jahrastafareye
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I think the zip tie idea is lame. whats to stop one little panda from cutting off another little pandas zip tie , and replacing with his own? also, I doubt they would allow you to do such a thing on someone else's property?
Marijuana, in my opinion will not become legal as long as those against legalization i.e. big Pharma want no medicine competition. The Police will fight giving up the monies from confiscation of assets. Private prisons need to be full all the time, or they make no profits. The DEA and the rest of them would have to work harder to catch the real criminals. Anyway the article hits it on the head, taxes may be the way, given the state of todays economy. Big the big anti MJ players are going to fight tooth nail and more importantly their checkbooks. They antis give millions to our "elected" officials, they get the best service money can by. Until MJ advocates can pay the congress and senate as much as the anti pot people then perhaps things will change. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY. Follow the money you'll see who is against legal ization... my 2 cents
after re reading my post and pondering it for a little bit...
I'm really curious as to why there isn't a HUGE push for rescheduling rather than all of these initiatives to 'legalize'.
You absolutely will not get a schedule 1 drug 'legalized'.
Cannabis absolutely does not belong in schedule 1, I think we can all agree on that. So why can we not convince politicians of the same?
Meth, PCP, Cocaine and Oxy's are all schedule 2, which is "safer" than sch 1. dafuq?
As much of a puppet as any politician is, if you cornered them in a debate about why its sch 1 vs sch 3 (at the highest); With solid factual information you could/should make anyone debating it look like a fool.
Opps I don't think I was clear.
$100 = 1 zip-tie = the ability to have that ziptie on any plants you want for the whole year. AKA 1 Plant spot you can reuse all year.
$5,000 = 50 plants (as many times as you want in one year) but you can't go over 50 at a time. It's essentially a plant spot you are paying for - and you don't have to buy a new ziptie after you harvest, you can use that same ziptie on multiple plants throughout the year, as long as you dont go over you limit. As soon as you harvest, you move the ziptie to a new plant you are going to veg or harvest and reuse it for the year.
Ya, if it was $100 per plant grown - that wouldn't be anywhere as good as this $100 for 1 plant reusable plant spot all year.
Another article is on www.alternet.org very informative article about the International Drug Treaties. It seems Bolivia pulled out of the treaty over indigenous peoples chewing coco leaves. That may open the door on other issues the treaties cove.
nVery informative article on how the treaties work, and how they effect the peplos of the world cause most all members of the U.N. are signers.
**** I didn't write this, it was an article I thought would be important to pass along:
I also think that the effectiveness of arguing for Cannabis legalization through taxation is a good case, and could really turn a lot of people around to voting YES who wouldn't have otherwise. It may be the only option when it's said and done to really get the support needed to make it pass, but this is just a reflection on how far we should compromise ourselves to achieve this, and how much of those Taxes would be used towards prosecuting cannabis related activity by the state/federal gov in possible disingenuous ways.
The Fallacy of the "Legalize and Tax Cannabis" initiatives: Insights from Jack Herer
If you think that we will ever get legal Cannabis, without tax, I'd love to try whatever you've been smoking.
We have legal home brewed beer in most US states. The same will be true of cannabis. Price will fall hugely, it won't be worth the cost to grow indoor, and if you do you are a hobby freak.
The cost of production is already close to the revenue from sales, consequently there are a lot of drop outs in the cannabis game.
If cannabis isn't going away, then neither is home growing. If home growing is around there will always be the best of the best completely out of the system. That shouldn't matter because the fuck tard regulators will tax 99% of production....
And the world spins.
I DID actually write it, and it was titled "The Fallacy of the "Legalize and Tax Cannabis" Initiatives"
Thanks for the "no credit" for being its author. It helped to force the shutdown of Overgrow The World, since I got no support...even though tens of thousands of people have read this by now.
Now there isn't a single site out there pushing for the REPEAL of prohibition. Not a goddamned one. They're all pushing EVERYTHING BUT, or they're all out there for PROFITS...no matter who suffers. For a plant.
I kinda got from your opinion that Govt has NO role in this economy and a govt job is a drain and unnecessary.
I do think that the govt is wasteful but needed to regulate industries driven by profit because we know self-governance never works.
banking & financial regulations are needed as well as environmental regulations and an emerging Cannabis industry needs regulations in place for those engaging in the capitalist market.
im not sure how moving Cannabis from a Schedule I to a Schedule II or lower controlled substance will not be a good thing.
please share your insight as to why it should be de-classified, if that is possible for a medicinal plant.
I kinda got from your opinion that Govt has NO role in this economy and a govt job is a drain and unnecessary.
I do think that the govt is wasteful but needed to regulate industries driven by profit because we know self-governance never works.
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Electropig,
I don't think govt needs to be in a home garden so long as that individual is not engaging in sales of medical cannabis b/c when profit is the motivating factor of a business then its just a matter of time before greed rules and mold or pest infected bud will get used or cross contamination of edibles causes an allergic reaction to a sick individual.
If your statement was correct, wouldn't we see lower quality cannabis in 2013 because it is being wholesaled at half the price of 2001?
Where are the contaminated edibles? Where are the poisoned consumers? Where is the government regulation?
You postulate that quality would be a problem in the free market, and I retort that quality will be a huge problem in a legal regulated market where Phillip Morris's shit is blessed by the FDA and home growers are demonized by false arguments such as the one you are advancing here.
I've been smoking for over 20 years and growing for more than 10. I can tell you from VAST experience the best cannabis in the world is being produced now, and I have never seen a dispensary with better quality than that grown by individuals here in ICmag.
I don't want the government any where near your home EVEN IF you sell what you produce on your own land.