, and in a few hours will probably all dissipate and I will be relaxed again. thanks for listening!