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Terpenation at Terpene Station

Holden Oversoul

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None. I've never used it for anything but washing the extraction out of the lower pot after extraction. I'm pretty sure it would end up contaminating the butane in the recovery tank, just like it will pick up water given time.

Additionally, if the butane were contaminated after x number of runs, could the butane then be distilled (per GW's procedure on the SPR website) to remove the alcohol,water, and other contaminants?
 

high life 45

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I have, but it just seemed like another place for leaks, and will only give you the temp for that area.

Where would you put it?

Whats wrong with a temp gun?
 
Is anyone using more filter driers than just the one on the appion? How about regular filtering of the tank?

I have one on every line, and on both sides of the appion. And i replace them weekly. I need to get the dry-able ones that durden has.

I bet we could make our own filter driers out of TC parts, using some sort of desiccant that is suitable for butane.


Highlife,
The thermowell that JC linked would dip down into your oil pool, giving the temp of the butane/oil in the collection pot. An IR gun only tells you the temp of the outside of the chamber, which is not a very good indication of actual oil temp.

I would imagine that the temp would swing very wildly as the temp of the pool plunges when the butane evaporates.

There really isnt room on top of the mkIII for any more additions, perhaps on the MKV
 

vapor

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I have one on every line, and on both sides of the appion. And i replace them weekly. I need to get the dry-able ones that durden has.

I bet we could make our own filter driers out of TC parts, using some sort of desiccant that is suitable for butane.


Highlife,
The thermowell that JC linked would dip down into your oil pool, giving the temp of the butane/oil in the collection pot. An IR gun only tells you the temp of the outside of the chamber, which is not a very good indication of actual oil temp.

I would imagine that the temp would swing very wildly as the temp of the pool plunges when the butane evaporates.

There really isnt room on top of the mkIII for any more additions, perhaps on the MKV


zeolite might work takes the water out of my ethanol...
 

Gray Wolf

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Additionally, if the butane were contaminated after x number of runs, could the butane then be distilled (per GW's procedure on the SPR website) to remove the alcohol,water, and other contaminants?

Re distilling will remove most of the water and alcohol, but they are still somewhat soluble in butane, so a final polish with a filter dryer is a good idea.

We've also found, that if you periodically empty your tank and turn it upside down for the last bit of vapor, it will blow out any accumulated water through the vapor valve.

We picked up a Robinair filter dryer built for Chrysler Corporation automotive, which has a replaceable element, which can also be baked out, and which has a liquid pump to circulate the butane from the liquid dip tube valve on the tank, back to the tank through the vapor port valve. I bought it used and took it off of a refrigerant recovery and reclaim unit.
 

Holden Oversoul

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Has anyone tried decarboxylating the starting material before processing in the Terpenator?
According to the instructions for The Liquidizer it's recommended that you try decarboxylated starting material to achieve rich, toasty, nutty flavors.
 

pusbag

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sight glass link

sight glass link

High Life,

Not at the moment. I had mine break during a gasket replacement. It broke so easy I must admit I am a little concerned. It was a bit stuck to the buna gasket, which was breaking down btw. As I pulled the glass off the gasket it broke in my hands. I was a bit surprised how easy it went for being Boro and so thick. So I have found a better option for peeping the action. Fused stainless and glass that will not fail, or so they say... A bit more spendy but for the promise of never failing Ill take it. It is much smaller and attaches to a triclamp port, ie an instrument arm and you can even get them with explosion proof lighting options... ;) hit me up if you are interested.


On another note I have noticed my buna gaskets giving off a black residue when I wipe them down. A friend who has attended the SP classes mentioned GW said that they will breakdown if you clean them with alcohol, which I do regularly. So I switched to Viton for all my gaskets. I have a fresh pack of buna that I will finish off first. changing them frequently is key .... Maybe GW can elaborate..


FE
So just wanting link to the sight glass that attaches to tri clamp port ? Thanks
 

Holden Oversoul

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So just wanting link to the sight glass that attaches to tri clamp port ? Thanks
[URL="http://www.rubberfab.com/sites/default/files/products/pdfs/RF-Sight.Gauges_1.pdf"This is the one that I want next.[/URL] the SPR site has links to the sight glasses and gaskets.
 
Has anyone tried decarboxylating the starting material before processing in the Terpenator?
According to the instructions for the Liquidizer it's recommended that you try decarboxylated starting material to achieve rich, toasty, nutty flavors.

We fully decarb our flowers before they go into our glycerin tinctures for exactly that reason. My experience has been that flowers or trim that are decarbed tend to be darker and less likely to be shatter when purged if extracted with butane. Most folks, recreational users that is, tend to like purdy extracts. Most medical users want the relief as a first consideration and how purdy it is secondarily.

I've been to more than one safety meeting with Gray Wolf and had my head caved in by some dark tar like oil that 99% of recreational users would turn their noses up at.

All depends on what you are after.
 

Gray Wolf

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Has anyone tried decarboxylating the starting material before processing in the Terpenator?
According to the instructions for The Liquidizer it's recommended that you try decarboxylated starting material to achieve rich, toasty, nutty flavors.

We've decarboxylated both before and after exctraction.

The rich, toasty, nutty flavors are at the expense of the floral flavors, as the heat drives off the monoterpenes.

It is also lots easier to tell where you are at afterwards, by watching the bubbles.
 

anonymousgrow

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been only recently able to consistently get golden shatter with 20-26% yields from good nugs to start with. now its time for closed loop.
 

icdog

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Has anybody tried a thermo electric cooler for the tank? I'm not running dry ice and these coolers might be able to keep ice cool to not melt or even without ice keep the tank cool enough. They say they pull the temp down to 40 f below ambient.
 

high life 45

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When we came up in August to pick up our MK3 and take the BHO class, we tried some winterized oil that was a little runny and on the darker side but it was one of the more potent oils we sampled that weekend.

Did you get the mk3 drill?

After a thorough safety meeting the mk3 was placed in front of us in pieces...

"Here ya go! Now try to put it back together!"
:huggg:

We did pretty good.
 

icdog

Member
How are you guys packing the tubes now? I used a ss 400 mesh on top of the gasket screen, I cut out a circle of coffee filter and then wadded up one coffee filter for each ends.
So far there is no plant material getting through but I'm not thrilled with the yield so far. Around 10 - 12 % with reasonable stuff. I'm thinking the 400 mesh is too limiting but not sure.

GW any updates on the recovery pump shootout?

Does it matter if the tank, terp and recovery pump are at the same level? My terp and appion are at the same level but the tank is about a foot below them.
 

nakadashi

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Is anyone using more filter driers than just the one on the appion? How about regular filtering of the tank?

Per Mr Durdens recommendation I picked up a huge filter drier (Emerson STAS-485t) placed between the appion and recovery tank. I don't know what actual difference it makes but it gives me peace of mind. Now the little filter between the appion and terpenator is just to prevent any oil from getting into the appion.
 
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