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using Magnets on your plants

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BrnCow

I saw the tv news at lunch one day while in Houston. An old man had a Ferris wheel looking device with tin foil and magnets arraigned around it. The news claimed he had invented a perpetual motion machine. Looked like two cops were leading him and his machine away. Supposed to be another news clip at 6 p.m. and I made damn sure to watch but never another word mentioned about it....
 

PetFlora

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Thanks Tric. I do not have a compass, but suspect my magnets are radial.

One thing is certain, overall growth and bud development has been excellent, if not exceptional

Does that YT video change your mind about 'free' energy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLfpXpO5sQ

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uh...radial magnet...

http://www.magmamagnets.com/radial-sintered-magnets

the one video of the structured water explains the way the magnet is polarized. the south pole inside, north pole outside the ring. made it sound like it mattered.
 

trichrider

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hehe heheh

NO. i've seen better examples...i'll look for the best ones to repost.

... amplitude may be the answer...(a perpetual motion machine with magnetic booster)


and in medicinal use of magnets i understand the south (POSITIVE) pole to be beneficial and north not.

use the compass to orient poles, if they lie in the perpendicular to the axis, then your magnets are radial. south inside, north outside.
if the poles are opposing ends of axis they are just ring magnets.

i've been doing some experiments with coils connected to galvanic cell with my medium as the electrolyte. some damn strange results. just flipped one yesterday.

the ring magnets around the meristem from seed would be interesting as a correlation to the magnetic field inside a coil with current.

without having to reread, where are your specimens in flower?
 

PetFlora

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From a man I loath, Donald Rumsfeld, who said "We know what we know, and don't know what we don't know"

Basically, there are things we know, and things we don't, but take or granted

I dont think he is the GURU of (magnetic) water structure..
I followed the links and nothing really .....
PLZ let me now why you will follow ?
THX for sharing your ideas here.
PEACE
 
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Sativa Dragon

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Any perpetual motion machine that is not in a vacuum will eventually stop to to mechanical resistance of the atmosphere acting on it.

Peace
 

Max Headroom

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the idea for that wheel is fucking genius!


also: people get hung up on 'perpetual' motion while ignoring that something running with HIGH efficiency could be a big breakthrough as well. i mean, what are today's top car combustion engines capable of? around 17% efficiency IIRC.
pretty shameful for a technology that's been around for 100+ years.
 

trichrider

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the idea for that wheel is fucking genius!


also: people get hung up on 'perpetual' motion while ignoring that something running with HIGH efficiency could be a big breakthrough as well. i mean, what are today's top car combustion engines capable of? around 17% efficiency IIRC.
pretty shameful for a technology that's been around for 100+ years.

especially considering that hydrogen fuel cells are better and non polluting....

it will be electric...guaranteed.

http://www.plasmacosmology.net/electric.html

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/

http://www.rdmag.com/news/2012/05/plants-grow-without-light

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=scientists-grow-plants-wi

enjoy my brothers!
 

trichrider

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off topic but fascinating nonetheless...

Researchers in Germany build bio-based solar cell

Researchers at the Ruhr-Universität Bochum (RUB) have developed a bio-based solar cell. They embedded the two proteins photosystem 1 and 2, which in plants are responsible of photosynthesis, into complex molecules developed in-house, thus creating an efficient electron current. Headed by Prof Dr Wolfgang Schuhmann from the Department of Analytical Chemistry and Center for Electrochemical Sciences (CES) and Prof Dr Matthias Rögner from the Department of Plant Biochemistry, the team has published a report in the journal Angewandte Chemie.

Isolating and embedding photosystems

In leaves, the photosystems 1 and 2 utilise light energy very efficiently; this is required for converting carbon dioxide into oxygen and biomass. The Bochum researchers’ bio-based solar cell, on the other hand, generates electricity rather than biomass. Prof Rögner’s team isolated the two photosystems from thermophilic cyanobacteria that live in a hot spring in Japan. Because of their habitat and behaviour, their photosystems are much more stable than comparable proteins of species that do not occur under extreme environmental conditions. Prof Schuhmann’s team developed complex electron-conducting materials, so-called redox hydrogels. The researchers embedded the photosystems into these hydrogels in order to connect them to the electrodes of the photovoltaic cells.

Structure of the bio-based solar cell

The cell is made up of two chambers. In the first chamber, the protein photosystem 2 extracts electrons from water molecules, thus generating oxygen. The electrons migrate through the redox hydrogel to the electrode in the first chamber which is connected to the electrode in the second chamber. The electrode in the second chamber conducts the electrons via a different redox hydrogel onto photosystem 1. There, electrons are passed to oxygen; water is generated. However, the photosystems carry out these processes only if they are powered by light energy. Thus, if exposed to light, there is a continuous electricity flow within the closed system.

Efficiency may be increased

In order to convert solar into electric energy, there must be a potential difference between the two electrodes. The Bochum researchers have established this difference by deploying redox hydrogels with different potentials. The potential difference determines the bio photovoltaic cell’s voltage and, consequently, its efficiency. Currently, the bio-based solar cell boasts an efficiency of several nanowatts per square centimeter. “The system may be considered a blueprint for the development of semi-artificial and natural cell systems in which photosynthesis is used for the light-driven production of secondary energy carriers such as hydrogen,” says Prof Rögner.

The project was funded by the German Research Foundation (Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft) as part of the Cluster of Excellence RESOLV (EXC 1069) and by the EU as part of the program “CyanoFactory” and “COST Action TD1102 Phototech”.

http://www.rdmag.com/news/2013/11/researchers-germany-build-bio-based-solar-cell
 

trichrider

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Grow Plants in Total Darkness

By Kevin Leichner





Some people claim that it's possible to grow plants in total darkness. If you'd like to see for yourself, you'll find all the information you need right here. Think what a great science project this could make for you or someone you know.

To give you a general overview of the experiment, a seed is placed in a container along with two metal plates. The container is placed in a box or somewhere light can't reach it. Wires from the plates go to a plate outside the house and to an electrical ground inside the house. Energy gathered from the outside plate travels down the wire to the seed where it causes the seed to sprout and grow in the absence of sunlight.

We'll be using seeds in this case, but you can also try using young or mature plants as well. Just know that as the size of the plant increases, the size of the plate must also increase. It may take some experimentation to find the right size of the metal plate in relation to the size of the plant.

Here is a list of things you'll need for this experiment:

1. Two lengths of thin, insulated wire for each container. They can be any gauge you have around.

2. Three metal plates (approximately 2" x 2") for each seed. Aluminum roof flashing works great.

3. A small container for each seed.

4. Seeds of your choice for planting.

STEP 1

Find two wires that are long enough for one to reach from where you have the container inside the house, to a high spot outside the house. The other needs to be long enough to reach a grounding source, such as a water pipe, inside the house.

STEP 2

Strip away an inch or so of the insulation from both ends of each wire and attach the one going to the grounding source to one of the plates as follows:

Drill a small hole close to the edge of the plate and thread the wire through it. Loop the bare wire back to itself and twist the wires together. Solder the wire at the hole to keep it in place and to make the electrical connection.

You can also use duct tape, glue, or anything else you can find to keep the bare wire always touching the metal plate. An electrical connection to the plate is crucial for this to work.

STEP 3

Place the metal plate in the container where you'll be planting the seed and run the wire up and over the edge. Fill the container with potting soil or dirt and plant the seed. Place the container on a table a few feet above the ground.

STEP 4

Run the wire from the plate to an electrical ground. An easy place to find a ground is underneath a sink. Wrap the bare wire around one of the bare pipes coming out of the wall to make this connection.

STEP 5

Attach the longer wire that will be going to the high spot on the outside of the house to another metal plate. Drill a hole, insert and twist the wire, then solder in the same manner as the first plate.

STEP 6

This step may take a bit of ingenuity on your part, but you need to find a way to suspend the second plate a few inches above the soil where the seed is planted. In doing so, this plate can't touch the soil in any way. Devise whatever method you can to ensure that no contact is made.

A possible solution might be to put, over the top of the seed, one of those plastic spacers that sits in the middle of a pizza to keep the lid from smashing in. Push the legs of the spacer into the dirt and attach the metal plate to it to hold it suspended over the seed.

As the experiment progresses and the seed grows, you will need to think of another way to suspend the plate over the plant. Test different heights for the upper plate and find the height that allows optimal plant growth.

STEP 7

Finally, connect the free end of the wire from the upper plate to the remaining plate as already described. Guide the plate and wire outside to a high spot, either on the roof, in a tree, or on a pole. Placing this plate the greatest distance possible from the ground will allow more energy to flow down the wire to the plant.

That's all there is to it! You're now ready to sit back and watch something mysterious happen. Water the plant as needed and check for growth.

Try different variations of this experiment and have some fun finding out what works best for you. If you have success, share what you learn with others. Science is for us to learn and use, and when we give this information to others, we all benefit.



Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/?expert=Kevin_Leichner
 

PetFlora

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Nice to see some new posts here!

Until the powers that be embrace hyper-dimensional physics, we are doomed to inefficient & polluting energy alternatives, which is where the money and control lies for them
 

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Nice to see some new posts here!

Until the powers that be embrace hyper-dimensional physics, we are doomed to inefficient & polluting energy alternatives, which is where the money and control lies for them
Can't wait for pocket fusion. Even Tesla would like that one I believe. ;)
 

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An alternative "Grow in the dark" method, is to paint the inside of a box with copper paint. Also said to keep veggies fresh longer. Hmmm, I should try that in my fridge crisper
 
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