Avi's Fresh Start

[Avinash.miles]

thanks Mrcleancut and cdm

How are things comin along bro? SL

all good!
the strawberry cough fem is flipped,
all the sweettooth x casey jones (I've got theem labeled stagger lee, for lack of any other "name") are still in veg in cups, gonna put them into one gal pots then sex them i think, already took some cuts off the stag.lees,
also got some clones to root off those ras richie jamaican's (still unsexed)
AND some rooted clones from my drizella bx's (unsexed too)
AND some rooted from the dynasty des*Tar bxs (ALSO unsexed)

So im thinking to up-pot the unsexed plants and throwing them into flowering to sex them, then pull out the females to continue vegging them into moms and bigger plants, does that sound... "ok"? input please on that....



still digging for that camera card....


On the bucket system side:
the chunky Diesel and buddah's sisters have all popped back from the stress (root rot?) caused mid veg... the others.... some just "ok" some straight up sad looking.

On the top fed soil side:
flo & flo crosses looking killer, spaced them out, about 9 per light now, did some thinning as well.
plants from seed have greened up after a foliar feed w calmag/seagreen, as well as a higher N root feed (plus calmag+).
got one bay 11 female, not blue ox females (fuk!). the deadhead og's are looking stellar, as are the Loud sours.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

Awesome thread Avi.

I wanted to touch on a few comments I read earlier in this thread in regards to Max 14" fan. A bit late, but better late then never.

Having owned all of the Max fans up to 14" I'd say the 14" is not necessarily superior. It's CFM drops drastically after only a short run of ducting. Much shorter run then it's counterparts.

Performance Data (resistance measured as in.wg)​

whatever that means, but its referring to the CFM loss with resistance/ducting I believe.

12" is 1708CFM at 0" & 1460 at 1.0"
14" is 1700CFM at 0" & 240 at 1.0" <--!!

I prefer the 10" as it is much quieter then the 12" and more powerful against resistance then the 14" on longer runs. I'd rather just run the multiple 10s then have that loud 12". In terms of raw power through I believe the 12" wins hands down.

10" is 1019CFM at 0" & 705 at 1.0"


Word to the wise. I believe the 14" is strictly for scrubbing for very very short runs with little to no resistance.

See their charts here
- http://canfilters.com/max_fan_home_2.html


Hope I could help.
Next grow I'll be dropping my Max 14" from my vented room and putting it back in my sealed room as a scrubbing unit. The 10" did a better job at evacuating my vented space. My old 12" was an animal but made too much noise for my liking. I sold every 8" and 12" max I had for 10s and 14s. The 14s I later discovered to be lacking under resistance. Went digging for answers and sure enough discovered these specs on CanFilters.com




My info in response to the below posts...

hey man glad ta be here for the show, excited to see that garage filled up.

14" maxfans move 1800cfm just like the 12" max but are just about silent. i need to get within 3-4' to hear 2 of them running. same motor, less RPM = less sound.

they're quieter than my 6 and 8" fans too.

this is great info!

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] I always wondered why someone would want to be cutting bigger holes and still getting the same cfms. Looks like I will be using the 14"s now instead. Thanks! [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]subbed, lookin good avi! looks like everyone's poppin bunches of beans around here. I wish I knew that 14 inchers were quieter than 12's before I bought three of them. it sounds like jets taking off in my basements. [/FONT]

 

[Avinash.miles]

EDIT: thanks for the input flowerfarmer!

FOUND IT!!! (camera card reader)

^^^ bucket system pics

^flo tray

^seed tray

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Glad you found it Avi.......Let the fun begin.
Things are lookin good man.

 

[wildgrow]

On the bucket system side:
the chunky Diesel and buddah's sisters have all popped back from the stress (root rot?) caused mid veg... the others.... some just "ok" some straight up sad looking

I see. So the problem was not having the buckets tilted to ensure a full drain? Are the stunted/sick ones all the same genetic?

Everything else is looking really .

Seed table - hardly. Looks like a table of full fledged plants waiting their collective turn to me.

 

[Avinash.miles]

I see. So the problem was not having the buckets tilted to ensure a full drain? Are the stunted/sick ones all the same genetic?

Everything else is looking really .

Seed table - hardly. Looks like a table of full fledged plants waiting their collective turn to me.

the problem with the bucket system was (imo) a combination of too much water & not enough air to the root zone AND perhaps some veg nutes that had gone "bad". botanicare line, some bottles had been in storage for about a year, temp sways.... hot & cold. just a guess.
no the stunted ones are not all the same genetics, nor were all the stunted ones from the white buckets.... now i have shuffled the buckets around, put all the good plants in black buckets under the 2 lights over the bucket system, and shifted the other 2 lights that were planned for the bucket system over to the other side of the room for the soil plants
the plan was to run 8 lights flowering, but damn
no point blazing 2 more 1ks for those stunted little fuckers in the bucket system.

as far as the "seed tray" you are right, they are mature plants, been sexed, i just call it that because all the plant on it are from seeds of varieties i have not yet grown out... it's all new to me over there.

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

the problem with the bucket system was (imo) a combination of too much water & not enough air to the root zone AND perhaps some veg nutes that had gone "bad". botanicare line, some bottles had been in storage for about a year, temp sways.... hot & cold. just a guess.
no the stunted ones are not all the same genetics, nor were all the stunted ones from the white buckets.... now i have shuffled the buckets around, put all the good plants in black buckets under the 2 lights over the bucket system, and shifted the other 2 lights that were planned for the bucket system over to the other side of the room for the soil plants
the plan was to run 8 lights flowering, but damn
no point blazing 2 more 1ks for those stunted little fuckers in the bucket system.

as far as the "seed tray" you are right, they are mature plants, been sexed, i just call it that because all the plant on it are from seeds of varieties i have not yet grown out... it's all new to me over there.

Old nutes can def be the problem; i had some 5 gallon Canna A&B bottles go south on me but didnt wanna hear it that i wasted the nutes, so i ran em anyway an wasted a 3k setup ages ago. Did ur rez always have that fermented stank? If so ur spot on. Its too easy for this system to fuq up when running it with more than 18 sites per res. To much fluctuations with nutes an temps. Everything else looks killer Avi.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

Prolly the old nutes, or just perhaps stress from the transplant. I'd always get a little hung up when coming from square pots of hydroton 5.5" into my Ebb buckets. They'd stall on me every time.

Buddy got much better results vegging in 4x4 RW and then snuggling it down into his buckets of hydroton.


I always ran the normal 15min flood ever 4 hours and roots were always pearly white and rocking. Never understood everyone's gripe about the bit of waters left in the bottom bucket. No troubles of rot or stank over here flooding buckets of hydroton at those intervals.


If I wasn't so intrigued with these PPKs right now I'd want to build a bullet proof Ebb bucket setup as DHF speaks of. Stopped running my CAP systems when a air-locked pump caused the system to sit flooded for a few days. Everything drowned. Redundancy is the name of the game now. Aside from bending over at harvest time lugging buckets full of hydroton around this has got to be the easiest system I've ever ran.

 

[DHF]

5 gal ebb and flow buckets are not that much different from a PPK setup except more water roots in the bottom 1-1/2" of the bottom container instead of a single or multiple tailpieces with more solution in bottom container that gets waay more feeds than my 3 times a day lights on buckets ever did.......but......

I wasn`t growin big plants.....It was 2-1/2 oz plants avg instead of 2+ lbs avg with PPK`s.....not to say that ebb and flow buckets can`t grow big plants , it`s just not what I was after with increased plant numbers and consistent returns......regardless...

Ebb and flow buckets done right without the bullshit controller and cheapass timers is all but bulletproof...guaranteed.....

Good luck Avi....Freds..........

 

[Avinash.miles]

Did ur rez always have that fermented stank? ..... Everything else looks killer Avi.

no stank in the rez, ever to my knowledge ( i would know....)
thanks AS.

Prolly the old nutes, or just perhaps stress from the transplant.

def not transplant stress, the bucket system plants established, exploded with growth, THEN staled and looked stressed, so i veged another week or 2 (2ithink), saw them coming back, and flipped them.

 

[Avinash.miles]

^flo tray

^^ buddah's sister, best looking plants in the bucket system

EDIT:
also... just picked up some sin city seeds, las vegas bubba kush and boss's sister (el jeffe x buddahs sister)

 

[Avinash.miles]

^bucket system, buddah's sister killing it still. others looking a lil bit sad; chunky d doing very well, some happy flo in buckets as well....

^^chunky D in hydro buckets, one of the nicest looking plants next to the 2 buddah's sisters.

^^^ tray of plants grown from seed, nearly all have been topped, some 2x, looking for lots of tops, and luckily I still have come out with a more or less even canopy.... one flo og is WAY tall....

^flo tray, some yellowing happening, gonna brew some extra tough tea, maybe some cal mag also needed...

^ fem strawberry cough from seed (thanks to vStagger Leev !!)
thick nugs, short and stout, not much stretch on this lil indica lady.

 

[noyd666]

must smell nice in there , big one at top looks a stand out, keeping busy av.

 

[Avinash.miles]

smells just starting to come out in there...
meanwhile, took a shitload of clones, some off unsexed plants of: drizella bx, dynasty des*tar bx, and (what I'm calling) stagger lee.
AND cracked some new seeds: sin city las vegas bubba kush, sin city cherry line el jeffe x buddah's sister (boss's sister), DNA kosher kush, sumo slumber, and some fem. death star.

so that's exciting too....

 

[ceosam]

nice uniformity on the seedling tray!

 

[Avinash.miles]

poppin' new seeds

poppin' new seeds

It's that time again...

seeds in the unlabeled bag are sumo slumber which is:
(sweet tooth #3 x ak-47) f6 x (white widow x kyle kushman strawberry cough) x afgani landrace indica)F3
thank you to double kindness for the sumo slumber!!!


the deathstar were gifted to me by a passer-thru, he had ohio license plates... seemed somewhat legit.

really looking forward to the Las Vegas Bubba Kush (LVBK) from sin city; I've always been allured to "re-finding" a killer kut of BK.


also, im currently collecting pollen from a bay 11 in a yogurt cup, then will be collecting pollen from a deadhead og f2 (nice structure & TONS of pollen sacs)

 

[Avinash.miles]

week 4 update

week 4 update

^^ deadhead ogk f2, look at them tops!

^^ also deadhead ogk f2, different pheno

^strawberry cough feminized seed, chunky-est plant in the room that is from seed, blowing all the others away, very nice stocky plant

^bay 11, probably the least chunky plant in the room so far, hoping it puts on some girth at some point....

^^^ a "pink" pheno of my flo x grimm cross (i used to call it "strawberry ice cream" but now it's going by "fruity flo", people I gave it out to named it that for being MORE fruity than the flo, to be fair it's lower yeilding and takes longer to finish, also has a more sativa style buzz than the flo)

 

[Avinash.miles]

^^^ buddah's sister in the bucket system, kicking ass and smelling awesome... maybe a new fav cut, im loving it so far, hope it finishes in the 10 weeks or less I've planned for it.

^^ nearly all the plant from seed show here

^^^ canopy of the from seed table

^^ flo table

 

[Avinash.miles]

Seeds coming up!!

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

GL with the new genetics Avi. Blessings and good vibes.

Hope dude didnt give you some bagseed Deathstar.
Did he tell you where they came from?