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Unclefishstick's Guide to Home Bicycle Repair

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silver hawaiian

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So i'm fining out brutha ..... so i'm finding out !!! :wallbash:

3rd ..... i've got 2 domes & have tried them ..... they just don't work for me for some stupid assed reason !!! they're always dry by the next morning . i've tried the vents open , closed , partially open .... & i always come in in the morning to A dry dome & wilted clones .... or its saturated & the stems rot ..... i hate them friggin domes !!! :biggrin:


dans

Have you tried sort of "priming" the dome before you put it on? I always give a few good spritzes right onto the inside of the dome itself before I set it atop the tray

Cloning w the dome, my rule of thumb is to keep the vents fully closed for the first 3-4 days, then slowly open the vents/remove the dome fully for a few minutes at a time, in increasing frequencies/durations per day, with the goal to have the dome off/cuts exposed to worldly air by 7-10 days .. ?

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dans

Have you tried sort of "priming" the dome before you put it on? I always give a few good spritzes right onto the inside of the dome itself before I set it atop the tray

Cloning w the dome, my rule of thumb is to keep the vents fully closed for the first 3-4 days, then slowly open the vents/remove the dome fully for a few minutes at a time, in increasing frequencies/durations per day, with the goal to have the dome off/cuts exposed to worldly air by 7-10 days .. ?
Yup & .... did it exactly that way ........ could never get the moisture right ... was either to dry .... even spraying 3x a day ... or it was saturated & the stems rotted ..... :dunno:


up untill this summer when it was so hot that my AC was working over time to keep the attic cool .... it acted more like a dehuey & was suckin the moisture out of the air ..... my method of cloning was stick fresh cuts into cups of straight coco .... & keep them moist ... no drying out & not saturated & just leave them be ..... i had 100% for well over a year ..... untill this summer & everything went to hell !!! & even now with no AC going ..... i can't get the cups to work like they used to. i will try spraying them with plain water which i've never done before ... hopefully that works .

this attic environment has been a real test of my patients & my growing capabilities i'll tell ya !!!! can't wait to get the fuk outa here !!!

I wish i could set up downstairs in a bedroom or something . we have hot water radiators for heat .... its perfect down there for vegging & cloning & with a good ventilation system .... the flowering would be better too :wallbash:
 
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3rd .... while i've got ya here .....what EC are you feeding small veg . my seedlings look hungry at 500tds 1.0 EC ..... kind of afraid to push them much more .... but it seems they're askin for it :)

they get 2 ml of A & B , 5ml of rhizo , 4 ml of MagiCal & 3ml of protekt ... it comes out to 480 to 500 tds & i'm betting more than half the EC is calmag .... should i bump the A & B to 4ml ???
& sense i unhooked the DI filters my RO is at 70tds & the plants seem to like it more than the 0 water . less of a Mag def for sure .

Everything in my veg room from rooted clones to pre-flower big girls get the same feed at 1.0-1.1.
Per gallon-
.5 ml's Protekt
4 ml's CalMag
5-6 ml's A&B
5 ml's Cannazyme.
Sometimes 5 ml's of Boost but that doesn't register on E.C.

This, with my RO water gets me to 5.5 5.6 ph every time which is where I leave it.

As you can see on the SPG I posted on the page before, she would like more N but other than that they all are just fine at 1.0.

Once they hit flower they do just fine. I don't really change anything in flower except maybe go up to 6-7 ml's A&B.
 

Seaf0ur

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Not sure exactly what you mean - do you mean rig a sort of auto topoff for a drug store humidifier? I've heard from some folks who've tried, only to render the humidifier useless. :dunno:

I'd like to hear more about what you're imagining here..? But it's funny you mention that - when I had this setup, I had my blumats feeding out of the top pan where the fogger sat. :)

Yes... I do mean that... but my unit is like this... it feeds from the bottom.... the other kind that wick the upwards have a "fill line" that submerges the motor..... with this kind however, an additional reservoir would be much easier I'd tend to think....

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silver hawaiian

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Hmm. Funny you mention that, because I've imagined the same thing before.. Unfortunately, I'm not terribly mechanically inclined, so I figured it'd be a losing proposition -- Me with no patience left at the end of the project.. ..and a busted humidifier. :)
 

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the biger they get the closer to 500 I use. Going to get a bag of COCO for 1 of the Burkles. I will use the same ppm but add calmag and change the ph to 5.6..

I got a 50p Dehuy that I have never used uet. i guess if I ever need one I have it. I have to much extra gear I might never use.. You know the saying better have it and not need it then need it and not have it.


Dan you have a humidity meter? what is the ave humidity with lights on?? off it will be higher..
 

dansbuds

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veg lights are on 24/7 & the RH in there is 40% ... in flower lights off gets to about 50% lights on it drops to 35 to 40 %
 

dansbuds

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Everything in my veg room from rooted clones to pre-flower big girls get the same feed at 1.0-1.1.
Per gallon-
.5 ml's Protekt
4 ml's CalMag
5-6 ml's A&B
5 ml's Cannazyme.
Sometimes 5 ml's of Boost but that doesn't register on E.C.

This, with my RO water gets me to 5.5 5.6 ph every time which is where I leave it.

As you can see on the SPG I posted on the page before, she would like more N but other than that they all are just fine at 1.0.

Once they hit flower they do just fine. I don't really change anything in flower except maybe go up to 6-7 ml's A&B.
You use alot less protekt than i do which is why i have to PH down . & I don't start the zyme untill they're established in the 5" squares . another week or so before i start adding it to the seedlings .
but yeah i'm thinking most of my EC comes from the calmag & i need to up the A & B to at least 4ml . somethings just not right with my veg feeds ... & i'm trying to figure out what . once the plant gets a good root system going , they take right off & are healthy as can be . but in clones just starting & seedlings starting to feed .... i get defs & they seem kinda slow to grow .all my veg feeds are at 5.7 PH cuz i mix & feed , in flower i'll mix the rez to 5.5 or 5.6 & let it go from there .... by the time i need to refill the rez its at 6.0 to 6.1 depending on how many days it sat .

Man i wish the Veg & bloom nutes hadn't changed their formula !!!! that shit was so simple & produced some of the best buds i ever grew !!!
 

Hammerhead

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I dont see any issue with RH. I have never used a dome or any kind of Humidity boost for any seedlings or cuts. It's all done in open air. With 40% you shouldnt be having humidity problems..
 

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Dan ya may have to do like I do with clones. I can't get to the grow everyday so I piss darlin off and bring the cuts home and put them in my closet with a 13 watt cfl. I know I shouldn't bring anything to my house but that is the only sure fire way for me to get roots or maybe I get off on pushing my limits:peek:
 

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Dan ya may have to do like I do with clones. I can't get to the grow everyday so I piss darlin off and bring the cuts home and put them in my closet with a 13 watt cfl. I know I shouldn't bring anything to my house but that is the only sure fire way for me to get roots or maybe I get off on pushing my limits
I can't bring them into the main part of the house & i tried the basement .... but thats a PIA !!! so i'm kinda stuck up here with them & just gotta figure out whats going on . i think its the RH ... others say it fine & a dome would work if they need more . not for me it don't !!!
i'm not going crazy & tryin all the other 1000 ways of cloning .... i'll get my 3 basic ways of doing it to work one way or the other .
yeah i know ..... stubborn old prick !!! :biggrin:



Yeah if I use anymore protekt then I do need to use down. I only use the protekt because if I don't I would need ph up.
I kinda figured thats what you were doing with such a low dose . i'm using more this time cuz i ran out of DE & its not easy to find around here this time of year .... all the garden centers have Xmas stuff out .
 

thewhitelotus

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Evening everyone! Got the lights switched last night, reconfigured the dripper timer, and lookin forward to the show! Heres another shot of how bushy these things are. Ya think i should take off the bottom node or two?

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silver hawaiian

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For me, domes are only for the rooters or cubes. If I'm in the bucket/sprayer gimmick, no dome.

Dome, no dome.

something something something Mr. Roboto.
 

dansbuds

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domo .... domo ori gotto . domo :biggrin:


just mixed up 10 gallons of veg juice . dropped the calmag & protekt down to 2ml & upped the A&B to 4 ml .... came out to 570tds ..... so i'm still in a good EC range just less calmag . the only reason i ever upped it was cuz of the Mag def on the GG4 .
so i'll see if that helps ..... :dunno:
 

dansbuds

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Evening everyone! Got the lights switched last night, reconfigured the dripper timer, and lookin forward to the show! Heres another shot of how bushy these things are. Ya think i should take off the bottom node or two?

Yeah i'd get rid of some of it now .... but i'd wait till the stretch is over to strip the lowers . anything under the net should be gone by the start of buset .... or very soon after .

My 2 pennys worth .....
 

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yeah i took a bunch of leaves and small shoots before i left to Vegas and when i got back Holy Shit did they bush out. i took some a couple large fans off each to allow for more airflow to each of them. Planning on taking the lowers and slowly some fans around week 3 of flowering so i think were about on the same page Dans in when to take em
 

silver hawaiian

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Yeah i'd get rid of some of it now .... but i'd wait till the stretch is over to strip the lowers . anything under the net should be gone by the start of buset .... or very soon after .

My 2 pennys worth .....

What's your MO as for the when & how much leg to shave?

On this last round I just flipped, I'm wondering how the screen placement's gonna shake out. I put it a little higher this time, since these gals will no doubt stretch into it.

But, I'm thinking I'm going to leave a few inches below the screen itself:

The plan to leave a few inches comes in part from the fact that the screen is as much to support the stalks as it is to aid in training/directing traffic. I was initially going to do two screens -- the lower for the typical canopy/space management, and the upper for support for the leaners.

:dunno: Play-it-by-ear city over here. :)
 
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