Zamaldelica

[dubi]

very nice plant Touchy on N, heat stress, water.
Had her topped, LSTed.
Growing in 5gal pot under 150W HPS shared with another plant, managed to maintain her under 18" although was real stretchy. Switched to 12/12 almost from sprout.
pics are taken on day 104 into flower. Planning to keep her for 1-2 more weeks since there still lots of newly developing calyxes.
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calyxes are very small and tightly packed. I am far from being experienced grower and these are hardly somewhat outstanding results, I just wanted to show that it's possible to grow Zamaldelica even when you have like 2" vertical space.

Amazing results simsim especially considering they were flowered straight from seed under 150 w. I'd really like to congratulate you for such good cares in your Zamaldelicas.

 

[BongMasterBabaj]

Super!!! I'm living on Tenerife Island (Canarias) ans i'm looking forward to pop some of the super sativa hybrid soon! Need more sativa strains on the islan everybody here planting and smoking indica only cos they are faster!?!?

 

[smk8000]

I'm very interested in the Zamaldelica. I have a couple questions about it. I've heard that the effects/yield are slightly different on the feminized version. How so? I would like to go fem just because I have a full house of other strains and it would be nice to just plant them and not worry about sexing. However, if it will be a less desirable product feminized I would go with the regs. Secondly, does the Zamaldelica perform well in an indoor hydro setup?

 

[gloryoskie]

I grow the regular stock, coco hempy, totally okay
with an indoor set up, flowered from cuttings, done
several grows and very trainable.

From a previous grow, in a box, 20" x 18" x 24".

 

[dubi]

Super!!! I'm living on Tenerife Island (Canarias) ans i'm looking forward to pop some of the super sativa hybrid soon! Need more sativa strains on the islan everybody here planting and smoking indica only cos they are faster!?!?

Hola BongMasterBabaj,

I also dont understand why people choose to grow indica genetics in humid subtropical climates like yours, indica strains grow too small with the reduced subtropical photoperiod, producing small plants of small yields, indicas plants would easily get mold in the rainy Canary islands but still do ok in the more desertic ones like lanzarote or fuerteventura.

Canary islands it's a paradise to grow our sativas, especially the more tropical lines that could be a bit difficult to finish properly in the peninsule, but perform exceptionally well there in the islands. We would recommend you to choose at least 75 % sativa hybrids, Zamaldelica works great there.

 

[dubi]

I'm very interested in the Zamaldelica. I have a couple questions about it. I've heard that the effects/yield are slightly different on the feminized version. How so? I would like to go fem just because I have a full house of other strains and it would be nice to just plant them and not worry about sexing. However, if it will be a less desirable product feminized I would go with the regs. Secondly, does the Zamaldelica perform well in an indoor hydro setup?

Greetings smk8000,

Zamaldelica standard version is more zamal/thai influenced, the heavy side of malawi is not so present, the standard version would be my recommendation if your main concern is to find the most trippy clean and energetic effects in the line.

Zamaldelica fem has more malawi, it's more uniform, more powerful in the classic way and is more resinous and better yielding in average than the standard line.

 

[Cannabisso]

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[simsim]

Amazing results simsim especially considering they were flowered straight from seed under 150 w. I'd really like to congratulate you for such good cares in your Zamaldelicas.

Thank you for the kind words. Means a lot hearing them from you

So in total it took 124days, 119days(17weeks) of flower. Buds were very tight. Got 65g of very tightly packed buds out of it. But the plant was sharing the light with another long flowering sativa(cannabiogen Destroyer).
I also had some problems like salt build up which I was incompetent to identify.

The effect is very much uplifting, heart racy. But with racyness comes trippyness. Thank you for the great strain!

 

[dubi]

Strain: Zamaldelica (Zamal x Golden Tiger[Malawi/Thai])
Breeder: ACE
Sex: male
Age: 117 days
Size: 140 cm
Medium: Organic soil

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Nice Cannabisso Any plans for him ? Your male looks on the golden tiger side of the hybrid.

 

[dubi]

Thank you for the kind words. Means a lot hearing them from you

So in total it took 124days, 119days(17weeks) of flower. Buds were very tight. Got 65g of very tightly packed buds out of it. But the plant was sharing the light with another long flowering sativa(cannabiogen Destroyer).
I also had some problems like salt build up which I was incompetent to identify.

The effect is very much uplifting, heart racy. But with racyness comes trippyness. Thank you for the great strain!

Hola simsim

Yes, you are right. This kind of long flowering sativas with low nutrient requeriments are usually a bit sensitive to high salt levels and is not easy to finish them perfectly after the long flowering (especially if they are grown in pot, in soil they work great alone).

Im glad you like the effect and genetics. Thanks to you for the feedback and your successful experience!

 

[Cannabisso]

Nice Cannabisso Any plans for him ? Your male looks on the golden tiger side of the hybrid.

His leaves look very much like my Malawi male. Very thick leaves.

 

[Cannabisso]

How can I recognize the killer Malawi phenotype? Is it the one with the thinner leaves or the one with the thicker leaves? Cheers.

 

[ThaiBliss]

How can I recognize the killer Malawi phenotype? Is it the one with the thinner leaves or the one with the thicker leaves? Cheers.

Hi Cannabisso,

I'm guessing you love the Zamadelica, since you have been starting so many breeding projects with it! Good news for me, since I have one in the oven now.

I only have experience with Golden Tiger. I was told about one of them I grew that it looked like a Malawi leaner. That one had shorter internode length and large buds. It would up having very skinny leaves near the top, but did have wider leaves when it started out.

Others might have better advice, but I hope this helps.

ThaiBliss

 

[dubi]

Hi Cannabisso, your Zamaldelica male seems to be Golden Tiger (Malawi/Thai) dominant, i like the sound of zamaldelica crossed to bangi haze, tikal or skunk, it would be great to see the outcome of your hybrids.

All the best!

 

[cadizboy]

on this days i will show pics from my 16 zamaldelicas

i want cross 1 zamal male with my ciskey female and other early sativas


what kind of zamal male pheno is best to cross if i need early maturing plants?

thai male or african?

 

[rik78]

the african should be quicker than the thai, me thinks....

 

[sensimilla13]

Lab results, even for the same exact sample, will come back with different results depending on the which lab is doing the work and how they went about testing it. If you look at how these labs are testing samples there really is no standard by which they all do their tests.

The other thing to remember is that the THC % that a lab result gives you does not describe what percentage of the bud is actually THC. People assume that this what the number means but it simple isn't true. There is no bud on earth that is 20% THC by mass. The percentage they give you reflects the percentage of THC in relation to the other cannabanoids and compounds found in the trichomes and resin only. In other words they are only testing the contents of the resin in a sample rather than how much resin is present. Another thing to consider is that those other cannabaniods that are present in the resin and not mentioned in the results are often psychoactive such as THCV.

The number that is much more meaningful and the one which is rarely given by a lab is the percentage of THC in a sample compared to its total mass. This number is always much lower, usually around 5% to 10% for good medical grade, but it is this number that will tell you how strong the bud really is.

Long story made short, standard lab results which do not give you this second number really don't tell you much about the strength of the cannabis. Even if your cannabis has a very high % of THC in its resin it won't be very potent if there isn't much of this resin present in the buds. On the other hand, if you have a sample with a medium % of THC in its resin but which is absolutely covered in it, you will find that it is much stronger than the first sample which looks much better on the one dimensional lab results.

I should add that even when a lab tests for the % of THC present in the sample compared to the total mass, there are so many variables that its still not particularly accurate. For instance you can skew the results simply by cutting out only the most trich rich parts of the bud and adding them to the sample to make it test better or you could just grab the bare tips of some sugar leaves with few trichs and it will skew the results in the other direction.

You really can't learn much from typical lab results except for the type of effects you can expect. High THC% and or THCV% with low CBD% means the bud will have a more sativa like effect. High CBN% will make it more sleepy and sedating as will high CBD%. In the end nothing beats a nice well written and thought out smoke report by another person.

Hi Terpene!
Great log man, I'm just got my hands on a Thai leaning Zamaldelica cut to try! Thanks for the awesome journal!

I have some issues with this post so I'll address that too. I want to share with everyone that the claims made in this statement are 100% false with regard to conclusions made about potency testing.

The amount of THC reported IS THE ACTUAL WEIGHT...but it's based on dry weight...not the weight of the bud in the sack you bought. It has to be fully dehydrated as analytics looks at the tissue and compounds in the plant...not the water!!!

Do yourself a favor and look up "determining dry weights" of plant tissue!

Perpetuating false info is LAME! It's obvious you don't know the first thing about analytical laboratory techniques...if you did then your know that a honest, ethical and well-trained scientist will get very similar numbers because sampling is done properly to get an average THC (or whatever else) from the while plant, not the top bud!

This is what happened when greedy stoners are in charge of the science!

And CBD is NOT A SEDATIVE! Quite the opposite in fact...look it up!

That's all I have to say on that matter...

Excellent work on the ZD!

 

[Zrolowany]

Hello, I've just start to grow Zamaldelica after I read this topic 1 fem seed 11/13 from seed, under leds I hope that she will start flowering around 4 weeks, not enough space in my micro but I take a risk to smoke that strain I'm planning to have something like scrog but under the plant's stems which should help me LST. Today is 1st day of zamaldelica life, I will post some pictures when she will be bigger and start flowering

Here is my box

Size : 30x33x57 centimetres not inches! POT: 3L

 

[rik78]

woaahhh, this is going to be interesting, such a small space and large pot for this strechy girl, please keep us updated!!

 

[Painfull]

Yea, I would agree. You would have more space with a smaller pot like a 5gal bucket. This will give you more bud. I like your setup. Just my 2 cents. Good luck,

Pain