First Timer: 12 Light Coco Multi-feed

[dansbuds]

Cali connections 818 headband ???? i've got 6 of them in flower . 4 ready to come out around xmas & 2 that are at 24 days .
i've got the shark shock in seed form too here

looks like we're on the same strain hunt


lookin good brutha !!!

 

[RB26]

Cali connections 818 headband ???? i've got 6 of them in flower . 4 ready to come out around xmas & 2 that are at 24 days .
i've got the shark shock in seed form too here

looks like we're on the same strain hunt


lookin good brutha !!!

Yup, CC 818. I've had the strain for about 2 years but lost it, so I decided to start from seed. Got 5 phenos going to choose one. How do you like it?

 

[dansbuds]

Haven't smoked it yet , but the guy i got it from loves it . give me about 3 weeks & i'll let ya know

 

[RetroGrow]

Very nice setup!!!
Only two things I would have done differently:
1. Straight Canna coco. No need for perlite. Coco holds tremendous amount of oxygen, and can't be over watered. Frequent watering replenishes the oxygen and gives spectacular growth.
2. I would use Hempy buckets. They will outperform ANY pot by a mile, and you can use smaller buckets, and save on coco, as you can grow trees in a 2 gallon Hempy bucket.
But looking good. You can try 100% coco next time, and try a Hempy bucket or two if you can. Then you will see spectacular growth and achieve tremendous yields.
Here's a couple of trees grown in 100% coco in Hempy buckets (perlite rez). Plants achieved this size in 2 gallon buckets, but were so big they were tipping over constantly in 2 gallon buckets, so were up potted to 5 gallon buckets right @ the flip to keep them from tipping. This is with a 2 month veg with vertical lighting and K.I.S.S. method.

Note: you can see the outline of the 2 gallon bucket in the plant on the left. They got to that size in 2 gallons. They were just transplanted when that picture was shot.
Plant on left yielded a pound (Super Lemon Haze). Other gave about 13 zips.
Subbed.
Curious to see what you yield in that nice room.
Good luck!

 

[RB26]

Haven't smoked it yet , but the guy i got it from loves it . give me about 3 weeks & i'll let ya know

I think you will really like it! I'm trying to score another awesome pheno. The cut my collective had before consistently yielded 2 lbs / 1000W light. It also tests really high. So far they are outperforming Mr. Nice an Mosca genetics so I have high expectations of my batch.





Thanks for the suggestions Retro.

I guess I wanted to mix perlite to allow for some margin of error, since this is my first time in Coco. I really wanted to be sure I could water several times a day and I wasn't sure if I could do that with straight coco. Since planting, I have heard from several people that you can. I will try some straight Coco on my next run and see what difference there is.

Secondly, I was under the impression that you couldn't use regular nursery pots for Hempy Buckets, since there are multiple drainage holes in the bottom, thus not allowing the accumulation of a small reservoir at the bottom. I did play with the idea of throwing some perlite at the bottom of the buckets anyway, just for extra drainage, but I ended up not doing it.

Do you think my 50/50 mix will yield less than straight coco? Unfortunately I can't afford a 2 month veg, I have to shoot for 4 weeks, 5 MAX. I'm hoping to yield at least 2lbs/light since my last run was right below that and had several hiccups.

I'd love to see your pics, but the link you posted is broken, mind linking to it again?

 

[dansbuds]

Secondly, I was under the impression that you couldn't use regular nursery pots for Hempy Buckets, since there are multiple drainage holes in the bottom, thus not allowing the accumulation of a small reservoir at the bottom. I did play with the idea of throwing some perlite at the bottom of the buckets anyway, just for extra drainage, but I ended up not doing it.

you can't use nursery pots . it has to be a sealed bucket & you put 1 hole 2" up from the bottom & thats your drainage hole & fill indicator . when it starts to flow out the hole ..... the rez is full . the white buckets in the pics i just put up of my nets are 2 gallon hempys . i just started using the 3 1/2 gallon black buckets to see if the yield would be better on the same strain than it was in the 2's .

heres a GG in a 3 1/2 with a months veg , they've been in flower for 3 weeks now .this is right before they went in .



same strain same amount of veg ... in a 2 gallon hempy

heres a shot where you can see the hole in the bucket

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[dansbuds]

wow .... my momma always told me that if ya have nothing nice to say .... then say nothing at all !!!

 

[RetroGrow]

Sorry. My browser slowed to a crawl and post didn't go up right. Did a deep scan with Malawarebytes and had 9 viruses. Got rid of them now. Fixed the picture. Straight coco will yield more, but you should do alright just by feeding more frequently/constantly. Since you are using drippers, you can compensate by feeding more frequently. This increases oxygen, so you can make up for the smaller amount of oxygen rich coco just by feeding more.
I normally wouldn't do a 2 month veg.
Broad mites in veg made me take another month to get rid of them.
Hempys aren't pots really, the are buckets, like paint buckets with a single drain hole 2 inches from bottom, so there is a 2 inch rez @ the bottom. It's a passive hydro system which is simple & foolproof, and coco is a hydro medium, so they go great together. You water/feed to runoff daily or as much as you want. The results made me throw away my smart pots and all my other pots. Chunky perlite goes in the small rez in the bottom, then coco on top.

 

[RB26]

Sorry. My browser slowed to a crawl and post didn't go up right. Did a deep scan with Malawarebytes and had 9 viruses. Got rid of them now. Fixed the picture. Straight coco will yield more, but you should do alright just by feeding more frequently/constantly. Since you are using drippers, you can compensate by feeding more frequently. This increases oxygen, so you can make up for the smaller amount of oxygen rich coco just by feeding more.
I normally wouldn't do a 2 month veg.
Broad mites in veg made me take another month to get rid of them.
Hempys aren't pots really, the are buckets, like paint buckets with a single drain hole 2 inches from bottom, so there is a 2 inch rez @ the bottom. It's a passive hydro system which is simple & foolproof, and coco is a hydro medium, so they go great together. You water/feed to runoff daily or as much as you want. The results made me throw away my smart pots and all my other pots. Chunky perlite goes in the small rez in the bottom, then coco on top.

Awesome, I'll try this next go around!

Looks ok. Lots of things you could probably improve on, but.. you'll get it as you go on and learn.

No need to spoil it all for you now, lol.

One thing, though.. once you realize how well cocoa grows plants.. you might want to bury those clones a bit deeper. Let them grow up and out opposed to getting all tall and lanky.

Pinch 'em early and let them blow up. Veg should only be a couple weeks and you should have huge bushes that are a couple foot tall almost.

Lol, thanks?

you can't use nursery pots . it has to be a sealed bucket & you put 1 hole 2" up from the bottom & thats your drainage hole & fill indicator . when it starts to flow out the hole ..... the rez is full . the white buckets in the pics i just put up of my nets are 2 gallon hempys . i just started using the 3 1/2 gallon black buckets to see if the yield would be better on the same strain than it was in the 2's .

heres a GG in a 3 1/2 with a months veg , they've been in flower for 3 weeks now .this is right before they went in .

Man I'm jealous of your genetics!

 

[dansbuds]

Man I'm jealous of your genetics!

No need brutha ... you'll get there like I did .

& uhhhh you don't know the half of it
if i told ya what was in the mom cabinet ... you'd be on a plane headed my way !!! lol

For a little idea of whats here .... very little !! take a look at post 30 in this thread https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275318&page=2

 

[RB26]

It's all good fellas!


Dry - I get what you are saying and I appreciate the help. I would try some of your suggestions but it is a little late seeing how I already planted. And maybe I was a little unclear… this isn't my first grow. This has been solely my room for years, this is just my first time in Coco.

As for the clones, they were planted that way because my SS tends to bush due to its Indica dominance, so I actually wanted them to stretch out a bit. They have been topped though a couple of days ago and are just starting to branch out, they should hit hard soon as I just increased the waterings today to 2xs.

I'd love to hear what issues I might run into in the not too distant future, as obviously I would like to avoid as many issues as possible… if you have any other suggestions please let me know.

 

[RB26]

No need brutha ... you'll get there like I did .

& uhhhh you don't know the half of it
if i told ya what was in the mom cabinet ... you'd be on a plane headed my way !!! lol

For a little idea of whats here .... very little !! take a look at post 30 in this thread https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275318&page=2

Dude…. you don't even know. I'm buying a ticket now… and I don't even know for which state hahah.

 

[dansbuds]

Maybe I should instead type up a giant essay on every single thing wrong and how he can fix it, because that surely won't me me look like a dick, now will it?

"Oh hai, your room sucks.. you're doing lots wrong.. here, let me LIST IT OFF FOR YOU..."

Not quite. Like I said, he'll learn as he goes along and there is nothing wrong with that. When he has an issue hopefully you can chime in as well, instead of just flapping your gums at the keyboard.

Lmao .... thats exactly how you came off !!! dude your so high up on your own pedistal that you can't even see how condisending you are !! i'm done & out ! i'm not going to ruin this mans thread trying to convince you otherwise .
yeah condisending is spelled wrong too . you gonna chastise me for that too ?

Oh & uhhhh the neg reps your getting ..... they aren't from me ! so it looks like i'm not the only one thinking you come off as a .......


IC OVO .... i'm out brutha ....I can't deal with these kinds of people !!! keep up the good work & you know how to reach me if ya have questions .

 

[RB26]

Alright can we cut this out yet?

 

[RB26]

Of course.

Don't listen to me, I have no idea what i'm doing.

<3

I never said that, in fact if you read my previous posts I asked for some suggestions from you. But for some reason you continue to post sarcastic remarks towards me... not entirely sure why. I'm sure you do know what you're talking about and I would like to see. However, I can't find where you've documented your progress on this site, which is why you just come off as rude.

 

[Caravaggio]

Your room is gonna kill it you got the right stuff for it
I been using straight coco no perlite and killing it, I will probably never add anything else again. Simple and proficient

This is the correct!

Im done mixing anything but Coco with my Coco! I actually now add some coco CHIPS to help with drainage

 

[DabOnDabs]

you can't use nursery pots . it has to be a sealed bucket & you put 1 hole 2" up from the bottom & thats your drainage hole & fill indicator . when it starts to flow out the hole ..... the rez is full . the white buckets in the pics i just put up of my nets are 2 gallon hempys . i just started using the 3 1/2 gallon black buckets to see if the yield would be better on the same strain than it was in the 2's .

heres a GG in a 3 1/2 with a months veg , they've been in flower for 3 weeks now .this is right before they went in .

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same strain same amount of veg ... in a 2 gallon hempy

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heres a shot where you can see the hole in the bucket

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Damn, thats some crazy branching ! Love how they start so low and stocky to begin with. How do you train/top them?

 

[dansbuds]

I just start topping when they're small & as the branches grow out i start tying them down . i like to have 4 main branches before i start tying , but it doesn't always work out that way & then once they get to a length i like , i just let them stretch upwards towards the light & trim out some of the smaller sucker branches in the middle . it works pretty good i got the Idea from TonyGreen here the man is a master when it comes to training for bushes !!

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[dansbuds]

double post , something went haywire

 

[RB26]

Plants look super healthy dan!