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140 gallon RDWC
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thelaughingman
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is the ph steady?
Have not adjust pH for over 4 days and it finally went up to 6.0 from 5.9.....I think it is pretty damn steady now
Is it me, or does growing hydoponically give ya anxiety? haha...I feel like I constantly got to be checking and the girls...like something could go wrong so quick. I have a hunting trip next week and Ill be gone for probably 5 days. Thats gonna some shit right there.....
I guess Im just an FNG in this hydro world still. Gotta get my feet wet...
Here is the next set in veg scheduled to go in bloom the 24th this month. I dont know if they will be where I want them in size. I want at least 16" plants. Well see I guess.
I guess Im just an FNG in this hydro world still. Gotta get my feet wet...
Here is the next set in veg scheduled to go in bloom the 24th this month. I dont know if they will be where I want them in size. I want at least 16" plants. Well see I guess.
Yup, anxiety all the time with RDWC and Aero. But the yields are crazy!!! I flipped these into flower at 16":Is it me, or does growing hydoponically give ya anxiety? haha...I feel like I constantly got to be checking and the girls...like something could go wrong so quick. I have a hunting trip next week and Ill be gone for probably 5 days. Thats gonna some shit right there.....
I guess Im just an FNG in this hydro world still. Gotta get my feet wet...
Here is the next set in veg scheduled to go in bloom the 24th this month. I dont know if they will be where I want them in size. I want at least 16" plants. Well see I guess.
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Snype, you kill it everytime. You know your write ups are what gave me inspiration to switch from soil after l4+ years of straight easy pezzy set it and forget it organics.
16" does seem like the golden number for flippin'em. What type of growth rates do you see during veg? My vegin girls seem kinda slow but then again, I could be being to critical.
I know I want to drop the rockwool, I hate how soaking wet it stays. Gonna use lava rocks with the next up and coming girls.
16" does seem like the golden number for flippin'em. What type of growth rates do you see during veg? My vegin girls seem kinda slow but then again, I could be being to critical.
I know I want to drop the rockwool, I hate how soaking wet it stays. Gonna use lava rocks with the next up and coming girls.
From rooted clone I place 15 of them into a 2x4' E&F tray. They Veg on that tray under a Pioneer VI (330 watts) for 12 days. On day 4 they get topped and on day 6 they or 7 they get topped again. On day 10 they get SuperCropped. On day 11 or day 12 they go into what I call VEG-B in RDWC and every 10 plants get 1200-2,000 watts for up to 10 days max. After that every 10 plants now go to flower under 2,000 Watts. After the VEG-A and VEG-B the plants are 16" bushes. My old method these plants would finish at 55" from 16" but I'm trying to see if I can keep them smaller by gently breaking and bending them. We will see how that goes. Would love to see if I can keep these around 36" when they finish and still get 4 pounds for every 2,000 watts.
That is for sure part of my problem. I can not really up the juice anymore then I am now. I wish I could have at least 1k for veg but that is not the case. I am stuck trying to pinch electricity usage to stay out of the lime light.
I dont even have 2k total for my flower room, I gots 1600w.
All'n all with both veg,bloom, all the fans, pumps, and whatever, I believe I am around or a little under 2050w total.
I would probably have a heart attack if I hit 3lbs
Hey and I forgot to ask you, how many plants do you flower at a time? You said every ten gets a dedicated 2kw, what do the remainder 5 get since you start with 15?
And I found out I was feeding to much. After reading so many threads on RDWC and doing online search I decided to cut my EC down.
I thought my girls were veggin' kinda slow, and then the pH dropped .1. Not much I know but enough to cut the EC, so I dropped down to 1.0ec/500ppm and the plants have considerable grown more.
I gotta remember less is more with RDWC. I dropped my flowering girls down to 1.3ec/650ppm because I thought the roots were looking a little pinkish after a nutrient change that I had'em at 1.8ec/900ppm.
Peeps dont lie about the quickness of hydro. Over night the roots are purely white again spidering out.
So basically I wont ever exceed 1.3-1.4ec unless the plants tell me other wise.
Im really starting to like this hydro business. I CAN NOT WAIT TO HAVE SOME VERTICAL TREES!!
I think I finally have it figured out and dialed in. After my first hydro harvest im going to invest in a co2 controller. I have a liquid cooled propane generator but no controller. Winter is the only time I can really run co2 because I can seal up the room. That shit aint possible in the summer, I gotta vent the shit outta of my flower room.
The remaining 5 plants get fed to the cows. It is always best to take more plants than you will need so you can choose the best ones.
That's good that you lowered the EC but for the future:
1 EC = 500 TDS = 700 PPM (confusing huh?)
Some companies call TDS PPM which gets even more confusing. As far as EC goes, it will also depend on how much light you are using as well as CO2. I never have to exceed 2 EC with 1000 watters and CO2 on heavy feeders. That means other people should use less EC if they don't have 1000 watters.
Just jumpin in here because rdwc is my method as well.
TDS meters are based on two conversion methods. .500 or .700
I did the math on your numbers and your meter is .500 conversion.
As such, I would limit ppm to 900 or lower or 1.95 e.c. or lower as a general rule. But that's also at crazy growth period when they are nice a mature. At least that's what I do and have learned my plants like. In earlier stages, 1.1-1.5 e.c. seems pretty nice for my Kosher Kush girls.
I look forward to following along. Hope I didnt butt in too much.
TDS meters are based on two conversion methods. .500 or .700
I did the math on your numbers and your meter is .500 conversion.
As such, I would limit ppm to 900 or lower or 1.95 e.c. or lower as a general rule. But that's also at crazy growth period when they are nice a mature. At least that's what I do and have learned my plants like. In earlier stages, 1.1-1.5 e.c. seems pretty nice for my Kosher Kush girls.
I look forward to following along. Hope I didnt butt in too much.
Thanks for all the love people! You rock.
Im not going to lie, this PPM/EC thing is so whack!
My meter gives me whatever reading I want. I can choose EC or PPM and a handful of other readings.
Even if you have a meter the is 500 or 700 conversion, once you flip over to ppm doesnt the conversion mean nothing?
That is what gets me.....I know for EC there is a conversion but its basically dividing the PPM by either 500 or 700, right?
I just leave my meter in PPM mode....EC is cool and all but it only reads to the tenths
like I said, it is whack....to me.....but I got it figured out...at least for my girls. Cheers
Im not going to lie, this PPM/EC thing is so whack!
My meter gives me whatever reading I want. I can choose EC or PPM and a handful of other readings.
Even if you have a meter the is 500 or 700 conversion, once you flip over to ppm doesnt the conversion mean nothing?
That is what gets me.....I know for EC there is a conversion but its basically dividing the PPM by either 500 or 700, right?
I just leave my meter in PPM mode....EC is cool and all but it only reads to the tenths
like I said, it is whack....to me.....but I got it figured out...at least for my girls. Cheers
This may help you understand why it makes no sense:
What is the difference between ppm and EC?
https://www.icmag.com/modules/Tutorials/FertandFeeding/741.htm
"All ppm pens actually measure the value based on EC and then convert the EC value to display the ppm value, having different conversion factors between differing manufacturers is why we have this problem communicating nutrient measurments between one another.
EC is measured in millisiemens per centimeter (ms/cm) or microsiemens per centimeter (us/cm).
One millisiemen = 1000 microsiemens.
EC and CF (Conductivity Factor) are easily converted between each other.
1 ms/cm = 10 CF
"The communication problem"...
So again, the problem is that different ppm pen manufacturers use different conversion factors to calculate the ppm they display. All ppm (TDS, Total Dissolved Solids) pens actually measure in EC or CF and run a conversion program to display the reading in ppm's.
There are three conversion factors which various manufacturers use for displaying ppm's...
USA 1 ms/cm (EC 1.0 or CF 10) = 500 ppm
European 1 ms/cm (EC 1.0 or CF 10) = 640 ppm
Australian 1 ms/cm (EC 1.0 or CF 10) = 700 ppm
For example,
Hanna, Milwaukee 1 ms/cm (EC 1.0 or CF 10) = 500 ppm
Eutech 1 ms/cm (EC 1.0 or CF 10) = 640 ppm
Truncheon 1 ms/cm (EC 1.0 or CF 10) = 700 ppm"
Here are some new fresh clones in the lava rock Ill be converting over too if it proves worthy.
Critical seni star:
Critical seni star:
Here is some J. Flash with the fans removed...still need trimming.
One of my favorite strains right therrrre ^
One of my favorite strains right therrrre ^
That finally clears it up. I thought PPM was the same across the board which is why I didnt understand why people used EC if there was a conversion involved. ...I gotta spread the rep before I can tag ya again.....Thanks again SNYPE!
Something important to keep in mind along with above is that well over 90% of the growers/forum goers will speak in PPM without the knowledge of the e.c. or conversion factor of their meter.
This means that when 1 grower says 1200 ppm is perfect and where you should be, he's probably actually talking 1.71 e.c. because he has a 700 meter. But if you ran at 1200 ppm you'd be at 2.4 e.c. and burn the shit out of your girls.
1200 ppm is perfect for him but he's clueless about the conversion factor. Hell they may even argue about it with all their worldly knowledge. Yet because they don't know about conversion factors, or their true e.c. they instead perpetuate some amount of ignorance.
Not sure if above came out the way I wanted, but hopefully you get the point.
When I speak of ppm, I always include the e.c. and conversion factor of my meter so hopefully someone less informed learns about it. I learned about these conversion factors right here on this sight thanks to Ultra current. And this site is where I'm least involved in this thing of ours.
I believe you learned that from "Ultra Current", which is actually me. Unless there's really an Undercurrent here.
